Why do people consider weight loss surgery cheating?
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If it's working for you, don't let others discourage you. Just keep doing the things you need to do to be successful.0
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I only think it's cheating when people hoop and holler about how great it is that they lost a big chunk of weight without acknowleging the surgery being the main reason. Similar to me taking credit for walking 37 miles into work when I drove a car. I know people I work with that have lost 150 lbs after surgery, but act like they did it on a treadmill.
Own it. If it's part of your process at getting healthy, then who cares what they think.
Erm... you do know that WLS is only a catalyst right? YOu know that even after the surgery they have to work hard, and eat properly or they can undo everything they have done right?
I have a friend who has had WLS, she has had amazing results, but I also know she works her *kitten* off (literally) to maintain what she has lost and she worked her *kitten* off to lose that weight. WLS is NOT a fix, it is a tool, one that if used properly is a wonderful tool, they still have to maintain a healthy lifestyle which includes a good diet and exercise to get to the goal they want.
OP ignore everyone and their remarks, do what YOU need to do for YOU and no one else.0 -
I have a lap band. If I go out for dinner and only order a salad with chicken on it and someone says "Is that enough?" I say "yes, I have a lap band" I am 100% straight up with mine. I needed it - I could lose weight no prob with out it. But couldn't keep it off. It is just another tool to use during our weight loss journey.0
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I see weight loss surgery as a tool...you still have to follow a strict diet and exercise program if you are going to be healthy. You have to be extremely diligent in taking your supplements and protein intake. You can never eat sugary or fatty foods again. It's not as easy as people think.
So you're saying that you need to be disciplined with your eating after the surgery? If you can pull that off, then why not start now, and avoid the surgery altogether? See the problem?0 -
I am scheduled to have a gastric bypass on May 24th. I have family and friends making snide comments about my decision. And I keep reading online posts about how weight loss surgery is so horrible because it is cheating.
I have followed a doctor supervised diet and exercise regiment for over a year. My PCOS is making it impossible for me to lose weight. I've seen and endocrinologist and several other specialists and all are agreeing that it is a good idea if I have weight loss surgery because it will change my hormone composition.
I see weight loss surgery as a tool...you still have to follow a strict diet and exercise program if you are going to be healthy. You have to be extremely diligent in taking your supplements and protein intake. You can never eat sugary or fatty foods again. It's not as easy as people think.
Sorry about the rant....I guess I'm just in need of some support or validation of my new journey.
I myself have pcos and struggle with dropping weight so i been thinking about this myself but i am scared of the loose skin you get from dropping so much weight so fast. But if you truely want it and work out and make the right food choices i am all for it. And wish you good luck! I do despise the ppl the get it done and then learn to cheat it and do nothing for a healthier life0 -
I have PCOS, and I am stuck doing it the hard way. I know no-one is going to offer me surgery, because I am losing weight, albeit slowly.
I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but I would rather do it the hard way even if it takes another two years to lose this 60lbs left of the 90lb I had to lose.
I want that sense of accomplishment knowing I earned it with hard work.0 -
I think people think it is cheating because willpower is not involved. My cousin got a gastric band put in about 16 months ago. She has lost 56lbs because she still eats crap, refuses to exercise and is just lazy. Also half of that weight was the pre op diet she was put on before. My sister (in the same year) joined MFP and lost 50lbs through diet and exercise. It took my sister longer to loose the weight but it has stayed off.
Basically, if you are getting this surgery, many people need to go on the pre op diet which they will loose weight on. The problem is, is that these people know its only a short time before they can eat crap again after their op so they stick to it for the month or so before hand. If you can loose weight for a weight loss surgery then you can loose weight without the surgery0 -
At the end of the day, you still need to eat less and move more. Surgery can help with that, but people can and will gain weight after surgery (as the girl from Wilson Phillips did) if your thinking is that the surgery is all you need.
If there are underlying issues as to WHY you are using food as some kind of crutch, make sure you address those as well. All of it is part of the same goal: Losing weight and being healthier.
Good luck.0 -
I don't view it as cheating, but I don't think it's a good idea. A lot (not all) of people who have it claim that they just can't lose weight with eating sensibly and exercising, but I don't think many of them have actually tried. When I was considering WLS, I honestly thought there was no other option, that I had "tried everything". But I couldn't afford it so I never went through with it. Shortly thereafter, my life circumstances changed and I was forced to give up fast food and eat sensibly and lo and behold I lost weight.
Everyone I know who has had gastric bypass has gained the weight back, and then some, or died of complications several years later.
I just don't think it's worth it. But that is only my opinion. My first rule of weight loss is to do what works for you, that you can sustain. You're the expert in your own life, not me, so if that means surgery for you, so be it. I'm just so thankful that I never went through with it.0 -
Its the cowards way out
when we are out here working our *kitten* off cuz we gotta lose weight- the real way
I don't know about that. They doctor's all want me to do it but I refuse because I'd rather lose it naturally than face the risks of surgery. I don't think people realize how it will effect your life. It's no joke. Also, they too should be exercising after they heal. I think the problem is people treat it like it's a miracle and it's not. There is nothing different about doing with or without the surgery except that you are not hungry if you have the surgery and you can't eat as much as you used to. It's not cheating but it's not for me. Also, if you get it done and you don't exercise and don't follow the program, you are stupid.0 -
But I do think there is something to be said for learning how to make necessary lifestyle changes. Surgery doesn't change your habits. I know MANY people who have had one form of bariatric surgery or another, and I can only say that ONE of them has kept the weight off. Some of the others tried for a while, but eventually they all thought of their smaller stomachs as a safety net, and I firmly believe it is because they never learned how to eat properly or maintain an active lifestyle before they went under the knife. They had surgery, the weight fell off with little effort on their part, and they weren't equipped to maintain that loss.
I think this is the main issue. In most cases, people who get surgery never learn to actually change their lifestyle. Changing your lifestyle takes HARD WORK and dedication, so surgery is often seen as the "easy" way out - and the people who have it are often unsuccessful!!
That being said, I completely understand your situation OP. PCOS is a special circumstance, and if you've been working hard for a year with no results than surgery may be the right choice for you. I wish you all the best and if people try to give you crap for your decision, just tell them it's none of their business - because it isn't!0 -
I don't see it as cheating. I think if you've honestly tried to lose it the normal way and you haven't been able to do it then why not? I have a friend who wants to have it, but she's honestly the laziest person I know. No physical activity and always eating JUNK. She cooks but fried pork chop mac and cheese and tator tots are not healthy meals. I've also known people who have had the surgery and not lost much. So I hope you do what's best for you and get great results. Good luck! Don't worry about what other people think or say. You don't have to live with them the rest of your life. You have to live with you.0
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I don't view it as cheating, but I don't think it's a good idea. A lot (not all) of people who have it claim that they just can't lose weight with eating sensibly and exercising, but I don't think many of them have actually tried. When I was considering WLS, I honestly thought there was no other option, that I had "tried everything". But I couldn't afford it so I never went through with it. Shortly thereafter, my life circumstances changed and I was forced to give up fast food and eat sensibly and lo and behold I lost weight.
Everyone I know who has had gastric bypass has gained the weight back, and then some, or died of complications several years later.
I just don't think it's worth it. But that is only my opinion. My first rule of weight loss is to do what works for you, that you can sustain. You're the expert in your own life, not me, so if that means surgery for you, so be it. I'm just so thankful that I never went through with it.0 -
I am scheduled to have a gastric bypass on May 24th. I have family and friends making snide comments about my decision. And I keep reading online posts about how weight loss surgery is so horrible because it is cheating.
I have followed a doctor supervised diet and exercise regiment for over a year. My PCOS is making it impossible for me to lose weight. I've seen and endocrinologist and several other specialists and all are agreeing that it is a good idea if I have weight loss surgery because it will change my hormone composition.
I see weight loss surgery as a tool...you still have to follow a strict diet and exercise program if you are going to be healthy. You have to be extremely diligent in taking your supplements and protein intake. You can never eat sugary or fatty foods again. It's not as easy as people think.
Sorry about the rant....I guess I'm just in need of some support or validation of my new journey.
I don't understand how weight loss surgery will achieve something which strength of mind cannot achieve? What has this to do with PCOS? I don't understand this at all.
You can eat less using willpower. Or you can eat less because it is not physically possible for you to eat any more.
Clearly the former is more worthy of respect, surely?
"Willpower" is easier if you don't have the hormone imbalances that a person with PCOS has. I can understand why she wants to do this - doctors like to prescribe carby, limited calorie diets that put those with insulin resistance at a metabolic disadvantage, spiking their blood glucose and inducing hunger. And then we ridicule them when they're tired of being hungry all the time. She's tried, and it didn't work out. I say do the surgery if you're mentally ready.0 -
What does the surgery teach you? Does it teach you to watch portion control (like really, not by making you eat less, but does it actually teach you what a portion size is), does it make you get out and get active, does it make you choose healthy options for food? I think the issue is that it's like the cheaters way (unless really medically necessary). There is a good chance that you could put the weight back on. If you have the surgery and eat the same processed junk and fast food, then it has taught you nothing! if you have come out of it ready to change your lifestyle forever, you eat healthy, make good food choices, then that is awesome. But like others said, you have to own it. When people ask how you lost your weight, don't tell them by eating good and exercising, you tell them, I had gastric bypass.
There are lots of skeptics out there and here is why.... If I can lose weight, anyone can. it takes patients, will power and dedication! I did it, I even have some MFP friends who have lost over 100 lbs just by eating better and working out. I lost my 45 lbs the 'old fashioned way' and I now know what I need to do to keep it off and be healthy forever. I fear that the surgery doesn't help anyone figure these things out.
Personally, I would not ever do it unless it was medically necessary. But you are not me. this is your choice and your body, just make sure you take the necessary steps in making sure you are healthy after this procedure.0 -
I think it's because sometimes the people who do WLS don't understand that they can't just go back to what they were doing before it and keep the weight off. Sure a bit may be jealousy that the weight will come off quicker. Personally I just cringe because everyone I know who has done it gained most of it back. Not saying surgery is "easy" but either way lifestyle changes have to be made.0
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I don't consider it cheating, I think its more like a short cut, if you are unable to lose weight the traditional way and this is your last option, I agree with the others...own it, but know its not going to work if you don't put in the work. There have been way too many people that had this surgery, thinking their "fat" problems were solved forever, only to gain the weight back (Star Jones, Carnie Wilson and my Aunt) come to mind. Use it as a short cut to a more healthier, life-long lifestyle. Good luck with your surgery.0
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PCOS makes it more difficult for the body to use the hormone insulin, which normally helps convert sugars and starches from foods into energy. This condition -- called insulin resistance -- can cause insulin and sugar -- glucose -- to build up in the bloodstream.
http://women.webmd.com/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-pcos-and-weight-gain
Yes I consider it cheating. It's only forcing you to eat smaller meals more often. Why can't you do that on your own? And start moving. Nothing helps more for insulin resistance than exercise.
It's the lazy way out...that's my opinion.0 -
As someone who suffers from PCOS . . . . your PCOS is not making it "IMPOSSIBLE" for you to lose weight- it is making it harder and a longer process, but not impossible0
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I don't consider it 'cheating' but the side effects sound so brutal and horrible. If I'm going to have to eat less and exercise more anyways, I would way rather do it without severe vitamin deficiencies, vomiting, "dumping", mysterious new allergies, pain, etc etc.0
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