Guys ALWAYS say "confidence matters" LOL.

Well, what if you guys get a hot girl in the sack and she's obsessing over her looks... as if she's not hot enough (or skinny enough). You're thinking in your head, "WTF is wrong with this girl? Where's her confidence?" Are you not?

So is it safe to say that a girl can be hella hott, but her lack of confidence would turn you off at some point?

So what if the butterface is good in bed and confident as hell with her sexuality, wouldn't you rather get with her and over time her butterface wouldn't matter as much?

LOL

ETA: sorry, I made it all about sex. But isn't that the meat and potatoes of attraction? The ultimate goal? I agree. Everyone should be nice. Not everyone has the same requirements for attraction, but it does matter.

I don't know what appeals to men. They don't hit on me very often.

Yeah right. Pull this leg and it plays Jingle Bells.

Well, what if you guys get a hot girl in the sack and she's obsessing over her looks... as if she's not hot enough (or skinny enough). You're thinking in your head, "WTF is wrong with this girl? Where's her confidence?" Are you not?

So is it safe to say that a girl can be hella hott, but her lack of confidence would turn you off at some point?

So what if the butterface is good in bed and confident as hell with her sexuality, wouldn't you rather get with her and over time her butterface wouldn't matter as much?

LOL

Confidence is an important factor for both parties i feel, I myself currently lack any form of self confidence even when hiding behind a keyboard! Didn't even have the confidence to say anything to SoDamnHungry above you lol.

A partner really should have equal mixes of all desirable attributes, yes whilst the butterface may be confident in bed, and such, as shallow as it sounds, there needs to be a physical attraction as well?

I don't know what appeals to men. They don't hit on me very often.

Yeah right. Pull this leg and it plays Jungle Bells.

To be fair, I don't walk around in a bikini all the time.

And why not? Damn society and its stupid judgement of others.

I think it really depends on the guy. Most guys just go for the hot or not aspect though. But eff 'em.

At your age you are probably right but I know going through school girls wanted someone that would treat them right but dated the hotter guys that were bad boys or had some reputation.

Well, what if you guys get a hot girl in the sack and she's obsessing over her looks... as if she's not hot enough (or skinny enough). You're thinking in your head, "WTF is wrong with this girl? Where's her confidence?" Are you not?

So is it safe to say that a girl can be hella hott, but her lack of confidence would turn you off at some point?

So what if the butterface is good in bed and confident as hell with her sexuality, wouldn't you rather get with her and over time her butterface wouldn't matter as much?

LOL

ETA: sorry, I made it all about sex. But isn't that the meat and potatoes of attraction? The ultimate goal? I agree. Everyone should be nice. Not everyone has the same requirements for attraction, but it does matter.

No. I would not have to choose between these two. I would find an attractive girl who is good in bed and confident (my wife). Sorry....Can't speak for the less attractive guys on here.

I don't know what appeals to men. They don't hit on me very often.

Yeah right. Pull this leg and it plays Jungle Bells.

To be fair, I don't walk around in a bikini all the time.

Is that a batman bikini? I think we are destined for each other.

Well, what if you guys get a hot girl in the sack and she's obsessing over her looks... as if she's not hot enough (or skinny enough). You're thinking in your head, "WTF is wrong with this girl? Where's her confidence?" Are you not?

So is it safe to say that a girl can be hella hott, but her lack of confidence would turn you off at some point?

So what if the butterface is good in bed and confident as hell with her sexuality, wouldn't you rather get with her and over time her butterface wouldn't matter as much?

LOL

Confidence is an important factor for both parties i feel, I myself currently lack any form of self confidence even when hiding behind a keyboard! Didn't even have the confidence to say anything to SoDamnHungry above you lol.

A partner really should have equal mixes of all desirable attributes, yes whilst the butterface may be confident in bed, and such, as shallow as it sounds, there needs to be a physical attraction as well?

A butter face has an awesome body. So you can be attracted to her body if not her face. Hence, "but her face..."

ETA: feel the need to add "perception is reality" and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Anybody can be a butterface to anybody. Not trying to categorize people.

Well, what if you guys get a hot girl in the sack and she's obsessing over her looks... as if she's not hot enough (or skinny enough). You're thinking in your head, "WTF is wrong with this girl? Where's her confidence?" Are you not?

So is it safe to say that a girl can be hella hott, but her lack of confidence would turn you off at some point?

So what if the butterface is good in bed and confident as hell with her sexuality, wouldn't you rather get with her and over time her butterface wouldn't matter as much?

LOL

Confidence is an important factor for both parties i feel, I myself currently lack any form of self confidence even when hiding behind a keyboard! Didn't even have the confidence to say anything to SoDamnHungry above you lol.

A partner really should have equal mixes of all desirable attributes, yes whilst the butterface may be confident in bed, and such, as shallow as it sounds, there needs to be a physical attraction as well?

A butter face has an awesome body. So you can be attracted to her body if not her face. Hence, "but her face..."

And someones face doesn't play a role in physical attraction? I'm sorry but if im sexually involved with someone their face is kind some something i spend a lot of time looking at, eyes are very important to me (as sad as i am )

You should be nice to a person REGARDLESS.:huh:

Really?

Yes, really. Is it so hard?

I don't know what appeals to men. They don't hit on me very often.

Yeah right. Pull this leg and it plays Jungle Bells.

To be fair, I don't walk around in a bikini all the time.

Is that a batman bikini? I think we are destined for each other.

Is that a tramp stamp? On a dude?

I don't know what appeals to men. They don't hit on me very often.

Yeah right. Pull this leg and it plays Jungle Bells.

To be fair, I don't walk around in a bikini all the time.

Is that a batman bikini? I think we are destined for each other.

Is that a tramp stamp? On a dude?

Yes, yes it is!

:laugh:

My amazing sex makes up for my lack of confidence :smokin:

I think it's fair to say that confidence in a woman is more attractive then it's opposite. To me. If there were two identical women that were equally attractive to me and one of them is a down on herself shoe-gazing mope and the other projects well and is *comfortable and happy with herself and her life* - meaning she doesn't need me to like her then the winner is pretty obvious. But yeah I'm not likely to stick around and find out either way if I don't think either is attractive unless we work together or otherwise spend a regular amount of time around each other... then again that's not an absolute. It's all relative and also depends on what other choices a guy has; sometimes there's a tipping point.

You totally lost me at Kesha.

If you feel the need to reference her in any type of personal comparison, all the confidence in the world that you have doesn't matter to me.

Just sayin...