Coconut Oil Help?

Pardon my intrusion - long time mFP user, just not active recently, and having been through the nutritional wringer on this subject myself (I poured over ALL of the research for many years, and especially recently after I went through with my VSG)

A few things here that I feel the need to point out.

HDL/LDL - there's nothing good or bad about one or the other. It's the ratio you that you should be most concerned about. As long as someone's LDL is proportionate to their HDL, it's fine. It just means that these PROTEINS are doing their job by providing and scooping up the cholesterol in your blood stream.

While the ratio is important, there is something bad about LDL and vLDL. The fact that it's bad is why the ratio is important. LDL causes clogged arteries. HDL prevents it. This is why one is refered to as "bad" and the other "good".

Cholesterol - It's not the evil thing people are brainwashed into thinking it is. As a matter of fact, no woman should ever take statins to lower cholesterol, unless of course they don't want to live a long life. Men are another story - I still don't believe they should take statins anyway. Cholesterol is VITAL to our organs, cells, lymph, you name it. If it wasn't so desperately needed by our bodies, why then do the vast majority of our cells have the ability to manufacture cholesterol as needed?

While I agree that statins are over-prescribed in this country and the side effects largely ignored, saying that no woman should ever take them is ridiculous. If a woman is not going to make an effort to control blood cholesterol levels with diet and lifestyle, statins may prolong her life. But diet and lifestyle should always be the preference for any person, regarless of gender. Unfortunately, most people would rather take the med, than make the effort to change their lifestyle. Side effects don't always outway the good in a med.

Saturated Fats, especially those in coconut oil, clarified Ghee and lard are HEALTHY. Don't let anyone in the medical industry tell you otherwise.

Not true. Saturated fats from animal sources have a worse affect on blood cholesterol levels than from vegetable sources. Grouping coconut oil and lard together is silly. There is plenty of research to back this up.

Even physicians today are misinformed. Don't believe everything people tell you - real life, on these forums or otherwise. Do the research. Start with good sources. Weston A Price has some good stuff on the subject. As do many reputable doctors online. The overwhelming truths that are available are what swayed me. When everyone who was against "big medicine" was saying one thing, it got me thinking. So I tried it. The blood panel is just one of many recently that were markedly improved. Best of all, My attitude kicks butt now. When I avoided fats, saturated or otherwise, I was a depressed moody SOB who couldn't build muscle either.

Don't believe doctors, except reputable doctors online. Here's a link.?? Don't believe what doctors and other people tell you, believe my personal example?? I switched from low fat to a diet that includes fat so that proves saturated fat is good??? :huh:

I am currently working with a Mental Health group on a project re" Alzheimer's and no one in that group has heard of evidence that coconut oil can slow it. Where did you see or hear of this evidence?

There's one story of a doctor that gave her husband a daily dose of coconut oil. His cognitive functions improved, seemingly halting the progression of his Alzheimer's disease. This same story is cut, pasted and repeated all over the internet.

There haven't been any studies to show the benefits or lack thereof consuming coconut oil. Who knows if it's actually beneficial?

I am currently working with a Mental Health group on a project re" Alzheimer's and no one in that group has heard of evidence that coconut oil can slow it. Where did you see or hear of this evidence?

There's one story of a doctor that gave her husband a daily dose of coconut oil. His cognitive functions improved, seemingly halting the progression of his Alzheimer's disease. This same story is cut, pasted and repeated all over the internet.

There haven't been any studies to show the benefits (or lack thereof) of consuming coconut oil. Who knows if it's actually beneficial?

wait you still believe saturated fats are bad?

Without debating the semantics of "bad", my answer is yes and no. I believe saturated fats from dairy and red meat are "bad". By that I mean they are fats that it's better to eat less rather than more of. But, no. I do not believe all saturated fats are "bad".

I use the coconut oil spray instead of olive oil. The only thing I don't like about it is you can taste coconut in everything you cook, and I'm not a coconut fan. However, it helps with the thyroid, so it boosts metabolism and it helps control blood sugars by improving insulin use in the body.

Just an FYI. I do not come here to debate or argue or get into a pissing match. Anyone who has access to a search engine may go look for their own research. I tire of posting a research link just to have the one demanding proof to poo-poo the source. The fact is that once someone has it in their head that someone else is wrong, there is no source good enough. You are welcome to post your research links proving me wrong. Happy hunting.

Well when you show up in a thread and try to claim some nonsense contrary to all actual evidence, expect people to call you on it and tell you that it's nonsense.

I am afraid to ask.. but I will :embarassed: Do you guys log the coconut oil in your diary or not... like if I add it too cook food and am using it to cook with or putting a wee in my coffee... and I count it.. it seems like it is hard to stay under my fat limit.. is this a fat that should be logged? (I usually log everything and try to keep all my "fats" "good" fats... but am confused now...:sad: