Gear Question for serious runners? Nike + GPS or Garmin?
bubbaduts
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I wear Nike shoes and use my nike plus with my phone but i would like to not have to bring my phone on every run which is why i am looking at the nike plus its cheaper than the garmin... but i want some opinions on people who own them
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I use an app on my phone. Never used a Garmin, but people love them. I did, however, get in to the Kickstart for a new product called Bia. It should be released late summer this year. I think I'll like it (and am hoping to be selected to beta test it).
Check it out: http://www.bia-sport.com/0 -
I had one of the Nike GPS watches back when they first came out (which was maybe summer of 2011?) So take my experience with a grain of salt, as they may have fixed the bugs present in the first generation watch since then...my nike watch worked great for about a month, I absolutely loved it. Love how simple it was to use, loved how it looked, loved that it was Nike (Nike fan girl here) but like I said, after about four weeks the watch quit being recognized by my computer, so there was no way to upload or save any of my data, which was one reason I wanted the watch. Apparently, lots of people had this problem, there were forums and facebook groups all dedicated to the issue. Nike was very slow in figuring out what the problem was and getting us a fix. I eventually ended up returning the watch for a refund after waiting about 4 months for a fix. That was the nice thing, I bought directly from Nike and they didn't give me any problems at all when returning the watch, even though it was after the 3 month warranty.
Anyway, point of story, I would google and see if this issue is still a problem for people with the Nike gps watch. It's been a few years, so they may have fixed it.
I have also owned a Garmin (the old school computer on the wrist looking one) which I loved. My mom currently uses a garmin (the touch swivel model) which she hates. I currently have a Timex Run Trainer, which I do really like, except I just had to send it in to get repaired (the battery would no longer charge).
Moral of the story? I think they all have issues, like most electronic gadgets do. I would go with a price you are comfortable with that offers the features you want, and a company that has a good customer service reputation0 -
I like my Garmin FR70 but will use it in conjunction with my running apps. The FR70 doesn't have GPS. I like the Garmin's algorithm for calculating calories.0
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I have a garmin that has a shoe pod that tracks distance/pace/speed etc. I havent used it recently, but I loved using it. It also comes with HRM and chest strap to calculate calories burned. I LOVE it!0
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This is no help at all...but I use Nike+ on my phone and love it! My husband bought me an arm band that can fit the iphone with the case on it, so I don't have to take it in and out of the case.
Anyway, a friend of mine LOVES FitBit, but I'm still all about using my phone. Have you tried the NikeTrainingClub app? I downloaded it and haven't used it yet?0 -
I use a Garmin 610. It basically tracks everything distance, pace, avg. pace, elevation etc. etc. It also uploads all the info from your run to their website so you can view and compare runs. Haven't had any problems with it and i've been using it for almost a year. It works very well in wet conditions. Prior to owning the 610 i had a 405cx, it was a good unit except i did have issues with the bezel control on rain days. If you go Garmin I don't think you'd ever regret it.0
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I can't speak to the Nike app, because I have not used it, but I LOVE my Garmin. It is my biggest cheerleader! Here is just some of the info it gives you. This is from a run I did Saturday. It also gives you a map view of your run that can be changed to satellite view, too. It shows you graphs of elevation and heart rate. It is awesome! I also have the device on my bike that can be used in conjuction with the watch to track that info. Mine is the Garmin Forerunner 405. I have certainly gotten my money's worth from my Garmin.
Distance: 10.01 mi
Time: 1:34:43
Avg Pace: 9:28 min/mi
Avg Speed: 6.3 mph
Elevation Gain: 577 ft
Calories: 965 C
Details
Timing
Time: 1:34:43
Moving Time: 1:34:17
Elapsed Time: 1:34:44
Avg Speed: 6.3 mph
Avg Moving Speed: 6.4 mph
Max Speed: 8.4 mph
Avg Pace: 9:28 min/mi
Avg Moving Pace: 9:25 min/mi
Best Pace: 7:08 min/mi
SpeedPace
Elevation
Elevation Gain: 577 ft
Elevation Loss: 583 ft
Min Elevation: 229 ft
Max Elevation: 421 ft
Heart Rate
Avg HR: 160 bpm
Max HR: 170 bpm
Avg HR: 86 % of Max
Max HR: 92 % of Max
Avg HR: 4.7 z
Max HR: 5.2 z
What is Training Effect?Have you ever wondered what good your workout is doing? Training Effect measures the impact of exercise on your aerobic fitness. Using your heart rate, Training Effect tells you if the exercise you do is maintaining your current fitness level or improving it. With that information, you can vary your intensity to achieve your goals.
Training Effect is for all aerobic sports, all equipment and all healthy individuals.
Training Effect Scale
5.0 – Overreaching
4.0 – Highly Improving
3.0 – Improving
2.0 – Maintaining
1.0 – Minor0 -
had nike+, it worked for me but then had my phone upgraded....yhey so am able to use gps which is loads better....saying that, if i could i would go for garmin0
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I wear Nike shoes and use my nike plus with my phone but i would like to not have to bring my phone on every run which is why i am looking at the nike plus its cheaper than the garmin... but i want some opinions on people who own them
Found the Nike could be erratic on distance and sometimes was out by as much as 10% depending on the type of workout I was doing. It keeps track in general and provides decent feedback.
As a more serious runner I moved into a Garmin which provides more accurate readings but less verbal feedback.
I guess the big question for you is how serious do you want to be?0 -
I use a garmin watch with GPS0
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I have a garmin gps watch (the Forerunner 10) and really love it. It was only $130, so for me, reasonably priced.0
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I use both. Garmin watch for when I can't use my phone (Tough Mudder, rainy days, etc.) and then I use the app MapMyRun on my phone as well. MapMyRun allows you to upload Garmin data as well, so you can keep it all in one place! I'm not sure if Nike+ will allow you to upload your Garmin data on their website, but you might take a look at it.0
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I used to have a Garmin 405 and loved it, but the battery died and it's not user replaceable and the cost to get it replaced didn't make sense since my wife had an earlier Garmin and phone GPS systems were working just fine. That being said, I am slowing putting my toes back in to the market for a new watch so that I can better pace myself when running.0
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I'll be the lone Nke+ Sportwatch fan. I love mine...no issues.0
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To be perfectly honest the Nike is not even close to being on the same level as the Garmin. If you can afford the Garmin, then hands down that's what you should get. Nikes charge a lot for the brand but for what you actually get they're not comparable to other stuff in the same price bracket. Garmin and Suunto are the Rolls-Royce of HRMs/fitness monitors.0
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I should also add that I advise running with your phone anyway if possible, especially if you are running alone. I run at 5am when it is still dark and have taken 2 spills. I've never been seriously hurt, but not having a phone to call for help is not advisable.0
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I wear Nike shoes and use my nike plus with my phone but i would like to not have to bring my phone on every run which is why i am looking at the nike plus its cheaper than the garmin... but i want some opinions on people who own them
Found the Nike could be erratic on distance and sometimes was out by as much as 10% depending on the type of workout I was doing. It keeps track in general and provides decent feedback.
As a more serious runner I moved into a Garmin which provides more accurate readings but less verbal feedback.
I guess the big question for you is how serious do you want to be?
I am a long distance runner so accuracy is important to me. when training for a marathon last june i used the nike plus with my phone and i have a seperate watch for my HR. I am looking to combine gps and HRM together. The nike plus always said less distance than what it actually was but apparently the GPS in their watch is pretty good.0 -
I use the Endomondo app on my phone with a Zephyr heart rate monitor. Keeps all of my data in one spot and seems to be very accurate. Can also use it when doing other cardio (i.e. treadmill) when GPS will not work and keep track of calories burned.0
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I should also add that I advise running with your phone anyway if possible, especially if you are running alone. I run at 5am when it is still dark and have taken 2 spills. I've never been seriously hurt, but not having a phone to call for help is not advisable.
My husband is very into this with me he hates when i run trails without it. The main reason i want the watch is quite funny actually. I just purchased a shuffle for when i run 5k's so i dont have to take my phone which i carry in my fuel belt because i always get funny looks for wearing my fuelbelt to a 5k lol. But i still want to keep track of my runs when i do short runs too. I plan on doing at least a dozen 5k's this summer since i had no time to train for another marathon with getting over my torn meniscus0 -
I should also add that I advise running with your phone anyway if possible, especially if you are running alone. I run at 5am when it is still dark and have taken 2 spills. I've never been seriously hurt, but not having a phone to call for help is not advisable.
My husband is very into this with me he hates when i run trails without it. The main reason i want the watch is quite funny actually. I just purchased a shuffle for when i run 5k's so i dont have to take my phone which i carry in my fuel belt because i always get funny looks for wearing my fuelbelt to a 5k lol. But i still want to keep track of my runs when i do short runs too. I plan on doing at least a dozen 5k's this summer since i had no time to train for another marathon with getting over my torn meniscus
Definitely think that is a perfectly good reason for the watch. I run with a local group on Saturday mornings and never take my phone because I am surrounded by 10-15 people at all times. But anytime I run alone, I take my phone. I've even put it in a ziploc baggie when it was drizzling one morning and didn't use the ipod on it. Just wanted to make sure I had it in case of an emergency.0 -
Garmin fan here. Absolutely love it!!!0
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Nike sports watch for the accuracy, iPhone with the optional Nike app for the music. Anybody running alone should always carry their phone0
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I can't speak for Nike because I haven't used it, but I love my Garmin forerunner 210! I wear a backpack with a water bladder when I run, so I always bring my phone too, for safety. If I were in your shoes and I was happy with the Nike thing and it was only bringing the phone that bothered me... I personally would just keep it since I carry my phone every run and it doesn't bother me.0
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I don't own a cell phone - hate them. I use a Garmin 310xt for everything. It's got a "return home" feature that I've found invaluable. I've also used the map feature to track my way along preplanned but unmarked routes i run with my training group.
On the necessity of cell phones while running - remember 1990? I do, it was pretty awesome - lots of people happily running without cell phones (similar to the previous several thousand years). Now-a-days, all you need to do is plan your runs, learn first aid, don't be dumb, have a contingency plan. I've broken things 12 miles out into the middle of nowhere, I've sprained ankles in a country that didn't have paved roads (let alone hospitals), and I've lived and recovered to happily run another day - all without a cell phone in sight.
Though I've owned cell phones in the past, absolutely none of my stories end with "thank god I had a cell phone!" They instead end with "thank god I knew what to do!"0 -
I love my Nike Sports Watch. Does a great job on the treadmill (with the shoe pod) or out on the road (with the GPS). Uploads all my workout data and you get access to the Nike+ community so you can see how you compare to other people in your age/sex group. It also gives you splits which are helpful, along with elevation data, pace, calories, etc.
One thing I really like it that it allows you to tell it which shoe you used and it keeps track of your miles on each pair of running shoes. I guess this is really only helpful if you have a closet full of running shoes for various terrain but I find it useful. It also shows maps of other peoples runs so you can go explore other places to run.
Love it, never had a problem with it, highly recommend one.0 -
I bought and used a Nike + sport watch. Loved it and it worked great. I gave it to my wife and got myself a Garmin 310XT. My only complaint with the Nike is that it is only for running. You can't identify other activities (i.e. swimming, biking, hiking, walking, etc.).0
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I like my Garmin 405CX. I find as long as I lock the bezel before I start my run, I won't accidentally set something off during.
I don't carry a phone while running.0 -
I've had two Garmins in the past 8 years (one lost to puppy teeth the other at a race). I have always been a huge fan. I finally broke down and bought a second hand one.0
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I use a Garmin 310xt currently and love it! Garmin has gotten me through 5 marathons, 2 ironman triathlons, numerous shorter races and thousands of kilometers of training (swim, bike and run). Next week it will be with me through my first ultramarathon.
I know a lot of runners and consistently the best rated product is garmin.
Run Hard.
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Garmin hands down.
Biggest issue with Nike sports watch? It's a closed protocol. If you EVER want to use some software beyond Nike's software, you can't. You can't even get your own data out. Maybe it's changed lately, but that's how it used to be.
Garmin uses open protocols. So, depending on the watch, once it uploads to Garmin Connect, you can export the data and load it into mapmyrun, strava, Sporttracks, Training Peaks, etc. Strava and SportTracks will automatically download the data without having to go through the extra steps of exporting from Garmin Connect.
Garmin isn't the only game in town, but they are the biggest.
Timex and Polar also make nice running watches.
RE: communication protocols.
Garmin and Timex both use ANT+, which is open source, and there are tonnes of devices to use with the watches: HR straps, bike speed sensors, foot pods.
Polar uses the closed ANT protocol. You can only use Polar devices with the Polar watches.
Nike doesn't use either, it uses the dumb, and propriety, 2.4 gHz transmission (regular HRMs use 5 kHz, so you have to use Nike specific devices)
The open protocol devices (Timex, Garmin, Magellan, the probably discontinued Motorola) allow MUCH deeper analysis through the 3rd party software suites (Timex uses Training Peaks though, and it's very popular).0
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