Never be full, never be hungry...what do you think?

AngieM76 · April 2013

I tried something different today. I am always hungry at work. Always. So today I took everything in my diary and ate one thing every hour I am here. It has worked with my hunger. of course it seems like I am eating all day long and I guess I am lol. but on mondays and tuesdays I am literally at work for all 3 meals and snacks.

karagreeves · April 2013

My lecturer at uni (im nursing) said that keeping steady levels of glucose is much better for your body and energy levels than peaks. So i would have to agree with the eating every 3 hours idea. im actually doing something similar; eating at 6, 10, 2, 6, ( so every 4 hrs) and i never seem to be too hungry xx

sullus · April 2013

My lecturer at uni (im nursing) said that keeping steady levels of glucose is much better for your body and energy levels than peaks. So i would have to agree with the eating every 3 hours idea. im actually doing something similar; eating at 6, 10, 2, 6, ( so every 4 hrs) and i never seem to be too hungry xx

Glucose levels stay pretty level even if you don't eat.

sijomial · April 2013

Interesting that as the time between eating for the general population has decreased obesity has increased....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20237134

For me it wouldn't work - I would simply eat more over the course of a day and be less likely to make good choices.

karagreeves · April 2013

Your blood glucose levels begin to rise within 15 minutes after you start eating a meal and, depending on the type of food and the size of the meal, will peak within around 30 to 45 minutes, says Jennie Brandt, Ph.D., author of "The New Glucose Revolution What Makes My Blood Glucose Go Up . . . and Down?" By three to four hours after your meal, your blood sugar should be back down to the level it was before you started eating. This is known as the fasting level. If you are diabetic, you can expect your blood sugar level to peak a bit later, about an hour after you start eating, and to take longer to return to a fasting level.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/448193-how-long-after-eating-does-blood-sugar-peak/#ixzz2REJnl1D5

SteelySunshine · April 2013

I tried the more frequent meals. I just kept eating more and more at each meal until I was eating nearly normal sized meals 6 times a day. I cut my calories considerably by upping the amount of calories per meal and cutting down to three meals a day.

mistesh · April 2013

By three to four hours after your meal, your blood sugar should be back down to the level it was before you started eating. This is known as the fasting level.

You may be interested in the graph in the following article. Keep in mind that when digestion has completed and you enter fasting, people who eat processed food may experience withdrawal at this time, which they could interpret as hunger. It's not hunger. And of course if they eat then, it's right back on the blood sugar and insulin roller coaster.

How Blood Sugar Works
http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/19060174.php

psuLemon · April 2013

Here is the science. If anything, it's about personal satiety.

The study says no such thing. If I have overlooked something, please let us know!

I like more frequent meals, some dont.

Could it be that withdrawal following digestion of processed food feels like hunger to you?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985

He meant here's the science about it not mattering. The "it's about personal satiety" part was, in my reading, his opinion.

Pretty much this. Meal frequency does not matter when it comes to weight loss. Also, it's difficult to compare a normal/average person to a body builder. Body builders have to eat 2-3 times the amount of calories.

psuLemon · April 2013

btw, why are we trying to over complicate things with talking about insulin spike? Keep it simple.. you can either eat 2 meals or 10 meals, but have been proven to work in terms of weight loss (interim fasting vs conventional weight loss). And realistically, unless you are diabetic or have a medical condition, insulin will not affect weight loss.

sunshyncatra · April 2013

Try it and see if it works for you! If not, try something else

I've never been able to go more than four hours without food. Now I'm eating as often, but making healthier choices with smaller portion sizes.

artickb22 · April 2013

You just gotta play around and find what works for you, everybodys different.

Bettyeditor · April 2013

I heard that from a bodybuilder. He said to eat every 3 hours a healthy snack and small meals. He said and going to drop all the undesired weight, my blood sugar stabilize and I wont crave sugary treats.

what do you think?:huh:

I don't think that everyone needs to eat every 2-3 hours, but I do think that a lot of people would benefit from it. It depends on a lot of factors. For me, I beat diabetes and lost 70 pounds eating every 2-3 hours and I was NEVER hungry the whole time I lost weight. I do think this part is true for everyone: If you are so ravenously hungry and overwhelmed with cravings, then you are doing it wrong.

I still eat every 2-3 hours, just to ensure that I never get diabetes again, because I enjoy never being hungry, because its easier on my digestion, and because it feels so darn indulgent to be constantly eating and never gain weight! :glasses:

shirleygirl910 · April 2013

I found that when I eat a bunch of small meals, I have a habit of eating all day long. (Bad Habit for me!!) I use to plan my whole day and since I was at work for everything but dinner, I packed everything and couldn't eat more, because there wasn't any. Sounds good right?! No!! I was in the mode of shoving things in mindlessly into my mouth. I've lost 110 lbs, I don't want bad habits that will cause me to reverse this weight loss. I now plan my day and eat two large meals, breakfast and lunch and one to two small meals, dinner and snack.

This is what I found for me personally, it's taken 3 years to figure out. I kept telling the doctor I couldn't go so long between eating, but he was right. It was a head game. It comes down to calories in calories out.

mistesh · April 2013

Pretty much this. Meal frequency does not matter when it comes to weight loss. Also, it's difficult to compare a normal/average person to a body builder. Body builders have to eat 2-3 times the amount of calories.

btw, why are we trying to over complicate things with talking about insulin spike? Keep it simple.. you can either eat 2 meals or 10 meals, but have been proven to work in terms of weight loss (interim fasting vs conventional weight loss). And realistically, unless you are diabetic or have a medical condition, insulin will not affect weight loss.

If I eat a Carls' Jr. Charbroiled Atlantic Cod Fish sandwich like I mean it and do so floating weightlessly while traveling in outer space, would that affect my weight loss? What if there's a full size poster of noted swimsuit wearer Nina Agdal on a wall in the spaceship's padded cell, lol?

theCarlton · April 2013

This is naturally the pattern I eat in, so I've found it's better when I'm in a calorie deficit that I maintain that. I'm definitely better at maintaining my weight when I'm not eating larger meals that don't really sustain me until the next one.

djc315 · April 2013

Personally I do better by spreading my eating out. I can eat 800 calories at lunch or 300 calories at lunch and either way, in a few hours I am hungry again. It is probably all in my head, I should be able to last longer on 800 calories compared to 300, but right now this is what is working for me.

Do what works best for you.

quirkytizzy · April 2013

Pretty much this. Meal frequency does not matter when it comes to weight loss. Also, it's difficult to compare a normal/average person to a body builder. Body builders have to eat 2-3 times the amount of calories.

btw, why are we trying to over complicate things with talking about insulin spike? Keep it simple.. you can either eat 2 meals or 10 meals, but have been proven to work in terms of weight loss (interim fasting vs conventional weight loss). And realistically, unless you are diabetic or have a medical condition, insulin will not affect weight loss.

If I eat a Carls' Jr. Charbroiled Atlantic Cod Fish sandwich like I mean it and do so floating weightlessly while traveling in outer space, would that affect my weight loss? What if there's a full size poster of noted swimsuit wearer Nina Agdal on a wall in the spaceship's padded cell, lol?

I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with meal timing, but either way, I like your response.

volume77 · April 2013

mistesh · April 2013

Meal frequency does not matter when it comes to weight loss.

Thank you for your feedback. My apologies for getting giddy last night; my willpower had run out of juice.

This morning I ran into a couple of articles, (a) and (b), which, along with references, have been touched on in the mfp forums; I have quoted three for particular attention.

(a) 5 Simple Steps to Burn Fat without Eating Less
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/07/11/5-simple-steps-to-burn-fat-without-eating-less-2/

(i) Beneficial metabolic effects of regular meal frequency on dietary thermogenesis, insulin sensitivity, and fasting lipid profiles in healthy obese women.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15640455?dopt=AbstractPlus

Nutrtion Facts !! YOU MUST READ THIS! imondrugz
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/853893-nutrtion-facts-you-must-read-this?page=1#posts-12824642

"The results suggest that low energy density intake during any portion of the day can reduce overall intake, that intake in the morning is particularly satiating and can reduce the total amount ingested for the day, and that intake in the late night lacks satiating value and can result in greater overall daily intake."

(ii) The time of day of food intake influences overall intake in humans.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14704301?dopt=AbstractPlus

Couldn't find any mfp post referencing this one!

(iii) Weight loss is greater with consumption of large morning meals and fat-free mass is preserved with large evening meals in women on a controlled weight reduction regimen.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9040548?dopt=AbstractPlus

Calling BS on the starvation mode (plz no E/D rants) JossFit
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/921539-calling-bs-on-the-starvation-mode-plz-no-e-d-rants?page=4#posts-13999579

eating most fo your calories early in the day Vaisaxena
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/880746-eating-most-fo-your-calories-early-in-the-day?page=1#posts-13299059

Metabolism Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/803894-metabolism?page=1#posts-12016938

To eat or not to eat? Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/802606-to-eat-or-not-to-eat?page=3#posts-11999380

is skipping a meal bad or okay? Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/798008-is-skipping-a-meal-bad-or-okay?page=3#posts-11929200

Is this myth about eating late at night true.... Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/793556-is-this-myth-about-eating-late-at-night-true?page=3#posts-11875324

Does to help to not eat after 6 pm? Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/665819-does-to-help-to-not-eat-after-6-pm?#posts-9689095

"And according to that study, you lose weight better by eating more in the morning, but maintain muscle better by eating in the evening."

Two meals a day benefits lizaiza79
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/647109-two-meals-a-day-benefits?page=1#posts-9378028

Do NOT skip out on a meal! Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/645086-do-not-skip-out-on-a-meal?page=2#posts-9343475

Bonus calories are killing me HeLp! Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/589191-bonus-calories-are-killing-me-help?#posts-8419601

(b) Effects of Meal Frequency on Metabolic Profiles and Substrate Partitioning in Lean Healthy Males
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0038632

"RMR and appetite control increased in the LFr (Low meal Frequency) diet, which can be relevant for body weight control on the long term."

RMR slows on eating frequently yarwell
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/725570-rmr-slows-on-eating-frequently?#posts-10686464

psuLemon · April 2013

Meal frequency does not matter when it comes to weight loss.

Thank you for your feedback. My apologies for getting giddy last night; my willpower had run out of juice.

This morning I ran into a couple of articles, (a) and (b), which, along with references, have been touched on in the mfp forums; I have quoted three for particular attention.

(a) 5 Simple Steps to Burn Fat without Eating Less
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/07/11/5-simple-steps-to-burn-fat-without-eating-less-2/

(i) Beneficial metabolic effects of regular meal frequency on dietary thermogenesis, insulin sensitivity, and fasting lipid profiles in healthy obese women.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15640455?dopt=AbstractPlus

Nutrtion Facts !! YOU MUST READ THIS! imondrugz
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/853893-nutrtion-facts-you-must-read-this?page=1#posts-12824642

"The results suggest that low energy density intake during any portion of the day can reduce overall intake, that intake in the morning is particularly satiating and can reduce the total amount ingested for the day, and that intake in the late night lacks satiating value and can result in greater overall daily intake."

(ii) The time of day of food intake influences overall intake in humans.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14704301?dopt=AbstractPlus

Couldn't find any mfp post referencing this one!

(iii) Weight loss is greater with consumption of large morning meals and fat-free mass is preserved with large evening meals in women on a controlled weight reduction regimen.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9040548?dopt=AbstractPlus

Calling BS on the starvation mode (plz no E/D rants) JossFit
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/921539-calling-bs-on-the-starvation-mode-plz-no-e-d-rants?page=4#posts-13999579

eating most fo your calories early in the day Vaisaxena
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/880746-eating-most-fo-your-calories-early-in-the-day?page=1#posts-13299059

Metabolism Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/803894-metabolism?page=1#posts-12016938

To eat or not to eat? Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/802606-to-eat-or-not-to-eat?page=3#posts-11999380

is skipping a meal bad or okay? Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/798008-is-skipping-a-meal-bad-or-okay?page=3#posts-11929200

Is this myth about eating late at night true.... Sarauk2sf
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/793556-is-this-myth-about-eating-late-at-night-true?page=3#posts-11875324

Does to help to not eat after 6 pm? Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/665819-does-to-help-to-not-eat-after-6-pm?#posts-9689095

"And according to that study, you lose weight better by eating more in the morning, but maintain muscle better by eating in the evening."

Two meals a day benefits lizaiza79
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/647109-two-meals-a-day-benefits?page=1#posts-9378028

Do NOT skip out on a meal! Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/645086-do-not-skip-out-on-a-meal?page=2#posts-9343475

Bonus calories are killing me HeLp! Sidesteal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/589191-bonus-calories-are-killing-me-help?#posts-8419601

(b) Effects of Meal Frequency on Metabolic Profiles and Substrate Partitioning in Lean Healthy Males
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0038632

"RMR and appetite control increased in the LFr (Low meal Frequency) diet, which can be relevant for body weight control on the long term."

RMR slows on eating frequently yarwell
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/725570-rmr-slows-on-eating-frequently?#posts-10686464

So are you trying to disagree with me or agree with me?

It's rather simple, if calories are held constant, meal frequency and timing have zero effect on weight loss. On satiety and sleep quality, it can vary.

Never be full, never be hungry...what do you think?

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