Eating "junk" and losing weight?

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  • krystina_letitia9
    krystina_letitia9 Posts: 697 Member
    I'm probably one of these people you're talking about. I never cut out anything when I was losing weight, and I'm not about to cut it out now that I'm maintaining. So yes, you see cupcakes and slurpees and pizza and burgers in my diary on a regular basis. However, I do try and focus on eating mostly healthy food, hitting my macros and overall calorie goal. I refuse to assign food labels such as "good" or "bad" or "junk". If at the end of the day I have the carbs and calories left over to enjoy a slurpee, I'm going to have the slurpee, and enjoy every sip of it.

    As for how quickly I lost, I lost my weight at an average pace of just over a pound a week, exactly as fast as I wanted to lose it.

    You took the words right out of my mouth! Most days, I eat pretty well, but I'm sure not going to deny myself dessert or hamburger and fries now and then :tongue:
  • marynificent
    marynificent Posts: 110 Member
    p.s. be as angry as you want to be about it, but science will always trump anecdotal experience.
    Spoken like someone with no real life experience.

    haha! that is the funniest thing i have heard all day!
    Can science confirm that?

    Your mom confirmed it already. Anecdotal experience, like a boss!
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    p.s. be as angry as you want to be about it, but science will always trump anecdotal experience.
    Spoken like someone with no real life experience.

    haha! that is the funniest thing i have heard all day!
    Can science confirm that?

    Your mom confirmed it already. Anecdotal experience, like a boss!

    Did that just happen?

    I think it just happened.

    God I love this site.
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Why on earth would I omit something that I would normally include during maintenance? Too much restriction coupled with a rigid definition of eating "clean" leads to a high level of non-compliance. With that said, I am sojourning to the wonderful oasis called Ice Creamia.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    p.s. be as angry as you want to be about it, but science will always trump anecdotal experience.

    p.p.s. heavy smokers are also thinner than non-smokers - if weight is the most important indicator of health, perhaps we should all look into smoking!

    p.p.p.s. j.k. about the smoking! terrible habit!
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    This made me LOL. Not sarcastically at all. I'm a scientist and I appreciate your humor :-).
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    p.s. be as angry as you want to be about it, but science will always trump anecdotal experience.
    Spoken like someone with no real life experience.


    haha! that is the funniest thing i have heard all day!
    Can science confirm that?

    Your mom confirmed it already. Anecdotal experience, like a boss!


    Owned. Like a boss.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I see SO many people on here who have their diaries open and eat more than half of their calories from what's considered "junk" food. What's the deal with this?! I realize I'm the one with 150 pounds left to lose, but wouldn't these people be losing more if they would eat fruits and vegetables at every meal? I'm striving for 75% fresh food. Is that maybe unrealistic? And there are people losing .5 pounds per week but eating candy, chips, etc. Would it not make a difference if they'd eat real food instead? Maybe I'm just confused!

    Change your definition of "junk." I don't consider food to be "junk" if I am hungry. It's only "junk" if I eat when I'm not hungry.
  • HotrodsGirl0107
    HotrodsGirl0107 Posts: 243 Member
    I eat what many people would call "junk" on once or twice a week. I eat in moderation. I am active, healthy, energetic and I have maintained a 125lbs weight loss for almost 2 years. If you don't like what cooking in my kitchen then GET OUT. Sheesh why would you care about what other people eat anyway?
  • PosterGuy1
    PosterGuy1 Posts: 163 Member
    I eat clean because I don't trust myself.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    I eat clean because I don't trust myself.

    Good for you! Seriously, it takes a lot of strength to admit that and take control of it! Wish you the best!
  • PosterGuy1
    PosterGuy1 Posts: 163 Member
    I eat clean because I don't trust myself.

    Good for you! Seriously, it takes a lot of strength to admit that and take control of it! Wish you the best!

    Thank you. I began this journey on 1/1, and I've already lost 46 pounds. Eating clean has been great.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    I eat clean because I don't trust myself.

    Good for you! Seriously, it takes a lot of strength to admit that and take control of it! Wish you the best!

    Thank you. I began this journey on 1/1, and I've already lost 46 pounds. Eating clean has been great.

    That's great! Keep up the good work!! :flowerforyou:
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I happily and unapologetically eat what other people might classify as junk. Candy bars, pizza, cup cakes, etc. I can't see how perhaps 10% of what I eat is going to undo the 90% that's non-junk and make me an unhealthy person.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    I happily and apologetically eat what other people might classify as junk. Candy bars, pizza, cup cakes, etc. I can't see how perhaps 10% of what I eat is going to undo the 90% that's non-junk and make me an unhealthy person.
    ^^This!! But do you mean un-apologetically?
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I happily and apologetically eat what other people might classify as junk. Candy bars, pizza, cup cakes, etc. I can't see how perhaps 10% of what I eat is going to undo the 90% that's non-junk and make me an unhealthy person.
    ^^This!! But do you mean un-apologetically?

    Yes. That's what I get for blindly following spell check's suggestion. :blushing:
  • aepdx
    aepdx Posts: 218 Member
    It is pretty sad what most people seem to put in their bodies.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    I happily and apologetically eat what other people might classify as junk. Candy bars, pizza, cup cakes, etc. I can't see how perhaps 10% of what I eat is going to undo the 90% that's non-junk and make me an unhealthy person.
    ^^This!! But do you mean un-apologetically?

    Yes. That's what I get for blindly following spell check's suggestion. :blushing:

    No worries! I only wanted to be sure you meant what I thought you did! :-)
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    I eat "junk" from time to time because I'm not on a "diet". I'm on a lifestyle change, but that doesn't mean I have to give up things I love. I just eat less of it.

    It shouldn't concern you what others eat or don't eat. You are in charge of your journey. Let others be in charge of theirs.
  • Blakelynn3
    Blakelynn3 Posts: 127 Member
    I'm jumping in without reading all 6 pages. I'm just starting out and if my diary were public, you'd see plenty of 'junk'. I'm slowly changing my eating habits. And I'm learning moderation. If I go out to eat, I order what I want and eat less of it. If I am eating fast food, I'll get a grilled chicken sandwich (dry - no heaps of mayo!). I'll also get an occassional coke when I'm out since I stopped buying them at the grocery store. At home, I am making mostly the same recipes that I used to eat but I'm subbing a lot of ingredients for healthier versions. So far, it's working for me. I firmly believe that all things are ok in moderation and that I have to take baby steps so I don't burn myself out. As I lose more weight, my calorie deficit will get smaller. By the time that happens, by slowly working toward a cleaner diet, I'll be in a place where I have a healthy relationship with food again. I don't think it's a good idea (for me) to go from extreme overindulgence of food to the opposite extreme overnight.
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    <----Eats my fair share of what some might refer to as "junk" or "bad". Healthy weight and all numbers are in the healthy range.

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html
    All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk
    In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities.
    Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark.
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    <----Eats my fair share of what some might refer to as "junk" or "bad". Healthy weight and all numbers are in the healthy range.

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html
    All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk
    In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities.
    Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark.

    BEST post I've seen in a very long time! Way to quote science like a boss! Love it! THANK YOU!! :-)

    Edit: Sorry...I'm a scientist and I find that this is severely lacking in all the finger pointing we see! :-) Back it up, yo!

    Edit 2: Before I'm flamed, myself included :-P. I do usually try to put a wide-angled lens on things though. It's the global climate systems climatologist in me :-P.
  • funsmile1234
    funsmile1234 Posts: 83 Member
    I think you can still have junk food in moderation. To me healthy eating is not so much about deprivation but about giving your body fuel and preventing many diseases or chronic conditions later in life. It's also about how it makes you feel. When you eat healthy you have more energy and strength and frankly I believe you are a much happier person in the long run.
  • purplelizzard
    purplelizzard Posts: 93 Member
    I'm not willing to cut out anything that I won't cut out for the rest of my life. It's not sustainable. I eat my fair share of fruit & veg and other healthy foods, but I eat junk too.

    I agree with this!
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  • 366to266
    366to266 Posts: 473 Member
    If people want to fill themselves with processed junk and frankenfoods that is their human right.

    It means more fresh, nourishing food left for ME :-)

    PS someone upthread said 75% fresh, whole, real foods was unattainable. Well I am eating 100% that way.
  • I agree with you Mary. My sister-in-law is very thin and basically eats very unhealthily, although she wouldn't describe it that way. She is on several meds for B/P, Cholesterol, etc. I have always eaten relatively healthy but BMF and I have hit alot of Happy Hours
    and dinners out over the last 5 yrs, so I need to lose some lbs. However, I am on no meds at 64 and have always exercised. So
    thin doesnt = healthy. Also, her flesh literally hangs on her legs from no exercise...she has huge bags under her eyes from eating
    poorly, her mother looks younger. I am not being vindictive, just validating that the body needs antioxidants and vitamins!
  • Stormchasegrl
    Stormchasegrl Posts: 61 Member
    If people want to fill themselves with processed junk and frankenfoods that is their human right.

    It means more fresh, nourishing food left for ME :-)

    PS someone upthread said 75% fresh, whole, real foods was unattainable. Well I am eating 100% that way.

    I'm pretty sure the argument has been more that it's unsustainable, not attainable. I could be wrong, but I think the people arguing for the so-called junk food are simply saying that they refuse to cut it all out to an extreme because that would not be sustainable for them.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I .... always exercised.

    er flesh literally hangs on her legs from no exercise

    And somehow all her problems are because of the food she eats, not exercise.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    A few years back, to prove to my sister and others it could be done, I went 2 months eating nothing but desserts and stayed within my daily calories, lost 2lbs and didn't gain anything. I wouldn't encourage someone to do that for their diet, but it can be done, heh.
    A normal day was something like, 2 swiss cake roll packs 550 calories, 2 packages of smores pop tarts 400 calories, 1 cup of ice cream (vanilla) 300 calories, piece of carrot cake 400 calories. I also worked out 45mins- 1 hour a day still 5 days a week during that time. I was sick of sweets after that little adventure though, I hardly ever eat anything real sweet that isn't very low carb these days.
    Ahhh---only young people dare to abuse their bodies this way--"youth is truly wasted on the young." At my age, If I ate like that for a couple of months, I would probably end up in the hospital (or worse). I'm not surprised that you were sick of sweets after that.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    If people want to fill themselves with processed junk and frankenfoods that is their human right.

    It means more fresh, nourishing food left for ME :-)

    PS someone upthread said 75% fresh, whole, real foods was unattainable. Well I am eating 100% that way.

    I agree. I eat 100% whole real foods too--and have for at least three years. The thing that keeps it sustainable for me is the exclusion of sugar and wheat from my diet. I was addicted to both growing up and I realized that to solve the problem of my "lack of willpower" I had to get rid of forces that were sapping it. Now, my body craves nourishing food instead of the junk and I am slowly regaining the health that I lost from yo-yo dieting. :-)