Neighbor smoking pot. What would you do?
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Talk to the MOM the Police can't do anything about it unless they catch them doing it and they are not going to stalk the house. If talking to the mom doesn't work they go to the police station both of you and ask to talk to an officer and see what they can do to help. If you document it ahead of time that there is a problem and you are not just an angry neighbor you may get further.0
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Boy, I wish I could have called the cops on my old neighbors who smoked cigarettes & the smell used to drift into my apartment...0
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For F@#KS sake call the cops...EVERY...SINGLE...TIME! Take it from someone who grew up with druggie/alcoholic parents; its better to end this not and with finality.
What the hell? I also grew up with "druggie/alcoholic parents" and if anything you should know calling the police gets you absolutely nowhere because they don't give a **** about that. Also this is about a couple of 18 year old kids, not adults/parents. So your statement is completely irrelevant anyway.
Calling the police for a couple of kids smoking weed in their own garden is absolutely ridiculous. The advice I posted to you earlier in the thread WILL work. If you go to the Mum, that kid will continue to be difficult every time she isn't home. Go to him and speak to him like an adult and ask him if he is willing to come to an agreement with you that works for everyone.
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I love the prejudice that surrounds marijuana as it's labelled as a drug. What about cancer patients who use it for pain medication? I suppose we should go and call the police on them every time too?0 -
When kids are outdoors, they're breathing in all kinds of things-- car exhaust, trash odors, allergens, decomposition, etc etc. Two or three teenagers smoking pot 10-15 feet away from kids is not going to damage their little lungs one bit. Everyone seems to forget that less than twenty years ago, smoking was still allowed inside restaurants, bowling alleys, and other places, and gasp shock, parents still brought their kids to those places!
From what I've read most people would say to mind their own business but are concerned about the wife's business. It's not easy to get a license for a day care, and its also not very easy to gain customers after that. I think they're more concerned about compromising what they've worked hard to achieve rather than the legality or what is good or bad about pot. Because it is illegal they can actually do something about it rather than just putting up with it.
If the teenagers would have just been a little more understanding, less rude, and just go to a different area or smoked inside then this probably wouldn't even be an issue. The owners of this day care are being pretty patient seeing how they've already asked a couple of times.0 -
Talk to the MOM the Police can't do anything about it unless they catch them doing it and they are not going to stalk the house.
"hello, id like to report a drunk driver"
"oh im sorry ma'am, we cant do anything about it because we didnt catch them doing it. have a nice day"
or
"hello, my boyfriend just punched me in the face and im bleeding"
"unfortunately we cant send an officer out because there wasnt one there to witness the punch"
eta: yes i realize both situations are more serious than pot smoking, but its the basic idea you put out there.0 -
For F@#KS sake call the cops...EVERY...SINGLE...TIME! Take it from someone who grew up with druggie/alcoholic parents; its better to end this not and with finality.
What the hell? I also grew up with "druggie/alcoholic parents" and if anything you should know calling the police gets you absolutely nowhere because they don't give a **** about that. Also this is about a couple of 18 year old kids, not adults/parents. So your statement is completely irrelevant anyway.
Calling the police for a couple of kids smoking weed in their own garden is absolutely ridiculous. The advice I posted to you earlier in the thread WILL work. If you go to the Mum, that kid will continue to be difficult every time she isn't home. Go to him and speak to him like an adult and ask him if he is willing to come to an agreement with you that works for everyone.
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I love the prejudice that surrounds marijuana as it's labelled as a drug. What about cancer patients who use it for pain medication? I suppose we should go and call the police on them every time too?
Point missed entirely.
It's about the impact on their business. It doesn't matter what the OP thinks or feels about dope, it's about his customers.
Should the op allow the business to go down the drain in the name of broad minded tolerance of an illegal activity?0 -
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I don't think you read the comments correctly. I was the one who asked if it would be as big of a deal if it were cigarettes because tobacco is not considered an illegal substance and therefore, the wife's business would not risk being shut down because of it. And actually, cannabis smoke is just as harmful because you are still inhaling carcinogens. As a former pot smoker myself I would love to jump on the "pot is better" bandwagon, but unless you use a vaporizer or use methods of ingestion (such as brownies), you're still damaging your lungs. However, I think the concept of second hand smoke is severely exaggerated. A couple people were contesting me on that point and that point only, and I was using the example that tobacco was once allowed in public areas where children would be.0 -
OMG... really? I would: just mind my own business. Or, at most, POLITELY mention to them that you can smell it and would rather not. (Cuz the war on drugs has worked so well..... at least for the criminals who make huge profits precisely because of the "illegal" status.)
While I don't personally enjoy the substance (but I do think it is a good option for people with certain health problems), I think there's much more to worry about from "legal", prescribed meds.... Such as all the people using sleeping pills and driving on the roads every day. I'd be more scared that my child will be killed in a car crash by one of those people, then harmed by a minute waft of smoke coming from the neighbour's backyard.
You'd mind your business until your business is gone because the state shut it down? Really?0 -
Stay out of it each to there own as long as it doesn't cross you're front door leave it but hey it's just advice !
This is where a legal business is run and is subject to spot inspections by both the state (infrequently) and the health department (sometime three times a month)
I mean, if they were shooting up heroin, I could care less because it does not cross onto my property but the smoke does and, as a result, my wife could get her business shut down.
Your wife can't be held responsible for this, she's not causing the smell!
Even if she's not shut down by the state it could bother the parents enough to pull their children, in which case it would still affect her business.
Or the parents could pull the children themselves. I believe he did say that one parent threatened to do just that.
To the OP: Talk to the mother but let her know that if it doesn't stop that you WILL call the cops because it IS affecting your wife's business.
Regardless if the pot smoking is "legal" or not the kids showed a blatant disrespect for the OP's request to smoke the pot elsewhere.0 -
If you can smell it, then obviously you are breathing it in.That is about as basic science as it gets.yeah, so basic you got it wrong.
If they are smelling it, they're breathing it. Perhaps your point is that they cannot get high just because they smell it.
If breathing in the smell of a substance is so harmful, why are kids allowed to hug their cigarette-smoking relatives? Surely the stench is in their hair, their clothing, their car, and their home, so everyone who visits or gets near them is breathing it in!! No, they can't get a nicotine buzz but it still must be bad because they can smell it! Oh, the horror!!
Actually - this is classified as third-hand smoke and IS harmful to children.0 -
What amuses me is imagining that in this situation, if pot was replaced with cigarettes, would it still be this big of a deal?
I wouldn't want my children in a day care where they were constantly breathing in second hand smoke, either. However, here pot is illegal and cigarettes are not, so calling the police wouldn't be a solution.
When kids are outdoors, they're breathing in all kinds of things-- car exhaust, trash odors, allergens, decomposition, etc etc. Two or three teenagers smoking pot 10-15 feet away from kids is not going to damage their little lungs one bit. Everyone seems to forget that less than twenty years ago, smoking was still allowed inside restaurants, bowling alleys, and other places, and gasp shock, parents still brought their kids to those places!
What if I just don't want my kids that close to drugs, whether it's damaging their lungs or not?0 -
For F@#KS sake call the cops...EVERY...SINGLE...TIME! Take it from someone who grew up with druggie/alcoholic parents; its better to end this not and with finality.
What the hell? I also grew up with "druggie/alcoholic parents" and if anything you should know calling the police gets you absolutely nowhere because they don't give a **** about that. Also this is about a couple of 18 year old kids, not adults/parents. So your statement is completely irrelevant anyway.
Calling the police for a couple of kids smoking weed in their own garden is absolutely ridiculous. The advice I posted to you earlier in the thread WILL work. If you go to the Mum, that kid will continue to be difficult every time she isn't home. Go to him and speak to him like an adult and ask him if he is willing to come to an agreement with you that works for everyone.
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I love the prejudice that surrounds marijuana as it's labelled as a drug. What about cancer patients who use it for pain medication? I suppose we should go and call the police on them every time too?
Point missed entirely.
It's about the impact on their business. It doesn't matter what the OP thinks or feels about dope, it's about his customers.
Should the op allow the business to go down the drain in the name of broad minded tolerance of an illegal activity?
^^ This. All the kid has to do is bring it indoors. I'll bet though that mom doesn't know and that's why he's on the fence line. The reality is that until they truly legalize it, the state can cause issues and, in any event, parents have already complained. If it were me though I'd work out a trade for the vaporizer.0 -
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I don't think you read the comments correctly. I was the one who asked if it would be as big of a deal if it were cigarettes because tobacco is not considered an illegal substance and therefore, the wife's business would not risk being shut down because of it. And actually, cannabis smoke is just as harmful because you are still inhaling carcinogens. As a former pot smoker myself I would love to jump on the "pot is better" bandwagon, but unless you use a vaporizer or use methods of ingestion (such as brownies), you're still damaging your lungs. However, I think the concept of second hand smoke is severely exaggerated. A couple people were contesting me on that point and that point only, and I was using the example that tobacco was once allowed in public areas where children would be.
I am not going to go over there and kick anyones *kitten* because, lets face it, I am an adult.
All it takes is for one parent to yank a kid out of the day care and for her to tell the other parents why and suddenly my wife is left without a business.
All it takes is ONE health care worker to smell the pot and declare that she detected an illegal substance and, the doors get closed.
It is just that simple.
Personally, the smell doesn't even bother me. I am not a smoker but I will take that smell over cigs or cigars every day.
It is the business impact.0 -
If you can smell it, then obviously you are breathing it in.That is about as basic science as it gets.yeah, so basic you got it wrong.
If they are smelling it, they're breathing it. Perhaps your point is that they cannot get high just because they smell it.
If breathing in the smell of a substance is so harmful, why are kids allowed to hug their cigarette-smoking relatives? Surely the stench is in their hair, their clothing, their car, and their home, so everyone who visits or gets near them is breathing it in!! No, they can't get a nicotine buzz but it still must be bad because they can smell it! Oh, the horror!!
Actually - this is classified as third-hand smoke and IS harmful to children.
Third-hand smoke? Give me a break. It's just another excuse to blame smokers for negatively affecting everyone else's health, like people love to blame the big fast food chains for making us fat because they push advertising down our throats. Kids touch dead things, eat dirt, play with bugs, put their faces on the floors of public bathrooms, are crammed into classrooms with dozens of sick children during cold and flu season, and hate being washed, and you're worried about third-hand smoke??0 -
First talk to the mom, and then if it keeps on happening go to the cops and report the neighbor.0
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I wouldn't do anything. There are far worse things floating around in the air :noway:0
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If you can smell it, then obviously you are breathing it in.That is about as basic science as it gets.yeah, so basic you got it wrong.
If they are smelling it, they're breathing it. Perhaps your point is that they cannot get high just because they smell it.
If breathing in the smell of a substance is so harmful, why are kids allowed to hug their cigarette-smoking relatives? Surely the stench is in their hair, their clothing, their car, and their home, so everyone who visits or gets near them is breathing it in!! No, they can't get a nicotine buzz but it still must be bad because they can smell it! Oh, the horror!!
Actually - this is classified as third-hand smoke and IS harmful to children.
Third-hand smoke? Give me a break. It's just another excuse to blame smokers for negatively affecting everyone else's health, like people love to blame the big fast food chains for making us fat because they push advertising down our throats. Kids touch dead things, eat dirt, play with bugs, put their faces on the floors of public bathrooms, are crammed into classrooms with dozens of sick children during cold and flu season, and hate being washed, and you're worried about third-hand smoke??
“Thirdhand smoke” is residual contamination from cigarette smoke toxicants that can linger on surfaces long after cigarettes have been extinguished. Studies have shown that days, weeks and even months after a cigarette was smoked, harmful particulates remain on countertops, floors, upholstery, carpets, clothing and other surfaces and fabrics. Infants and children are especially susceptible to thirdhand smoke exposure because of their immature respiratory and immune systems, lower metabolic capacity and tendencies to crawl, play on, breathe near, touch, and mouth contaminated surfaces, such as floors and fabrics. Day care providers who step outside the home or center to smoke may return from their break with thirdhand smoke on their clothing, and thus inadvertently jeopardize the health of infants and children who come in contact with them.
http://publichealthlawcenter.org/sites/default/files/resources/phlc-fs-smokefreechildcare-2011.pdf0 -
For F@#KS sake call the cops...EVERY...SINGLE...TIME! Take it from someone who grew up with druggie/alcoholic parents; its better to end this not and with finality.
What the hell? I also grew up with "druggie/alcoholic parents" and if anything you should know calling the police gets you absolutely nowhere because they don't give a **** about that. Also this is about a couple of 18 year old kids, not adults/parents. So your statement is completely irrelevant anyway.
Calling the police for a couple of kids smoking weed in their own garden is absolutely ridiculous. The advice I posted to you earlier in the thread WILL work. If you go to the Mum, that kid will continue to be difficult every time she isn't home. Go to him and speak to him like an adult and ask him if he is willing to come to an agreement with you that works for everyone.
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I love the prejudice that surrounds marijuana as it's labelled as a drug. What about cancer patients who use it for pain medication? I suppose we should go and call the police on them every time too?
Point missed entirely.
It's about the impact on their business. It doesn't matter what the OP thinks or feels about dope, it's about his customers.
Should the op allow the business to go down the drain in the name of broad minded tolerance of an illegal activity?
^^ This. All the kid has to do is bring it indoors. I'll bet though that mom doesn't know and that's why he's on the fence line. The reality is that until they truly legalize it, the state can cause issues and, in any event, parents have already complained. If it were me though I'd work out a trade for the vaporizer.
I got the point on my first reply to the poster which advised him of how to handle the situation.
This post was my rant about what I quoted.0 -
I wouldn't do anything. There are far worse things floating around in the air :noway:
Did you actually read the post? He's concerned about his wife's business being either shut down by the health department when they do an inspection or her having to close because parents are yanking their kids out and by word of mouth no one is going to send their kids to a day care where there's pot smoking going on in the yard next door.0 -
I wouldn't do anything. There are far worse things floating around in the air :noway:
Did you actually read the post? He's concerned about his wife's business being either shut down by the health department when they do an inspection or her having to close because parents are yanking their kids out and by word of mouth no one is going to send their kids to a day care where there's pot smoking going on in the yard next door.
That's been the fun part. I don't think 1/2 of the people responding read that.0 -
I wouldn't do anything. There are far worse things floating around in the air :noway:
Did you actually read the post? He's concerned about his wife's business being either shut down by the health department when they do an inspection or her having to close because parents are yanking their kids out and by word of mouth no one is going to send their kids to a day care where there's pot smoking going on in the yard next door.
That's been the fun part. I don't think 1/2 of the people responding read that.
Good point. I think most of the people saw title and came in with their pitchforks and torches LOL.0 -
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I don't think you read the comments correctly. I was the one who asked if it would be as big of a deal if it were cigarettes because tobacco is not considered an illegal substance and therefore, the wife's business would not risk being shut down because of it. And actually, cannabis smoke is just as harmful because you are still inhaling carcinogens. As a former pot smoker myself I would love to jump on the "pot is better" bandwagon, but unless you use a vaporizer or use methods of ingestion (such as brownies), you're still damaging your lungs. However, I think the concept of second hand smoke is severely exaggerated. A couple people were contesting me on that point and that point only, and I was using the example that tobacco was once allowed in public areas where children would be.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120110163444.htm
It's lengthy but the gist of it is that it is not as harmful to the lungs as inhaling cigarette smoke.0 -
For gods sake people it's a bit of marijuana. It's healthier for you than cigarette smoking to everyone banging on about how it'd be different if it was cigarettes, you are being idiots because inhaling second hand smoke from cigarettes is so much worse for your body than second hand smoke from a joint.
I don't think you read the comments correctly. I was the one who asked if it would be as big of a deal if it were cigarettes because tobacco is not considered an illegal substance and therefore, the wife's business would not risk being shut down because of it. And actually, cannabis smoke is just as harmful because you are still inhaling carcinogens. As a former pot smoker myself I would love to jump on the "pot is better" bandwagon, but unless you use a vaporizer or use methods of ingestion (such as brownies), you're still damaging your lungs. However, I think the concept of second hand smoke is severely exaggerated. A couple people were contesting me on that point and that point only, and I was using the example that tobacco was once allowed in public areas where children would be.
I am not going to go over there and kick anyones *kitten* because, lets face it, I am an adult.
All it takes is for one parent to yank a kid out of the day care and for her to tell the other parents why and suddenly my wife is left without a business.
All it takes is ONE health care worker to smell the pot and declare that she detected an illegal substance and, the doors get closed.
It is just that simple.
Personally, the smell doesn't even bother me. I am not a smoker but I will take that smell over cigs or cigars every day.
It is the business impact.
I understand that, and that's why I suggested telling the parent. But I am sticking by my original point that bringing the cops to your neighborhood is going to tank the business faster than you can say "Hello, I'd like to file a report". I am not trying to say that the kids should go "unpunished", but if there is ANY way to resolve this without involving the authorities I would do it.
If you're really at your wits' end and feel like no one is going to back down over this (if the parent is also a pothead or something, or thinks their child can't be controlled), here is my last-ditch sneaky idea for you.
Go up to the kids, give them each twenty dollars, and tell them you'd really appreciate if they went somewhere else for a little while. Suggest a restaurant that would attract stoners, such as Denny's or IHop if you've got any around. Believe me, there's nothing a stoner wants more than food. And if you see them take the bait and leave the house, then give the cops an anonymous tip that there will be two teenagers with an illegal substance at the local establishment! If all goes well, they get busted, and not on your street, so your business is safe. Win-win.0 -
You should always confront the parent first. Let the Mother know that when the state does their inspection if they smell it that they will report it . Let the Mother know that the parents are threatening to take their children out of the daycare. Ask her to please have them smoke it inside their house during daycare hours. At least, try to work it out before you call the authorities.0
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It's legal here, if you're over the age of 18. So the cops probably wouldn't do anything.
However, if I were you, and my wife was running a daycare, I would lean over the fence and intimidate the *kitten* out of those kids.0 -
I'm moving to Colorado!0
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If you can smell it, then obviously you are breathing it in.That is about as basic science as it gets.yeah, so basic you got it wrong.
If they are smelling it, they're breathing it. Perhaps your point is that they cannot get high just because they smell it.
If breathing in the smell of a substance is so harmful, why are kids allowed to hug their cigarette-smoking relatives? Surely the stench is in their hair, their clothing, their car, and their home, so everyone who visits or gets near them is breathing it in!! No, they can't get a nicotine buzz but it still must be bad because they can smell it! Oh, the horror!!
Actually - this is classified as third-hand smoke and IS harmful to children.
Third-hand smoke? Give me a break. It's just another excuse to blame smokers for negatively affecting everyone else's health, like people love to blame the big fast food chains for making us fat because they push advertising down our throats. Kids touch dead things, eat dirt, play with bugs, put their faces on the floors of public bathrooms, are crammed into classrooms with dozens of sick children during cold and flu season, and hate being washed, and you're worried about third-hand smoke??
“Thirdhand smoke” is residual contamination from cigarette smoke toxicants that can linger on surfaces long after cigarettes have been extinguished. Studies have shown that days, weeks and even months after a cigarette was smoked, harmful particulates remain on countertops, floors, upholstery, carpets, clothing and other surfaces and fabrics. Infants and children are especially susceptible to thirdhand smoke exposure because of their immature respiratory and immune systems, lower metabolic capacity and tendencies to crawl, play on, breathe near, touch, and mouth contaminated surfaces, such as floors and fabrics. Day care providers who step outside the home or center to smoke may return from their break with thirdhand smoke on their clothing, and thus inadvertently jeopardize the health of infants and children who come in contact with them.
http://publichealthlawcenter.org/sites/default/files/resources/phlc-fs-smokefreechildcare-2011.pdf
Okay, so... it's one more contaminant added to the dozens that children already come into contact with on a daily basis. Shall we put all our children in plastic bubbles so that they'll never touch anything that could harm them?0 -
Talk to the Mom and tell her you will call the police next time.. or alternatively set up a sprinkler in your yard such that it waters into their yard right into the area where they sit.. maybe the Mom would be ok with you doing that too.
Unfortunately the Mom may not have too much pull with them if they are doing it when she isnt home...0 -
I thnk one then 2, if 1 didn't work.0
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Weed is not that big a deal i mean in some states its used as medicine. Why not mind your own business0
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