BInging problem!
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Below are some more books you may find useful. I have not read these but I have listened to some of Geneen Roth cds.
Brain Over Binge by Kathryn Hansen
Eat What You Love - Love what you Eat by Michelle May
Anatomy of a Food Addiction by Anne Katherine, M.A.
Codependent No More by Melody Beattie
Any book by Geneen Roth0 -
A very good start dear.I've recently started to journal and write down why I want/don't want to overeat/binge and how it makes me feel when I do. It sounds really lame, but it's helping me keep in control of my feelings around eating. I also stopped buying the things I kept making and eating too much of, which actually sounds easier than it is.
There are a lot of people who overeat because they were bored or were never educated on nutrition or calories in calories out. But for those of us who know better but suffer every day because of trama in our lives, need a little more than just waking up tomorrow with a more positive attitude.
I hope you can ignore the people who have been fortunate enough to never know what we're going through. Their ignorance must be bliss.0 -
I had exactly the same problem with you and it really didn't change completely until I began using MFP but it certainly improved once I began exercising.
I find exercising makes me feel less hungry throughout the day because my body craves water more, which sometimes is what you can mistake hunger for. And also you feel healthier and fitter once you get into a routine of exercise, so even if a chocolate bar is waved in front of you, you tend to feel sick at the idea of that much sugar rather than crave it.
But like I said, it didn't totally go away until I started using MFP because now I am so much more interested in the food I eat. I still snack but I tend to eat healthier options such as yoghurts rather than chocolate. I also found it helped once I stopped taking sugar in my coffee because now if I have too much sugar I feel sick whereas before I craved sugar because I was used to it in my diet.
My main tips for you would be to try to cut out as much sugar as possible in your normal eating habits as then when you have an overload of sugar in the form of ice cream, chocolate, etc. you wont need half as much to satisfy you OR it'll make you feel sick and put you off of it in the future.
Also, buy tasty fruits and put them out on the surface in your kitchen, that helps me when I feel like I want a snack because I grab 2 clementines now instead of rushing for the chocolate stash!
Also, to begin exercising if you aren't already because it really gives you a different out look on what you are putting into your body.
I know it's hard with temptations, I am a live in nanny so surrounded by junk food that the children eat but I do (99%) of the time manage to avoid it or have it moderately whilst incorporating it into my daily calorie allowance. This helps too because I realise a tiny cookie/piece of brownie has enough calories in it sometimes for me to have eaten a whole sandwich or 3-4 pieces of fruit. When you are faced with being hungry you tend to want quantity over quality!0 -
I love dark chocolate so I keep a stash of hersheys bliss dark chocolate pieces and will eat 1-3 pieces and that satisfies my desire without sabataging my diet.
I do this too, I keep it in my bedroom for when I feel the need to have a midnight snack and 3-4 squares of a dark chocolate bar is normally enough to satisfy me.
I am saving heaps of money in chocolate! Haha.0 -
I love dark chocolate so I keep a stash of hersheys bliss dark chocolate pieces and will eat 1-3 pieces and that satisfies my desire without sabataging my diet.
A little bit of dark chocolate can go a long way.. I like to incorporate cocoa nibs (plain or covered in dark chocolate) into my diet every now and then. Yum!0 -
Many years ago, when bingeing was a problem for me, I made a deal with myself. I would go to the store and select all the items for a binge. Then I would add up the cost and give it to a charity, leaving the items in the store. It was just a way to see how something I didn't need or really want at all (because once you're eating it, you feel like crap about it, so you don't really want it) could serve someone else.
It was just one thing along the way.0 -
I have a problem with binge eating too. What I did to slow/stop it was kept carrot and celery sticks in the fridge - nothing like the way you feel after eating half a pound of veggies to make you re-think it next time!0
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I have been a binge eater as well in the past, and I still struggle with it. Cakes and cookies and bread are my triggers. I do it far less often now, but it still happens occasionally. I DO have will power, or I wouldn't have lost 81 lbs without any drugs or appetite suppressants--through diet and exercise ONLY...BUT I still fail at times--almost always when I'm either very stressed/unhappy or very happy/relieved after a stressful/unpleasant occurrence is over.0
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I am also a binge eater!! I am trying to maintain my weight (harder than losing for me). When losing - I just said NO!! Now I can have something small every once in a while but... this sometimes turns into an all out food frenzy. I ate w/out thinking, feel full and keep eating. Like my body has been taken over. I know that if this happens, I get right back on track the next day. I feel like crap for a few days but... muddle through.
I saw this quoter which I like:
If you're heading somewhere in the car and wanted to get there by 5, but realized you were going to be a few minutes late, would you just give up and swerve into a bridge abutment?0 -
I second the Brain Over Binge recommendation, great book.0
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I fill up on fat and protein. I stay in ketosis because it cuts my appetite and cravings. I don't eat any of the food I binge on anymore (except very rarely a small package of cashews) and I don't eat my trigger foods either, like bread.
I exercise my self control by avoiding foods I know will make me hungry and cravy because I hate the annoyance of my brain going, 'gimme gimme gimme!' for days after I eat those foods.0 -
YESS!! This sounds so silly but you reminded me, it's only a few months and I just need to stay focused! I know I can do it, and I'm determined to not gain anything back after this.0
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Oh gosh I always feel nauseous after eating half a bag of carrots!! Haha0
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Below are some more books you may find useful. I have not read these but I have listened to some of Geneen Roth cds.
Brain Over Binge by Kathryn Hansen
Eat What You Love - Love what you Eat by Michelle May
Anatomy of a Food Addiction by Anne Katherine, M.A.
Codependent No More by Melody Beattie
Any book by Geneen Roth
great resources, thanks!0 -
I love dark chocolate so I keep a stash of hersheys bliss dark chocolate pieces and will eat 1-3 pieces and that satisfies my desire without sabataging my diet.
A little bit of dark chocolate can go a long way.. I like to incorporate cocoa nibs (plain or covered in dark chocolate) into my diet every now and then. Yum!
Today I made trail mix (sorta) with dried edamame, sunflower seeds, and chocolate covered raisins. I portioned them out into single serving baggies (which definitely helps keep me in control) so now I can have a little chocolate mixed with other goodies that are a bit healthier! I realized I just need to watch my portion sizes and stick to what the package says even if I want more.0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Willpower fades then what happens? People with binge eating problems need help. Would you tell an Aneorxic "go eat something" No you would not so why just tell a person saying they are having binge problems to get willpower (or strengthen their relationship with food. What the heck does that mean?) You just don't get it.
Trust me I want it badly. I have lost a lot of weight and have some to go. I know I need to face my problems with food.
My advice ask for help. There are many books on binge eating. Get therapy if you can afford it. Figure out why you have to eat so much food. Sometimes finding out why helps so much.
Also ignore people that do not understand a binge eating problem. They don't know what it is like. Take good care of yourself0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Willpower fades then what happens? People with binge eating problems need help. Would you tell an Aneorxic "go eat something" No you would not so why just tell a person saying they are having binge problems to get willpower (or strengthen their relationship with food. What the heck does that mean?) You just don't get it.
Trust me I want it badly. I have lost a lot of weight and have some to go. I know I need to face my problems with food.
My advice ask for help. There are many books on binge eating. Get therapy if you can afford it. Figure out why you have to eat so much food. Sometimes finding out why helps so much.
Also ignore people that do not understand a binge eating problem. They don't know what it is like. Take good care of yourself
Agree. Seem to be some ignorant people around who show a total lack of comprehension of genuine eating disorders, who obviously get their kicks out of making said people feel even more of a failure than they already do. Gets a bit tired, seeing the same old characters jumping in, on topics they know nothing about, doing more harm than good. You wouldn't tell an anorexic here to just go eat, or hopefully not, and it is just as stupid to tell people with genuine issues with binge eating, or bulimia, to use willpower.0 -
I would advise to stay away from foods that trigger your binges.
I have to do that on a daily basis.
My house is always full of cookies, chocolate, bread, and all kinds of other foods that trigger my binges.
When I look at those foods, I imagine a skull and 2 crossed bones symbol ( a sign for poison),
and my mind seem to respond to that and I stop myself from reaching for them.
Now, I am not 100% good at that. Occasionally I eat some of it, but limit myself to one piece, or one bite.
Where do I get the willpower for that?
I don't know...
Perhaps you have to reach a point where you get so sick of yourself and so mad at your eating habits that you just quit and
change. Something changes in our brains when we reach that point. :happy:0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Willpower fades then what happens? People with binge eating problems need help. Would you tell an Aneorxic "go eat something" No you would not so why just tell a person saying they are having binge problems to get willpower (or strengthen their relationship with food. What the heck does that mean?) You just don't get it.
Trust me I want it badly. I have lost a lot of weight and have some to go. I know I need to face my problems with food.
My advice ask for help. There are many books on binge eating. Get therapy if you can afford it. Figure out why you have to eat so much food. Sometimes finding out why helps so much.
Also ignore people that do not understand a binge eating problem. They don't know what it is like. Take good care of yourself
Agree. Seem to be some ignorant people around who show a total lack of comprehension of genuine eating disorders, who obviously get their kicks out of making said people feel even more of a failure than they already do. Gets a bit tired, seeing the same old characters jumping in, on topics they know nothing about, doing more harm than good. You wouldn't tell an anorexic here to just go eat, or hopefully not, and it is just as stupid to tell people with genuine issues with binge eating, or bulimia, to use willpower.
I still contend that all of the above can be beaten with strength of mind. Worked for me on all accounts. I do know, first hand, about all three disorders you've listed. The mind will conquer them all if you want it to. How do you think those books and therapy you recommend work? By strengthening your willpower and relationship with food, not by magic spell. Just because you're unable to accomplish these things don't go bashing people that have by pure strength of will. It all comes down to willpower.0 -
I found this group yesterday
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/12145-50-day-binge-free-challenge
It seems like a great way to hold yourself accountable, and long enough to maybe break some habits!
( I'm on day 2)0 -
http://www.firstourselves.org/why-willpower-and-dieting-dont-heal-overeating/
Good luck OP in getting over the binges
aah thanx for the link! nice article0 -
friend has a 50 day binge free challenge group here on mfp. I have one called step away from that binging that is a private group. here is what I did to keep me from binging
1. make my diary open to public
2. log everything I put in my mouth the good, the bad, the ugly
I found keeping mine private I would be more apt to binge because of the no one will ever see what I am eating so who cares attitude.0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Willpower fades then what happens? People with binge eating problems need help. Would you tell an Aneorxic "go eat something" No you would not so why just tell a person saying they are having binge problems to get willpower (or strengthen their relationship with food. What the heck does that mean?) You just don't get it.
Trust me I want it badly. I have lost a lot of weight and have some to go. I know I need to face my problems with food.
My advice ask for help. There are many books on binge eating. Get therapy if you can afford it. Figure out why you have to eat so much food. Sometimes finding out why helps so much.
Also ignore people that do not understand a binge eating problem. They don't know what it is like. Take good care of yourself
Agree. Seem to be some ignorant people around who show a total lack of comprehension of genuine eating disorders, who obviously get their kicks out of making said people feel even more of a failure than they already do. Gets a bit tired, seeing the same old characters jumping in, on topics they know nothing about, doing more harm than good. You wouldn't tell an anorexic here to just go eat, or hopefully not, and it is just as stupid to tell people with genuine issues with binge eating, or bulimia, to use willpower.
I still contend that all of the above can be beaten with strength of mind. Worked for me on all accounts. I do know, first hand, about all three disorders you've listed. The mind will conquer them all if you want it to. How do you think those books and therapy you recommend work? By strengthening your willpower and relationship with food, not by magic spell. Just because you're unable to accomplish these things don't go bashing people that have by pure strength of will. It all comes down to willpower.
Hey, everyone knows that willpower is the key to success in losing weight, getting fit, beating an eating disorder and many other things in life. Nobody is refuting or bashing that, and it is also impressive how motivated you are and doing so well, but some people have more slip ups than others, and hence the question for help. And everyone is helping by providing little steps to help distract from a binge or identifying the cause of a binge or learning to be less dependent on food etc. Willpower doesn't come easy for some people and one's environment is also a huge factor.
I don't know if you have been through an eating disorder but it is far more than just 'suck it up'. I have been anorexic, bulimic and battling with binge eating and over eating while trying not to fall back into anorexic behaviours too. It is not an easy battle and I know i will have to battle for life, and sometimes telling someone struggling to just suck it up is also implying that they do not have enough willpower and that can be discouraging and hence leading to giving up, more binging, self-reproach and a lot of negativity.
I understand that you're trying to make a point that ultimately it is down to the willpower, but I hope you recognize the negativity that comes with the 'suck it up' message.0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Willpower fades then what happens? People with binge eating problems need help. Would you tell an Aneorxic "go eat something" No you would not so why just tell a person saying they are having binge problems to get willpower (or strengthen their relationship with food. What the heck does that mean?) You just don't get it.
Trust me I want it badly. I have lost a lot of weight and have some to go. I know I need to face my problems with food.
My advice ask for help. There are many books on binge eating. Get therapy if you can afford it. Figure out why you have to eat so much food. Sometimes finding out why helps so much.
Also ignore people that do not understand a binge eating problem. They don't know what it is like. Take good care of yourself
Agree. Seem to be some ignorant people around who show a total lack of comprehension of genuine eating disorders, who obviously get their kicks out of making said people feel even more of a failure than they already do. Gets a bit tired, seeing the same old characters jumping in, on topics they know nothing about, doing more harm than good. You wouldn't tell an anorexic here to just go eat, or hopefully not, and it is just as stupid to tell people with genuine issues with binge eating, or bulimia, to use willpower.
I still contend that all of the above can be beaten with strength of mind. Worked for me on all accounts. I do know, first hand, about all three disorders you've listed. The mind will conquer them all if you want it to. How do you think those books and therapy you recommend work? By strengthening your willpower and relationship with food, not by magic spell. Just because you're unable to accomplish these things don't go bashing people that have by pure strength of will. It all comes down to willpower.
Hey, everyone knows that willpower is the key to success in losing weight, getting fit, beating an eating disorder and many other things in life. Nobody is refuting or bashing that, and it is also impressive how motivated you are and doing so well, but some people have more slip ups than others, and hence the question for help. And everyone is helping by providing little steps to help distract from a binge or identifying the cause of a binge or learning to be less dependent on food etc. Willpower doesn't come easy for some people and one's environment is also a huge factor.
I don't know if you have been through an eating disorder but it is far more than just 'suck it up'. I have been anorexic, bulimic and battling with binge eating and over eating while trying not to fall back into anorexic behaviours too. It is not an easy battle and I know i will have to battle for life, and sometimes telling someone struggling to just suck it up is also implying that they do not have enough willpower and that can be discouraging and hence leading to giving up, more binging, self-reproach and a lot of negativity.
I understand that you're trying to make a point that ultimately it is down to the willpower, but I hope you recognize the negativity that comes with the 'suck it up' message.
You are so right! Binge Eating is an eating disorder. The "Suck it up" part is what annoyed me most. I have TONS of willpower so that is not what I need.
Thanks for explaining what I meant so well!! 0 -
Willpower works once you've got the practice and the behaviors of better living down. Until then, it's a lot of white-knuckling, active self-talk (sometimes at length and out loud) and playing the tape all the way through. When staring down at the barrel of a destructive action, you have to keep telling yourself how much you want to get better. And then do anything - ANYTHING - to take that next step towards getting better. It'll feel forced and unnatural and desperate and terrifying at first, but it does get easier over time.
Willpower will eventually be in your repitoire, it will be a tool that you can grab and use. And it's okay if that's not right now. Do the next right thing - only that, nothing else but that, focus on nothing else when you're in that place - and little by little, you'll discover that you're in a much better place to use willpower than you ever have before.0 -
I'd increase protein. I've noticed that I tend to eat less when I eat more protein. I think it curbs my hunger. You could reduce the carbs, increase protein and see how that helps with your appetite.0
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AHH i feel you. I have been stuck on these last 10 lbs since august. I lose 2, gain 3, lose 4, gain 2. Its incredibly frustrating. Months of seeing no difference has caused me to slack and that obviously doesnt help. I0
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For me, or most people, if I tell myself I cannot eat something, that makes me want it all the more. Acknowledge the fact that you CAN have it, however, you don't WANT it.0
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There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really does come down to that ^ in the end.
Ew, shut up.
BED is an eating disorder; would you tell an anorectic of bulimic that? I hate that BED is treated so much differently because people assume it's just a bunch of fatties that can't keep food out of their mouths. It's NOT as simple as just "getting willpower" and then everything will be fine - it's deeply mental and often not about the food at all. Get a clue.
ETA: And to the people saying "strengthen your relationship with food and get some willpower. Simple!" I reiterate: shut up. If it were that easy and simple, eating disorders wouldn't exist.0 -
Wow! Is that all we need? Can I buy some? Sorry it is not that simple.There's a little thing called willpower.
Get some.
And no, I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm serious. If you want it badly enough, find the willpower to make it happen.
It really is that simple. Strengthen your mental relationship with food.
Have you ever had an eating disorder? That is what binging is. *shakes head*
I wish I had some good advice, I'm still taking it one day at a time. For me it helps to eat small meals throughout the day. If I feel hungry, it's already to late and I am likely to binge. Take a walk, drink some water, find something that works for you. Celebrate everyday you go without binging and be proud of yourself.0
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