How much sugar grams is to much

HomegirlDee
HomegirlDee Posts: 18 Member
in Food and Nutrition
well, I'm trying to jump back on this horse. And I just dont understand about the sugar and insulin. How much (G)grams of sugar is to much. I already have like 22 grams this morning but i hardly ate anything. I had apple slices, orange, cup of frosted flakes (my weakness) with unsweetened almond milk....what is a good consumtion for the day?
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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    There's nothing wrong with sugar, unless you have a medical condition that dictates otherwise. This applies to all forms of sugar even HFCS.

    Consumption of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup does not increase liver fat or ectopic fat deposition in muscles http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2012-0322

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/foodconsumption/FoodGuideIndex.htm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19486715
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064539
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18065574
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17616770
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991646
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592650
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2178391?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1799283?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15181085?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386821?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20047139
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996880
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064536?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996851?dopt=Abstract

    Edited for formatting.
  • HomegirlDee
    HomegirlDee Posts: 18 Member
    Your right...no more frosted flakes...they were on sale and i just couldnt resist..but today is a new day....now you said you limit yourself to 30, so the blueberries and rasberries dont have that much sugar?? they taste some much more sweeter??
  • bizco
    bizco Posts: 1,949 Member
    Don't worry too much about sugar as long as it's coming from whole foods like raw fruit, vegetables, milk, etc. It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Unless you're diabetic and have different needs.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    There's nothing wrong with sugar, unless you have a medical condition that dictates otherwise. This applies to all forms of sugar even HFCS.

    Consumption of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup does not increase liver fat or ectopic fat deposition in muscles http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2012-0322

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/foodconsumption/FoodGuideIndex.htm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19486715
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064539
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18065574
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17616770
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991646
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592650
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2178391?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1799283?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15181085?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386821?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20047139
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996880
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064536?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996851?dopt=Abstract

    Edited for formatting.

    can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?
  • weightingtobloom
    weightingtobloom Posts: 30 Member
    because refined sugars are empty calories
    Plus, if you eat a very high sugar diet you tend to have energy swings as your blood sugar rises and drops.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    There's nothing wrong with sugar, unless you have a medical condition that dictates otherwise. This applies to all forms of sugar even HFCS.

    Consumption of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup does not increase liver fat or ectopic fat deposition in muscles http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2012-0322

    http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/foodconsumption/FoodGuideIndex.htm
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19486715
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064539
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18065574
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17616770
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991646
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592650
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2178391?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1799283?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15181085?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386821?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20047139
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996880
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064536?dopt=Abstract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996851?dopt=Abstract

    Edited for formatting.

    can you tell me, for each study, who paid to have it conducted?

    You can discover that by reading the studies, notes, cliffs and abstracts. Not that hard. Unlike you, I don't rely on wikipedia for my sources.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    question. is it POSSIBLE that the corn industry is spreading their own propaganda that says HFCS is ok? I'm just asking if it's possible.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    question. is it POSSIBLE that the corn industry is spreading their own propaganda that says HFCS is ok? I'm just asking if it's possible.

    Anything is possible. I do enjoy how you cry conspiracy in the absence of any scientific refute.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    question. is it POSSIBLE that the corn industry is spreading their own propaganda that says HFCS is ok? I'm just asking if it's possible.

    Anything is possible. I do enjoy how you cry conspiracy in the absence of any scientific refute.

    says the guy who brought up propaganda in the first place?
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    question. is it POSSIBLE that the corn industry is spreading their own propaganda that says HFCS is ok? I'm just asking if it's possible.

    Anything is possible. I do enjoy how you cry conspiracy in the absence of any scientific refute.

    says the guy who brought up propaganda in the first place?

    Sources or propaganda/myth.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    question. is it POSSIBLE that the corn industry is spreading their own propaganda that says HFCS is ok? I'm just asking if it's possible.

    Anything is possible. I do enjoy how you cry conspiracy in the absence of any scientific refute.

    says the guy who brought up propaganda in the first place?

    Sources or propaganda/myth.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19704096
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-depression-cure/200907/dietary-sugar-and-mental-illness-surprising-link
    http://www.aces.edu/dept/extcomm/newspaper/mar12a03.html
    http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/HealthyDietGoals/Sugars-and-Carbohydrates_UCM_303296_Article.jsp

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/779985

    that work?
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Magerum - how much sugar DO you feel is too much?
  • kabel4892
    kabel4892 Posts: 167 Member
    I need to make me some popcorn :)

    But to answer the OP's question, I have always wondered the same thing. How much sugar is too much.
    But instead of worrying about that now, i'm going to try harder to make sure it comes from things like fruits and veggies and yogurt.
    Not candy and chocolate, which are my weaknesses. I'd say if you dont have a medical problem, dont worry about it. :)
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Magerum - how much sugar DO you feel is too much?

    That's a completely different answer based on the individual and their goals. Whatever doesn't fit into your individual macro plan is a generic answer. I keep mine around 200g when eating 4000 daily. 135ish when eating 3500. Which is about 20% of my intake.
  • ARDuBaie
    ARDuBaie Posts: 378 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    One of the main reasons for cutting out as much refined sugar as possible is because sugar has no nutritional value. If you can eat an orange or apple instead of refined sugar, you will not only get the carb energy you need, but will also get some vitamin C and other vitamins as well. Plus fiber, which will fill you up, causing you to eat less.

    HFCS are metabolized differently than sugars. The liver is taxed to work harder when metabolizing HFCS. HFCS is not for human consumption.
  • SnicciFit
    SnicciFit Posts: 967 Member
    I think the answer to your question is different for everyone and depends on your motives (weight loss, diabetes, overall health?) If I were you, I would start by eliminating (or at least reducing) refined sugars, as mentioned by others. Then, if you are not meeting your goals (whatever those might be), start looking at your fruit intake. I would never suggest not eating fruit, but just being balanced overall with your fruits, veggies, proteins, fats...etc.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    One of the main reasons for cutting out as much refined sugar as possible is because sugar has no nutritional value. If you can eat an orange or apple instead of refined sugar, you will not only get the carb energy you need, but will also get some vitamin C and other vitamins as well. Plus fiber, which will fill you up, causing you to eat less.

    Sugar is a carb hence its nutritional value. It is also used to restore glycogen levels.
    HFCS are metabolized differently than sugars. The liver is taxed to work harder when metabolizing HFCS. HFCS is not for human consumption.

    Consumption of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup does not increase liver fat or ectopic fat deposition in muscles

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdf/10.1139/apnm-2012-0322

    Edited to fix quotes.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    not all carbs are processed the same way by the body. nor do we get the same amount and type of energy from all carbs. you oversimplify.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Magerum - how much sugar DO you feel is too much?

    That's a completely different answer based on the individual and their goals. Whatever doesn't fit into your individual macro plan is a generic answer. I keep mine around 200g when eating 4000 daily. 135ish when eating 3500. Which is about 20% of my intake.

    From the American Heart Association:
    A prudent upper limit of intake is half of the discretionary calorie allowance, which for most American women is no more than 100 calories per day and for most American men is no more than 150 calories per day from added sugars.

    That means no more than 37g of added sugars for men, and 25g for women.

    You can trust the AHA or you can go with magerum and his 200g/day
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Magerum - how much sugar DO you feel is too much?

    That's a completely different answer based on the individual and their goals. Whatever doesn't fit into your individual macro plan is a generic answer. I keep mine around 200g when eating 4000 daily. 135ish when eating 3500. Which is about 20% of my intake.

    From the American Heart Association:
    A prudent upper limit of intake is half of the discretionary calorie allowance, which for most American women is no more than 100 calories per day and for most American men is no more than 150 calories per day from added sugars.

    That means no more than 37g of added sugars for men, and 25g for women.

    You can trust the AHA or you can go with magerum and his 200g/day

    Based on your own argument... MY discretionary intake is about 2000 calories a day, based on exercise level and 4000 calorie daily intake to maintain. Which would be 1000 calories of sugar intake, which is 250 g. Which in turn is more than I consume at 200 g.

    Thank you for making my point.
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Great point Reddy. Perhaps I should clarify that NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU NEED TO STOP DERAILING THREADS WITH YOUR PETTY AND JUVENILE ARGUMENTS. THE OP DOESN'T DESERVE IT AND YOU ARE NOT BEING HELPFUL. I hope this clarifies my earlier point.
    With love,
    Burt
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    He actually didn't say that.

    Great point Reddy. Perhaps I should clarify that NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK AND YOU NEED TO STOP DERAILING THREADS WITH YOUR PETTY AND JUVENILE ARGUMENTS. THE OP DOESN'T DESERVE IT AND YOU ARE NOT BEING HELPFUL. I hope this clarifies my earlier point.
    With love,
    Burt

    pretty sure this thread hasn't been derailed. we're talking about how much sugar is too much, correct?
  • BurtHuttz
    BurtHuttz Posts: 3,653 Member
    pretty sure this thread hasn't been derailed. we're talking about how much sugar is too much, correct?

    Again, petty, juvenile arguing.
  • jeslaughter
    jeslaughter Posts: 131 Member
    It's the refined added sugars you need to limit.

    Can you explain why you state that?

    listen dude, we know you love pop tarts, but cutting down on sugar is NOT a bad thing to do - it can ONLY be good for you as long as you're reasonable. why come in here and start putting down other peoples' choices while they're trying to get healthy?

    I am no way putting down other peoples choices. I am trying to discourage spreading of propaganda and old wives tales. Also trying to explain to people that there's one less thing they need to worry about if they don't have a specific medical reason to worry about it. I also never said it was a bad thing.

    Fear mongering over sugar isn't necessary.

    TA DA!!!!
  • jeslaughter
    jeslaughter Posts: 131 Member
    Enough. OP question is about how much sugar is too much. Magerum says "a reasonable amount". CoachReddy says "less is more."

    Good points both.

    With love,
    Burt

    perfect!!! I agree
  • candieprayz
    candieprayz Posts: 29 Member
    All this talk about Sugar makes me want to go work out! :huh:

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