Women + press ups
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I have been strength training for years I started doing push-ups regularly a few months ago and my arms look better than EVER (try the hundredpushups.com program; I built strength very fast on this program). Stick with them and graduate to the on the toes version when you can. You will love what they will do for your arms! Good luck
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For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
^^^ this
and you can progress from regular push-ups to more advanced push-ups if it''s strength gains you're after. They're a great exercise with so many varieties there's at least one for almost everyone, from wall push-ups to really crazy stuff like backflip burpee push-ups.0 -
the post is about a woman wanting to do press ups to tone up and get strong. which press ups are perfect for as a beginner
what does the word 'tone' even mean? Stop using it, you're refering to someone who wants to lower their BF%.
You won't get strong from doing press ups. you'll get good at doing press ups. to get strong you need to progressively overload your muscles and stay in the correct rep range for strength training.
There is nothing wrong with press ups, i do them. but they are not a great chest builder, nor a strength builder.rugby players?!?! seriously.... for a start rugby players are enormous naturally, you don't get to that size at 21 - 24 without being naturally big. as for my frame... well... i'm 6'4 and 190 so i'm doing alright, that picture was a couple of years ago, and i run 100m quite quick thanks lol but well done for breaking the rules in your first post
How on earth are they enormous naturally? Jason Robinson is 5ft 8' and around 190lb. He wasn't born at that weight with that much muscle. Anyone can get to that size by 21-24. the 'must be naturally big' excuse is wheeled out by the uniformed people who have no idea how to put together a decent strength and size routine.to build on that body builders are different to rugby players one is size, power and stamina the other is purely focused on ORM maybe 10 reps at a lower weight in comp. the difference being one is a tiny man being big the other is a big man being fit, simple.
again, you're looking like an idiot. bodybuilders don't lift anything during a comp, they pose on stage. Rugby players train to be good at rugby, and body builders train to look symetrical. stop comparing the two. i only mentioned rugby players to completely pwn your assertion that big muscles 'dont do anything'.the army ENTRY level of fitness is 50 in 2 mins yeah but this is worked on to build peak physical fitness with... press ups as well as other things.
90% of the time spent in the army is spent sat on a base. how on earth do you think that is the peak of physical fitness. they are probably fitter than the average male in society, but look around you; it's hardly much of a comparison is it.i don't really feel the need to question myself as a man by the size of my muscles... well maybe one and he's definitely big enough lol... sounds like you got some making up to do...? i can't see any other reason to stoop to such a pathetic level of trying to take away another blokes dignity by making out he's not manly, yeah definitely little **** syndrome that
HEH! this is another of the excuses wheeled out by the insecure. that anyone training harder than them 'has some making up to do'. I'm actually lighter than you and not as tall. I'm willing to be i'm stronger, faster, fitter and have a lower BF% than you. From a fitness and lifting perspective you've achieved very little (as have I), but that isn't an excuse to go around giving people crappy advice.
I bet these are some other things you tell people:
[regarding a bodybuilder] "yeah, but it all turns to fat when they stop training"
"muscle weighs more than fat"
"higher rep, lower weight gets you 'toned'"
"i don't want to 'get big', women don't like that"
"don't eat carbs after 7pm or you'll get fat"
to tone, not to build massive muscle just a bit and get lean or yeah lower bf%
i disagree, press ups are basically a bench press, people do bench press' to get strong, once you reach the plateu of your weight vs strength it then becomes defunct as a muscle builder, women by natural build and how they gain muscle can do less than men, be offended if you must for them but it's common fact, hence why women have different competions in the olympics to men, i don't see where the offence is?
ok.... most rugby players are naturally big: Thomas Waldrom for example
you're quite right body builders do stand there a flex, i was thinking more of the strong man / body builder type
big muscles doing nothing is in reference to stamina not that they lift nothing
90% of the time sat in a base and required to train
and no i didn't say that because you're training harder than me you have small **** the fact you need belittle others as a result of this is why you have a little ****, my bf% is 12%, you probably are fitter than me hence my own admission of not being able to 50 in 2 and you feeling this is easy would show that, idk if you're stronger than me, i don't compare to others i go by my own gains which i'm very happy with
doing press ups is a brilliant way to start an excersize regime, it's not crappy advice at all
i do want to get big, but not massive, i guess that depends on your opinion of big is and what women see as too big
muscle and fat weight the same they sit on the body differently which is why one appears bigger than the other
i eat 1500 calories for dinner every night at around 8pm and if i felt hungry at 10 pm i'd stuff my face till i was content
high rep, low weight wastes time and energy
body builders get fat because they continue to eat the calories they feel they need having been a big size and not training to expend the energy0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
quite easily. you start with an empty bar and add weight. it's just a debate, try not to get too worried about two people with a difference of opinion.0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
quite easily. you start with an empty bar and add weight. it's just a debate, try not to get too worried about two people with a difference of opinion.
Youre hijacking someone elses thread, if you're that bothered take it to PM.0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
quite easily. you start with an empty bar and add weight. it's just a debate, try not to get too worried about two people with a difference of opinion.
it's not a difference of opinion it's a difference of experience, you're a self confessed weight lifter and have had good gains and doling out advice fit for you for a woman who is a beginner and telling her a press up she said herself couldn't or couyld just about do 5 at the start of her regime isn't going to give her good gains, and that's simply not true
when i first started i couldn't do 10 press ups, my chest was basically non existent, from doing press ups and chest flies of 5kg a side i saw my chest go from nothing to something noticable, when i first started press ups my chest would ache for two days at doing my max resting for 3 mins and doing 1/2 sets of this to say you wont see any muscle gains from doing press ups as a beginner is complete BS and you either lack the memory to remember as a beginner or started at a higher level to not know, either or you're wrong0 -
I've recently started doing press ups as part of my exercise routine. The ladies type ones on your knees, not the full men type ones as I'm not strong enough yet. I'm doing an extra 5 per night to keep getting better. I just wanted to ask if these are actually beneficial to women or are they best left to the men for chest building? If you do think hell yeah women should do them, can you let me know what they work?
I am very excited to be honest cos I never thought I could do a press up but now doing sets with reps of 10 Let me know your thoughts! Xx
Like voting, having a successful career, or refusing to make sammiches, pushups is just one of those things that women shouldn't be doing.right first off, that website has no credibility, no nothing infact, other than info, second this a woman, not a body builder, third IF you can knock out 20, 30, 40 then you're not a beginner, if you can just about manage ten that is a decent weight lift regime, fourth not everyone is looking to just build bulky muscles that do nothing, most are looking for genuine strength and toned muscles, especially women
last and most definitely not least, if a press up wasn't important why on earth do the army train their soldiers to do press ups? stamina and strength go hand in hand in the real world not just to brag you can lift a heavy weight once and collapse on the floor.....
It's funny when weak people try to talk about stamina as an excuse for being...well...weak. Like somehow lifting an ACTUAL weight is going to take away their ability to carry a backpack for more than 15 seconds. Further, the army has pushups as part of their required physical training regime because it's an activity accessible by anyone, anywhere. The idea being that they need to be able to do PT anywhere, and there might not be a gym nearby.0 -
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Push-ups work your entire core, not just your pecs and triceps. So yeah, keep doing them. One way to build up from knee push-ups to the classic variety is to practice planks to strengthen your back and ab muscles.0
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It's funny when weak people try to talk about stamina as an excuse for being...well...weak. Like somehow lifting an ACTUAL weight is going to take away their ability to carry a backpack for more than 15 seconds. Further, the army has pushups as part of their required physical training regime because it's an activity accessible by anyone, anywhere. The idea being that they need to be able to do PT anywhere, and there might not be a gym nearby.
i'm not weak?0 -
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The other thing you can try is a fist push-up (a.k.a. knuckle push-up), if you have wrist pain from the regular ones. They don't stress your wrists as much because they are not flexing. They are surprisingly easy--you see martial artists doing them because they help you punch things better, but I'm a girl and I can do 10 of them easily.0 -
It's funny when weak people try to talk about stamina as an excuse for being...well...weak. Like somehow lifting an ACTUAL weight is going to take away their ability to carry a backpack for more than 15 seconds. Further, the army has pushups as part of their required physical training regime because it's an activity accessible by anyone, anywhere. The idea being that they need to be able to do PT anywhere, and there might not be a gym nearby.
i'm not weak?
And people who lift aren't just trying to build bulky muscles that do nothing.0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
Seriously, this. LOL.
To the OP, train the negative portion of the press up--it works wonders! To do this, get into press up position (guy style, up on your toes instead of your knees), lower yourself to the ground as slowly as possible. Then, put your knees down and press yourself back up. Rinse and repeat. Works GREAT!
I love push ups, press ups, whatever you want to call them. Bodyweight exercises are fantastic for both men and women. No, push ups or press ups will not make you "bulky". They will make you stronger, though!
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It's funny when weak people try to talk about stamina as an excuse for being...well...weak. Like somehow lifting an ACTUAL weight is going to take away their ability to carry a backpack for more than 15 seconds. Further, the army has pushups as part of their required physical training regime because it's an activity accessible by anyone, anywhere. The idea being that they need to be able to do PT anywhere, and there might not be a gym nearby.
i'm not weak?
And people who lift aren't just trying to build bulky muscles that do nothing.
which is exactly what i said?0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
Seriously, this. LOL.
To the OP, train the negative portion of the press up--it works wonders! To do this, get into press up position (guy style, up on your toes instead of your knees), lower yourself to the ground as slowly as possible. Then, put your knees down and press yourself back up. Rinse and repeat. Works GREAT!
I love push ups, press ups, whatever you want to call them. Bodyweight exercises are fantastic for both men and women. No, push ups or press ups will not make you "bulky". They will make you stronger, though!
Enjoy.
But I like whipping it out...
This is a good point. I do think if you have any intention of progressing into weight lifting you should be doing bench press and the like as well, but there's certainly nothing wrong with pushups. I do lots. Variations are nice too, as well as working towards a one arm pushup (though depending on how many you can do that may or may not be a long way off).0 -
They are good for women too as they work your pectoral muscles - which help keep your "girls" from bumping on your knees.:laugh:
Hahahaha! Bump!0 -
You could start with planks as well - that will build up your core and, if you start out on your elbows, your poor wrists won't suffer.0
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The other thing you can try is a fist push-up (a.k.a. knuckle push-up), if you have wrist pain from the regular ones. They don't stress your wrists as much because they are not flexing. They are surprisingly easy--you see martial artists doing them because they help you punch things better, but I'm a girl and I can do 10 of them easily.
Good tip, thanks for that! I've problems with tendonitis in both arms, (thankfully not usually at the same time!) and I find push-ups hard. The added bend at my wrist when I push-up seems to agravate it more so I'll definitely give this a go when I get home tonight (I work in a glass office, people here think I'm weird enough
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The other thing you can try is a fist push-up (a.k.a. knuckle push-up), if you have wrist pain from the regular ones. They don't stress your wrists as much because they are not flexing. They are surprisingly easy--you see martial artists doing them because they help you punch things better, but I'm a girl and I can do 10 of them easily.
Good tip, thanks for that! I've problems with tendonitis in both arms, (thankfully not usually at the same time!) and I find push-ups hard. The added bend at my wrist when I push-up seems to agravate it more so I'll definitely give this a go when I get home tonight (I work in a glass office, people here think I'm weird enough )
It's not pushups, but I find reverse grip benching reduces wrist strain tremendously. Be careful though, it's called suicide grip for a reason.0 -
I'd like to add that there seems to be some kind of weird suggestion here that you cant do bodyweight exercises and lift weights at the same time. Like they somehow don't complement each other. I lift heavy, I also do pushups, pullups, ring rows, etc. Its like saying you cant have apples AND pears ....well, they go bloody well together in a fruit salad.0
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I'd like to add that there seems to be some kind of weird suggestion here that you cant do bodyweight exercises and lift weights at the same time. Like they somehow don't complement each other. I lift heavy, I also do pushups, pullups, ring rows, etc. Its like saying you cant have apples AND pears ....well, they go bloody well together in a fruit salad.
a very good point, for chest, flies are great too0 -
at the risk of seeming logical...
if the weight you are moving pushes your muscles to their limit, you will grow bigger muscles.
your muscles don't pop their heads out to see what it is that you're lifting.
the only difference between weights and any other exercise is that you can easily pick up a bigger weight to keep the muscles growing once they reach the size they need to be to cope with the previous weight.
press ups will increase the size of your pecs & arm muscles. to a point.
running will increase the size of yout butt & leg muscles. to a point.
and it you're happy to stop at that point, the sky still won't fall.0 -
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The other thing you can try is a fist push-up (a.k.a. knuckle push-up), if you have wrist pain from the regular ones. They don't stress your wrists as much because they are not flexing. They are surprisingly easy--you see martial artists doing them because they help you punch things better, but I'm a girl and I can do 10 of them easily.
Good tip, thanks for that! I've problems with tendonitis in both arms, (thankfully not usually at the same time!) and I find push-ups hard. The added bend at my wrist when I push-up seems to agravate it more so I'll definitely give this a go when I get home tonight (I work in a glass office, people here think I'm weird enough )
I would totally do knuckle push-ups in a glass office make those colleagues respect you more! 0 -
They're a great compound exercise, especially since you can do them anywhere. As a bodyweight exercise, they're versatile for scaling (making easier or more difficult).
I'd suggest giving up doing them on your knees though...you're not doing yourself any favors.
I started out trying to do one and instead, just sunk to the floor. That was last year. Today, I'm about to start doing elevated ones (with my feet on a stool).
This is how I got there:
3-4 sets of 10 reps: Incline press/push ups - put your hands on a bench. Do all 10 reps even if you can't lower yourself fully to the bench. If this is too hard, start with doing them against a wall instead of a bench.
When that gets easy, move to a lower bench or the floor and repeat
When that gets easy, start doing close grip push/press ups or elevated (feet on an object)
Some other variations: planche, one arm, maltese, the list goes on and on
I used to do them 2-3x a week but now I'm doing them 1-2x a week with the You Are Your Own Gym 10 week basic workout plan.
Why do I do them? Because they help make my chest, arms and shoulders look awesome. And I like being functionally strong.0 -
For gods sake boys, put your d**ks away and stop arguing. Pushups are great for building strength, how on earth are you meant to get better at things LIKE bench press if you cant push your own weight off the ground. They will not give you the crazy pec muscles that benching 100kg will, but they will help strengthen that general area and keep it looking nice if you have a low enough BF%. Now stop.
quite easily. you start with an empty bar and add weight. it's just a debate, try not to get too worried about two people with a difference of opinion.
Youre hijacking someone elses thread, if you're that bothered take it to PM.
LOLOLOLOLOL you asked me how someone is supposed to get better at benching. the answer is by benching. I'm not hijacking anything.0 -
I'm so worried about what I've started with the boys above! Lol. My apologies to everyone who's has to read it. But thanks for all your brilliant tips.
Newcs, why would you give up doing them on my knees? In my eyes, I'm only doing them like that until my arms are strong enough to support my whole body. Then I'll try big boy ones hehe x 0 -
a good one to progress this quicker is to do as many big boy ones as possible then move to knees and max that out, rest and repeat, you're correct for going at your own pace though, everyone starts somewhere and it depends on your initial strengthI'm so worried about what I've started with the boys above! Lol. My apologies to everyone who's has to read it. But thanks for all your brilliant tips.
Newcs, why would you give up doing them on my knees? In my eyes, I'm only doing them like that until my arms are strong enough to support my whole body. Then I'll try big boy ones hehe x
form is everything though so when i say max out i mean with correct form0 -
If you can only do knee push-ups, that's not a bad place to start. Work up to, say, 3 sets of 10 reps, then switch to the full push-ups. Knee push-ups and incline push-ups (where your hands are on a surface above your toes) are just two beginner variations. Some people believe that incline push-ups are better for getting the form down. I'm not convinced--I think there are many "right" ways to train for push-ups.
And they really are some of the best exercise out there for building *functional* strength. Once you master push-ups, you'll never be that girl that cannot open a heavy door.0 -
I push up on hex dumbbells when I have sore wrists, stops your knuckles hurting too! Don't use round ones, you'll roll away :laugh:[ignores the drama above]
The other thing you can try is a fist push-up (a.k.a. knuckle push-up), if you have wrist pain from the regular ones. They don't stress your wrists as much because they are not flexing. They are surprisingly easy--you see martial artists doing them because they help you punch things better, but I'm a girl and I can do 10 of them easily.
Good tip, thanks for that! I've problems with tendonitis in both arms, (thankfully not usually at the same time!) and I find push-ups hard. The added bend at my wrist when I push-up seems to agravate it more so I'll definitely give this a go when I get home tonight (I work in a glass office, people here think I'm weird enough )0 -
I'd like to add that there seems to be some kind of weird suggestion here that you cant do bodyweight exercises and lift weights at the same time. Like they somehow don't complement each other. I lift heavy, I also do pushups, pullups, ring rows, etc. Its like saying you cant have apples AND pears ....well, they go bloody well together in a fruit salad.
totally this. I do both as well. sometimes in the same workouts, sometimes in their own workouts all to themselves. I like variety. Push ups and bench press compliment each other nicely just like pendlay rows and inverted rows do0
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