Swedish Mannequins Now In Normal Sizes!

Hi

Wasn't sure where to post this but really wanted to share, I got sent this via Facebook from my sister. I really hope this is picked up in other areas and countries, it would be nice to look at a normal sized Mannequin and be assured you don't have to be a stick insect to wear the clothing. ^_^ hehe

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/swedish-mannequins-cause-a-controversy--192108535.html

What do you think?
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  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
    I never realized that as a size 4 I wasn't considered "normal".
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,128 Member
    I'm not sure if going by "average size" is good. Because I mean, the average size can be big still. Seems like making an average size can promote thinking it's ok to not want to get into better shape.

    I mean, unrealistically small isn't good, obviously. But average when the average is already large isn't good.
  • wikitbikit
    wikitbikit Posts: 518 Member
    I like the idea. I'm not sure it would really make a difference to me because my lumps and glumps seem to be in different places--I just don't have a streamlined body, no matter what size... But the truth is that clothes come in all sizes to fit people of all sizes, and many people respond more favorably to things that are "like them." It would probably have a positive image effect on any store that decided to do it, although I don't know it would necessarily equate to mo' money for them.
  • Mavd hope I didn't offend you, :cry: I didn't mean to, I am not sure what a size 4 is in the UK? smallest size I have seen here is 8 :ohwell:

    I am in two minds, not sure I like the new but I definitely don't like the current ones.
  • ThriftyChica12
    ThriftyChica12 Posts: 373 Member
    whether or not "normal" size is "good"....

    since mannequins are meant to show WHAT CLOTHING WILL LOOK LIKE ON A HUMAN BODY, shouldn't the mannequins therefore LOOK LIKE AN AVERAGE HUMAN BODY? whether we have gotten too big or not, what's the point in seeing something on a mannequin that looks nothing like us?

    and since when is being a size 8 or 10 "dangerous" or "obese"....god...the mannequins are not even "fat", they are just not emaciated....

    run for the hills!!! a size 10 mannequin!!!! women everywhere will start eating entire sticks of butter for breakfast!!!!! the mannequins!!! good god!!!!!
  • buffybabe
    buffybabe Posts: 180 Member
    I never realized that as a size 4 I wasn't considered "normal".


    Yeah...no kidding..I range between a 2 and a 4 and consider myself pretty healthy and non "abnormal"
  • buffybabe
    buffybabe Posts: 180 Member
    OP, a UK 6 is a US 4.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    I like that the mannequins are of varied sizes, but I'm almost certain I'm a normal size for me at 0-2. And, I didn't kill myself to get this way. I am actually actively trying to gain weight. I'm more healthy now than I ever have been in my entire life, wearing a size 6, even.
  • Super cute mannequins.

    Now to contact Goya, Monet, Renoir and others in a seance and tell them that their sexy nude models had blobby tummies, soft, untoned thighs, and other unsightly areas. Hey, those women weren't sexy at all!
  • kayemme
    kayemme Posts: 1,782 Member
    I think it proves that "sizes" are rather arbitrary. someone posted about being a "size 4" and not being considered "normal" except that number is completely determined by a vanity marketing team.

    today's "size 4" is more like a classic size 8 or 10, even. so "normal" doesn't really apply to anyone because everything is shifting, always.
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
    I'm a US size 6, therefore ALL mannequins in my local stores should be a size 6, obviously.
  • megan1869
    megan1869 Posts: 166 Member
    Its nice to know I hover somewhere in the middle of "mannequin size" and "average size" LOL :laugh:

    I really do like seeing something a bit softer/realistic in stores... its nice to know that when my size is missing from the racks I can check the mannequin to see if I can steal hers! - That would NEVER be possible with a normal tiny mannequin.

    Plus its a positive step for many women's self image.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    Normal?

    While I am glad there are a variety of sizes now.. watch using words like "normal"..
  • I'm 'normal' at a size 14. Women, men, people come in all different sizes. My 23 pound Maine Coon cat doesn't think my 7 lb rescued feral is normal--but he gets bossed around by her anyway. She is 7 pounds of feisty.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I suppose from a marketing perspective it makes sense. But it's sad that overweight is now considered "normal", though I suppose they just mean average.

    The person in the article that was quoted as saying the heavier mannequin represented a healthy BMI was certainly wrong though.
  • I never realized that as a size 4 I wasn't considered "normal".


    Yeah...no kidding..I range between a 2 and a 4 and consider myself pretty healthy and non "abnormal"

    I suppose normal is individual, you guys look amazing!

    For me before I gained weight, normal was a size 10 (UK) when I did get down to a UK 8 border 6 I looked ill. So for me about size 10 is what I view as normal. perhaps Mannequins should alter depending who views the store :smile: do you think they can do that yet??
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
    OP, a UK 6 is a US 4.

    A UK 8 is a US 4. I'm a UK 12 and a US 8. I've got trousers I bought in the US years ago in an 8 and they fit well.

    Why can't they just have a variety of mannequins? They don't all need to be the same size. And the mannequins in the link still have flat stomachs!
  • buffybabe
    buffybabe Posts: 180 Member
    I think it proves that "sizes" are rather arbitrary. someone posted about being a "size 4" and not being considered "normal" except that number is completely determined by a vanity marketing team.

    today's "size 4" is more like a classic size 8 or 10, even. so "normal" doesn't really apply to anyone because everything is shifting, always.

    But the "normal" size the OP was referring to of the mannequin is NOT a classic 8 or 10, it is a modern day 8 or 10. So in comparison to these "normal" size mannequins, I AM smaller. I just think the word normal isn't the best word choice.
  • mariposa224
    mariposa224 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I think it proves that "sizes" are rather arbitrary. someone posted about being a "size 4" and not being considered "normal" except that number is completely determined by a vanity marketing team.

    today's "size 4" is more like a classic size 8 or 10, even. so "normal" doesn't really apply to anyone because everything is shifting, always.
    Right... And I'm a US 4 as well. But having mannequins that are slightly bigger doesn't offend me in the least. I don't find that the "average", US citizen anyway, woman is generally considered to be a size 4, and, as someone else said, mannequins are intended to show what clothes will look like on a human body.

    I tried on wedding dresses yesterday and they are sized a little closer to how clothing USED TO BE sized here. The dress I bought is an 8. One of the 10s I tried on was tight as well. Sizes are subjective. I actually PREFER seeing clothing on mannequins that aren't a size 0.
  • buffybabe
    buffybabe Posts: 180 Member
    OP, a UK 6 is a US 4.

    A UK 8 is a US 4. I'm a UK 12 and a US 8. I've got trousers I bought in the US years ago in an 8 and they fit well.

    Why can't they just have a variety of mannequins? They don't all need to be the same size. And the mannequins in the link still have flat stomachs!

    I have always had to buy UK 6 when I order from UK stores, so I was just basing it on their size charts.
  • mariposa224
    mariposa224 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I think it proves that "sizes" are rather arbitrary. someone posted about being a "size 4" and not being considered "normal" except that number is completely determined by a vanity marketing team.

    today's "size 4" is more like a classic size 8 or 10, even. so "normal" doesn't really apply to anyone because everything is shifting, always.

    But the "normal" size the OP was referring to of the mannequin is NOT a classic 8 or 10, it is a modern day 8 or 10. So in comparison to these "normal" size mannequins, I AM smaller. I just think the word normal isn't the best word choice.
    She also apologized. It would seem she made an error in the choice of her wording & we can't edit the subject line once posted. Cut her some slack...
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    This is my favorite comment from that article, "Now all we see are stick figures like the Norman Rockwell paintings as being attractive not in Europe only in America."

    Note: Most of the comments on that article are already pretty disgusting--be forewarned.
  • mariposa224
    mariposa224 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I suppose from a marketing perspective it makes sense. But it's sad that overweight is now considered "normal", though I suppose they just mean average.

    The person in the article that was quoted as saying the heavier mannequin represented a healthy BMI was certainly wrong though.
    Wow... So you honestly believe that anyone wearing a size 8 or 10 is overweight???? And certainly in an unhealthy BMI????? Judgmental much? Suppose the woman is 5'10" and wears an 8 or a 10? Still think that? Over-generalization.... Wow...
  • Guys I honestly didn't want to offend anyone I should have thought more about my wording, I simply wanted to share something I read and ask peoples thoughts,

    I really do apologies for upsetting anyone :( I feel like I have caused a lot of pain and trouble, which was never my intention.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    I think they look nice. I think it proves that the exact clothes size you wear does not determine how good you look. they look like they have between 25-30% body fat (based on comparisons with body fat percentage photos of real people, obviously the mannikins don't actually have any real fat) which is not obese. So any arguments against them on the basis of promoting unhealthy body composition are invalid. They do not look obese. Dress size does not determine whether you are obese or not. There are plenty of women with healthy body compositions at those dress sizes.

    I wouldn't agree with them promoting unhealthy body fat percentages, but people have different frame sizes and different amounts of muscle, and two people at the same body fat percentage will not necessarily be the same dress size.


    Also I totally disagree with all the body shaming (in the article, most of which I didn't even read) - people come in all shapes and sizes, and they all look great at a healthy body fat percentage.
  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
    Mavd hope I didn't offend you, :cry: I didn't mean to, I am not sure what a size 4 is in the UK? smallest size I have seen here is 8 :ohwell:

    I am in two minds, not sure I like the new but I definitely don't like the current ones.

    Using terms like "normal" can be offensive, although I'm guessing you just meant "average". Just keep in mind that people are NORMALLY different sizes. My honest opinion is that it looks like the store has a variety of sized mannequins, which is more normal than a bunch of cloned 4s or cloned 14s would be!

    EDIT: Although what isn't normal to me is how perfect the bodies are of both the 4 and 14 mannequins. Wouldn't it be kind of cool if they did molds of real models for the mannequins?
  • Danger2OneSelf
    Danger2OneSelf Posts: 883 Member
    Does this mean the male mannequins will no longer have washboard abs? I've spent my whole life trying to figure out how they maintain such a solid physique, while living such a sedentary lifestyle? I guess I'll lose my envious attitude and quit sucker punching them while I shop for clothes
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
    I just told my boyfriend about this, his response? "Why don't you guys just try the *kitten* on" Lol, a mans perspective.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    Guys I honestly didn't want to offend anyone I should have thought more about my wording, I simply wanted to share something I read and ask peoples thoughts,

    I really do apologies for upsetting anyone :( I feel like I have caused a lot of pain and trouble, which was never my intention.

    while I did originally find the title offensive, as it looks to be the making of body shaming, I do get that we are all human and make mistakes. Clearly it was not your intention to do that, so apology accepted. :bigsmile:
  • Danger2OneSelf
    Danger2OneSelf Posts: 883 Member
    I just told my boyfriend about this, his response? "Why don't you guys just try the *kitten* on" Lol, a mans perspective.

    Tell him only a genius can be so dumb