Anyone ever done Stronglifts 5X5

moosegt35
moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
edited January 14 in Fitness and Exercise
I have been reading some info on this program and have thought about trying it for a few months to see if it helps with building strength the way it claims to. Anyone have any experience with it?
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  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    It's a great program. Quick, simple, easy. I've seen good strength gains over the past 3 months that I've been doing it. I've added 25lbs to my squat and 55lbs to my deadlift.
  • Slamdunkpro
    Slamdunkpro Posts: 88 Member
    I have been reading some info on this program and have thought about trying it for a few months to see if it helps with building strength the way it claims to. Anyone have any experience with it?

    I'm happy with it. Join the Stronglifts 5x5 group and jump in.
  • I have used it. I did it after my injury rehab had finished and got some decent strength gains, but I began to stall before the programme ended.

    I'm now on week 3/12 of Madcow, which uses ramped up sets. Just aiming to get my strength up. Then I'll have a cycle of maintaining weight/doing exercises that are different to squat/bench/ohp/deadlift/row. Then I'll probably do Madcow again.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    I have used it. I did it after my injury rehab had finished and got some decent strength gains, but I began to stall before the programme ended.

    I'm now on week 3/12 of Madcow, which uses ramped up sets. Just aiming to get my strength up. Then I'll have a cycle of maintaining weight/doing exercises that are different to squat/bench/ohp/deadlift/row. Then I'll probably do Madcow again.
    Before it ended? How long does the program go?
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    I was supposed to start today but I am sick and can't. Heres couple of groups that might be able to help

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women

    ^Even though its for women, its an awesome group for info about stronglifts

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/10067-eat-train-progress-

    ^This is just an awesome group for nutrition and exercise. Period!
  • LishieFruit89
    LishieFruit89 Posts: 1,956 Member
    I have used it. I did it after my injury rehab had finished and got some decent strength gains, but I began to stall before the programme ended.

    I'm now on week 3/12 of Madcow, which uses ramped up sets. Just aiming to get my strength up. Then I'll have a cycle of maintaining weight/doing exercises that are different to squat/bench/ohp/deadlift/row. Then I'll probably do Madcow again.
    Before it ended? How long does the program go?

    stronglifts.com
  • It's a 12 week programme. I found doing 5 sets x 5 reps at the working weight difficult. I was OK for 2-3 sets, but after that I either suffered failure of form, or total failure.
  • Pixi_Rex
    Pixi_Rex Posts: 1,676 Member
    No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.

    Ahahah this is why I love you.

    OP with millions of people on the earth and the thousands that are on this site I am sure you are not the only one who has ever done it.
  • juliemouse83
    juliemouse83 Posts: 6,663 Member
    I was under the impression that it is longer than a 12 week program...that one should try it for 12 weeks. Starting with an empty Oly bar, you are adding five pounds per workout, so it should go longer than 12 weeks, unless I simply misunderstood.

    I've just started this program, and am doing my first "B" workout this afternoon. I can't WAIT!
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    I was under the impression that it is longer than a 12 week program...that one should try it for 12 weeks. Starting with an empty Oly bar, you are adding five pounds per workout, so it should go longer than 12 weeks, unless I simply misunderstood.

    I've just started this program, and am doing my first "B" workout this afternoon. I can't WAIT!

    I was wondering about what to start with also. I have already been lifting for over a year so starting with an empty bar seems like a huge waste of time for me as it would be well over 12 weeks just to get to the weight I already do 5X5 with on bench and several weeks for squats and rows also.
  • juliemouse83
    juliemouse83 Posts: 6,663 Member
    I was under the impression that it is longer than a 12 week program...that one should try it for 12 weeks. Starting with an empty Oly bar, you are adding five pounds per workout, so it should go longer than 12 weeks, unless I simply misunderstood.

    I've just started this program, and am doing my first "B" workout this afternoon. I can't WAIT!

    I was wondering about what to start with also. I have already been lifting for over a year so starting with an empty bar seems like a huge waste of time for me as it would be well over 12 weeks just to get to the weight I already do 5X5 with on bench and several weeks for squats and rows also.

    ^^^ This is why I would recommend that you go to stronglifts.com, and download the information on it, before you start it. He puts a lot of emphasis on form, over starting too heavy.
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    PS. People might enjoy knowing that the Admins on this site ENCOURAGE repeated questions since a lot of times, new and accurate info is shared.

    So don't get butthurt because somebody reposts.
  • LishieFruit89
    LishieFruit89 Posts: 1,956 Member
    I was under the impression that it is longer than a 12 week program...that one should try it for 12 weeks. Starting with an empty Oly bar, you are adding five pounds per workout, so it should go longer than 12 weeks, unless I simply misunderstood.

    I've just started this program, and am doing my first "B" workout this afternoon. I can't WAIT!

    I was wondering about what to start with also. I have already been lifting for over a year so starting with an empty bar seems like a huge waste of time for me as it would be well over 12 weeks just to get to the weight I already do 5X5 with on bench and several weeks for squats and rows also.

    This is type of derailment I was implying to - though still related, not exactly what you were looking for.

    If you go to the stronglifts website (www.stronglifts.com), it doesn't state to start with an empty bar actually.
    You can, especially if you have no experience, and you can use the weighted bars if you can't lift the oly bar (for things like OHP & row)
    It does suggest starting with 65lbs as the working weight for the barbell rows.

    OP, if you're already say at 135lbs 5x5 for squat, deload a bit for your warm up and then use that as your working weight for the first session. Then add 5lbs.

    I personally started the program with a smith machine and when I switched gyms and got access to a squat rack, I deloaded to the oly bar, and the squats is the only lift I add 5lbs on for every session.

    I suggest reading through the SL website and going through the groups since the groups can sometimes give a better explanation than the original source (like the NROLFW group explained the program better than the book)

    edit: fixed a spelling error
  • juliemouse83
    juliemouse83 Posts: 6,663 Member
    I was under the impression that it is longer than a 12 week program...that one should try it for 12 weeks. Starting with an empty Oly bar, you are adding five pounds per workout, so it should go longer than 12 weeks, unless I simply misunderstood.

    I've just started this program, and am doing my first "B" workout this afternoon. I can't WAIT!

    I was wondering about what to start with also. I have already been lifting for over a year so starting with an empty bar seems like a huge waste of time for me as it would be well over 12 weeks just to get to the weight I already do 5X5 with on bench and several weeks for squats and rows also.

    This is type of derailment I was implying to - though still related, not exactly what you were looking for.

    If you go to the stronglifts website (www.stronglifts.com), it doesn't state to start with an empty bar actually.
    You can, especially if you have no experience, and you can use the weighted bars if you can't lift the oly bar (for things like OHP & row)
    It does suggest starting with 65lbs as the working weight for the barbell rows.

    OP, if you're already say at 135lbs 5x5 for squat, deload a bit for your warm up and then use that as your working weight for the first session. Then add 5lbs.

    I personally started the program with a smith machine and when I swtiched gyms and got access to a squat rack, I deloaded to the oly bar, and the squats is the only lift I add 5lbs on for every session.

    I suggest reading through the SL website and going through the groups since the groups can sometimes give a better explanation than the original source (like the NROLFW group explained the program better than the book)

    ^^^ This...^^^

    Thanks...am at the day job and don't post as thoroughly as I should with distractions...hit "post" when the phone rang. (I am amazed that I can even walk and chew gum at the same time.) :glasses:
  • LishieFruit89
    LishieFruit89 Posts: 1,956 Member
    Also, you can join the stronglifts mailing list and he (Medhi) answers questions that way.

    They have form videos on youtube for the entire workout A & B but you can also find form videos for specific moves (like the row - which I so need to look up)

    As juliemouse said in a previous post, focus on form over the heavy weight. At least for the first session or two of work out A & B. Do less than you think you can and then just up for the next session or the next rep if it's really too easy
  • mryak750
    mryak750 Posts: 198 Member
    I did it for 6 weeks....It was good but i need to lose fat and stronglifts wasnt going to help..I did gain strength...ended benching and squating 195, military press 110 and deadlifting 255...I must say the squats get tough..doding them everyother day for 5 sets i think is too much....look into starging strength...its the same but 3x5 instead....Stronglifts is said to be a starting strength ripoff...If i did my research first i would have done 3x5...good luck
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    I did it for 6 weeks....It was good but i need to lose fat and stronglifts wasnt going to help..I did gain strength...ended benching and squating 195, military press 110 and deadlifting 255...I must say the squats get tough..doding them everyother day for 5 sets i think is too much....look into starging strength...its the same but 3x5 instead....Stronglifts is said to be a starting strength ripoff...If i did my research first i would have done 3x5...good luck

    If you gain strength well on this program that is exactly what I want since gaining muscle is the easiest way to lose fat. I have lost a lot of fat and gotten stronger I just am not getting much stronger now doing my usual routine. Think I'm gonna try this for 12 weeks just to see how I like it. It says to go to 3X5 if you plateua on squats or any other lift really.
  • mryak750
    mryak750 Posts: 198 Member
    I was doing the program and adding 20 min of light cardio or HIIT after each workout...I lost 5 Ibs
  • No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.
    LOLZ THIS IS WHY I L:OVE U LOLZ MERRY ME U GO GURRRRL THEY CANT HANDEL UR SNARK
    Can you type that in English?
    My comedic prowess is wasted here.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    I was doing the program and adding 20 min of light cardio or HIIT after each workout...I lost 5 Ibs

    That's a pretty good loss for 6 weeks. Why didn't you stay with it? My cardio comes from basketball so I will only be doing the lifting.
  • mryak750
    mryak750 Posts: 198 Member
    I want to lose fat...I just wanted to build some strength first....I'm still lifting just going to try a different program..
  • Mr_Excitement
    Mr_Excitement Posts: 833 Member
    No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.

    I've never understood this response. Does the person posting it somehow think that *discussion* forums are designed to be used like encyclopedias, where you go to look up indexed information?

    Are they under the impression that electrons are in short supply?

    I don't get it.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.

    I've never understood this response. Does the person posting it somehow think that *discussion* forums are designed to be used like encyclopedias, where you go to look up indexed information?

    Are they under the impression that electrons are in short supply?

    I don't get it.

    It's just stupid people. Gotta look past them.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.

    I've never understood this response. Does the person posting it somehow think that *discussion* forums are designed to be used like encyclopedias, where you go to look up indexed information?

    Are they under the impression that electrons are in short supply?

    I don't get it.
    If you search and then post a response in another thread someone will whine about thread necromancy.:laugh:
    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it.
    There's no such number as a bajillion.:tongue:

    Anyway I just finished "week 8" but I did not start at the weights he suggested for everything. So I am doing the SL progression and technique. I've definitely had strength gains in the overhead press. Back when I was at 50 lbs ohp, I tried to do 65 when I had it on the bar and couldn't even get it off my shoulders let alone do a rep... the bar just sat there and laughed at me. Yesterday I just barely finished my 5x5 @ 90 lbs, after failing once each on 85 and 90 lbs before progressing. All the other lifts are just starting to get challenging for me so I can't say for certain that I've gained strength on them, yet, but all indications are that it is effective.

    That is, the required exertion is increasing, but not as quickly as the weights are. I tried 135 on bench press at the time when I was doing 90 for my workout, and I was able to do 1 rep at 135. By the time I hit 135 for my workout weight I'm fairly certain I will be able to do more than 1 rep, and probably will hit all 5 reps.

    If you are already good on form and know what you're doing for a specific lift, then just start on a weight that you can do 5X5 and progress as intended. I did the opposite and started lower to be sure I learned good form before applying it to a heavy bar.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    No. No one in the history of MFP has ever done it. You're the first.

    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it. There's some groups as well.

    I've never understood this response. Does the person posting it somehow think that *discussion* forums are designed to be used like encyclopedias, where you go to look up indexed information?

    Are they under the impression that electrons are in short supply?

    I don't get it.
    If you search and then post a response in another thread someone will whine about thread necromancy.:laugh:
    If you use the handy search function, you'll find eleventy-bajillion threads on it.
    There's no such number as a bajillion.:tongue:

    Anyway I just finished "week 8" but I did not start at the weights he suggested for everything. So I am doing the SL progression and technique. I've definitely had strength gains in the overhead press. Back when I was at 50 lbs ohp, I tried to do 65 when I had it on the bar and couldn't even get it off my shoulders let alone do a rep... the bar just sat there and laughed at me. Yesterday I just barely finished my 5x5 @ 90 lbs, after failing once each on 85 and 90 lbs before progressing. All the other lifts are just starting to get challenging for me so I can't say for certain that I've gained strength on them, yet, but all indications are that it is effective.

    That is, the required exertion is increasing, but not as quickly as the weights are. I tried 135 on bench press at the time when I was doing 90 for my workout, and I was able to do 1 rep at 135. By the time I hit 135 for my workout weight I'm fairly certain I will be able to do more than 1 rep, and probably will hit all 5 reps.

    If you are already good on form and know what you're doing for a specific lift, then just start on a weight that you can do 5X5 and progress as intended. I did the opposite and started lower to be sure I learned good form before applying it to a heavy bar.

    Yea, I looked into that and think I will start a little higher than he suggests on bench. I already do 5X5 and start with 135 and add 5 pounds each set so I think I have it set to start at 115. If I started with an empty bar or much less than 115 it would take months to get to where I am currently at.
  • naculp
    naculp Posts: 225 Member
    I've been in lifting for a long time, but had recently taken a ~2 year hiatus to focus on running. Once I started back into lifting, I used SL 5x5 to guide me in the weight room. I'd like to think I'm decently strong, so I chose some higher numbers for my first week.

    Squat: 275
    Dead: 275
    Bench: 155
    Row: 135
    OHP: 55 (I hadn't ever really done these before)

    Things have progressed greatly, and now I'm to the point where I'm about to get back into running and just lift for maintenance. My last working sets were after about 10 weeks. I deloaded a couple times if I took too long off from the gym (holidays).

    Squat: 405
    Dead: 385
    Bench: 230
    Row: 155 (Started out doing bent-over rows, then switched to Pendlay)
    OHP: 140
  • gerard54
    gerard54 Posts: 1,107 Member
    It works, in 3 months Ive had a lot of strength gains.

    Bench 135 -315

    Squat 135 - 235 I don't squat much low back probs

    Row 105 - 190

    Overhead press 105 - 155

    Deadlift 135 - 405
  • I started a month ago, I love it, as far as the comment about fat loss, it is not designed to take fat off quickly, it will increase your metabolism as you increase strength. This is best because you replace fat and the space it once was in with muscle. You also make your body a higher calorie burning machine. If you also want fat loss quickly, add cardio, you should always do cardio as well because it helps with heart health.
    Also once a week when I do the bench presses, in between the warm up reps, I hold the back of the bench and do 2 sets of reverse crunches, after stronglifts when I go to the gym for the cardio I also do a set of the following (15 reps each)
    Decline crunch
    Decline sit up
    On the Back Extension machine, I do side crunches holding a weight
    and on the Back Extension I do the lower back, holding a weight
    My lower back needs some focus however the additional abs once a week helps out a bit more

    And the 12 weeks is essentiall the warm up period, it goes on and on for a long time, then there are additional programs after that
    You start light, and work your way up, even when starting with the bar, it starts to get heavy faster than you think
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    It works, in 3 months Ive had a lot of strength gains.

    Bench 135 -315

    Squat 135 - 235 I don't squat much low back probs

    Row 105 - 190

    Overhead press 105 - 155

    Deadlift 135 - 405

    Wow. That is some impressive gains. Any supplements during that time? I am eating a deficit so I am afraid I won't progress as much as you but I hope to.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    I started a month ago, I love it, as far as the comment about fat loss, it is not designed to take fat off quickly, it will increase your metabolism as you increase strength. This is best because you replace fat and the space it once was in with muscle. You also make your body a higher calorie burning machine. If you also want fat loss quickly, add cardio, you should always do cardio as well because it helps with heart health.
    Also once a week when I do the bench presses, in between the warm up reps, I hold the back of the bench and do 2 sets of reverse crunches, after stronglifts when I go to the gym for the cardio I also do a set of the following (15 reps each)
    Decline crunch
    Decline sit up
    On the Back Extension machine, I do side crunches holding a weight
    and on the Back Extension I do the lower back, holding a weight
    My lower back needs some focus however the additional abs once a week helps out a bit more

    And the 12 weeks is essentiall the warm up period, it goes on and on for a long time, then there are additional programs after that
    You start light, and work your way up, even when starting with the bar, it starts to get heavy faster than you think

    I play basketball twice a week so that is my cardio. I also do plan to throw some ab/core exercises in there especially in the beginning when everything is so easy. I started with the bar for squats ( I do front squats) and for OHP but started at 115 with bench as I can already do 150 5X5, 95 on deadlift and I think 50 on rows.
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