Squats all the way down?
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He\she is incorrect on both counts.0
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The 90 degree rule is getting pretty old, but its a good guideline to prevent injury. ATG (*kitten* to grass) squats do have more glute focus. When it come to form make sure you are not tucking you butt under, or rounding your back, in the deepest part of your squat. As long as you knees are pain free then keep it up!0
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I go past parallel sooooo go for it -- being able to get that low is a good sign of great flexibility in the hips
agree if you have knee pains you shouldn't though0 -
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert
While working out, go as deep as your body will let you. Listen to your body , it will let you know when to stop.
If you were just maxing out, then I would say go 90 degrees to just past 90.
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If it doesn't hurt keep doing it.
I do my best to go past 90, but if I go too far, I get pain in the front/top of my knee, I always hit 90, but I may not go too far past.0 -
I'm not an expert on squats and I'm sure some experts will chime in but I wanted to say being an anesthesiologist does not make one an expert on squats either.
I agree with this a lot
Just cause you went to med school/are a physician does not give you the entitlement to tell people how to work out. I personally feel that deep squats are safer because:
1) You tend to have to use less weight
2) You will recruit a lot more accessory muscles - which just in general has helped my posture a ton.
There is a definite counter argument regarding if you have had previous knee damage - but I have torn ligaments in my right knee that were repaired (happened ~ 10 years ago) and I have had no problem with going below parallel on squats0 -
Please remember:
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ATG (A.ss to grass) from my experience with people knee injuries come from bad form0
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Please remember:
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I always thought the 90 degrees thing was a minimum. As in, you should at least reach 90 degrees during a squat.
As long as you knees aren't over your toes and you aren't in pain I say go for it.0 -
I used to work out under the supervision of professionals, and they all said the same thing. Going past a 90 degree bend puts a lot of strain on the ligaments between the muscles and the knee join and can lead to tears in the ACL, whcih is extrememly painful and difficult to heal. I would recommend not going past 90 degrees unless under the direct supervision of a professional who says otherwise (and by professional, I'm more referring to a physical therapist or sports medicine professional than a standard gym trainer).0
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If I hurt my knees I'm basically on the sideline for all types of exercises for weeks, if not months, I'm not willing to take that risk. So I'd rather go heavier, then go lower.0
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Now, as a pediatrician, I think I can weigh in on this photograph and say that this young child not only has excellent deep squat form, but is displaying age and developmental stage-appropriate manual and exploratory skills, though it appears what is in his hands may shortly go in to his mouth. Which I don't generally recommend with the bar at the gym.0
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I can't go all the way down, but go past 90. I find if I only go to a seated postion I use my knees more to straighten up which hurts after a while. If I go lower I tend to use power in my thighs to go up. Just my experience anyway.0
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Maybe this will help: http://www.biomechfit.com/2012/02/09/3-squatting-myths-that-refuse-to-die
Thanks for sharing this. That is a great article. To the OP, I would politely thank the gentleman for his well intentioned advice and continue doing your workout as you have been. Just listen to your body. Most of the issues I have seen and heard people attribute to squats are really related to going too heavy too soon and having poor form as a result. (Yes ... I am guilty of doing that to in my younger days and have paid the price!) You sound like you know what you are doing and are using good form, so I don't think you have anything to worry about.0 -
Lol that picture is awesome - never noticed kids definitely have perfect squat form0
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He is right. The 90 degrees is the classic yoga 'chair' pose which really works out all the muscles involved, upper/lower belly, sides, thighs, calves. Going lower doesn't really help, except perhaps as cardio. I would say give both a trial and whichever works the largest group of muscles, go for it.0
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i go to 90 degrees, but i see crossfitters going @$$ to the grass so i think there are multiple ways to do them.0
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I read an article several months ago in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning where they weighed the pros and cons of going past parallel. I don't have it on me now since it was book form and not online. However, the conclusion they came to was that there is no added value to going past parallel. There are actually more injury risks to stopping before parallel, though.
So, while they didn't say you are setting yourself up for injury by going extremely deep on squats, they couldn't find any additional benefit from it.0 -
thanks everyone! I think I will keep doing deep squats with weight progression until I feel any kind of pain or strain on my knees. Then I will readjust and not go as low0
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