Quick Poll on Sugar

LolBroScience · May 2013

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

Strong bashing people for not not watching a 1.5 hr lecture and knowing nothing about Alan Aragon, claiming he is a blogger... lol.

jmcreynolds91 · May 2013

i dont worry about any sugar from fruits. I am over by alot everyday but i know its from fruit so i dont worry about it. I watch my refined sugar intake though.

kelleynbrown · May 2013

I LOVE bananas, but they have a lot of sugar. However, even eating 2 or 3 bananas a day as a 'pick-me-up' doesn't seem to bother my dieting at all. Also, drinking water helps water it down in your blood.

I usually eat one before lifting and hard muscle workouts. Great for energy!

Acg67 · May 2013

I'm not going to elaborate on the biochemistry and illustrations that can viewed on the lecture that I linked, that in detail show how different sugars are broken down by the liver. That's why I linked it because it gets far more comprehensive and in-depth then I can explain. It's a very interesting lecture and it changed the way I view sugar intake.

Dr LOLstig's lecture? lol

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/988127-scientific-review-of-lolstig-s-fat-chance

DocMarr · May 2013

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

I know how long it is. And LOL, Alan Aragon is not a just a blogger. Take the time to read/listen.

How about answering the questions?

Interesting - I am on a day off today so have had some free time. I watched both videos (yes, including all of the 1.5 hour one) and read Alan Aragon's blog and every single one of the responses underneath. It's taken me the best part of 4 hours to watch, listen, read and absorb the arguments presented.

There are things to be said for and against both arguments and actually what I concluded was that neither side were fundamentally disagreeing with each other - it mainly came down to being context-specific and quantity-linked.

The conclusion I have drawn from the arguments presented can be summed up as: eating raw fruit is generally fine but avoid too much processed and refined foods containing sugar and cut back on drinking fruit juice and sugar-filled sodas. Moderation in all things is a virtue.

Actually I do all that already, but it's been a fun way to spend a morning.

mikkijane1 · May 2013

I won't eat refined sugars but I do eat fruit- mostly berries in my green smoothies

momzeeee · May 2013

How many of you believe fruit sugar (and not just one apple a day- I am talking different types of fruit through out the day) is absolutely 100% fine?
and does anyone else here subtract in their head the fruit/veggie sugar from their "sugar" column on the macros each day?

I eat fruit in moderation, one or two pieces a day. My favorites are berries and bananas-berries are low sugar/low carbs, bananas not so much

BarackMeLikeAHurricane · May 2013

Sugar is just a carb. As long as you're eating enough fats and protein, your carbs/sugar aren't particularly important unless you have a medical issue that requires carbs/sugar to be monitored.

However, it should be noted that fructose and sucrose can only be stored as liver glycogen and not muscle glycogen. The liver can hold 100-120g glycogen so anything more than that will be converted to triglycerides. As long as you still have a calorie deficit this will even out. Just try to make most of your carbs glucose and not sucrose or fructose. Fructose in particular has been shown to decrease exercise performance, increased likelihood of gastrointestinal distress, and increase perception of exertion.

Here are some studies:
http://www.setantacollege.com/wp-content/uploads/Journal_db/the effects of glucose....pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592616

As long as you're under your calorie goal, you'll lose weight. Some people find that sugar (even from fruit) causes them to have more sugar/carb cravings so keep that in mind.

For information on setting your macro target, read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/911011-calculating-calorie-macronutrient-needs?page=1#posts-13821336

TS65 · May 2013

FOR ME, processed sugar is an addictive substance. Too much and I start craving more sugar, as well as refined carbs (breads, etc.) When removed from my eating, the carb/sugar cravings vanish. Initially, it's not easy to do as I tend to have sweet teeth (not just a sweet tooth!), but it's worth it in the long run. I try to limit my sugar to <25-35, but I don't freak if I go over due to a sweet potato or fruit.

Regarding fruit sugar - I try to limit my fruit to berries at this point. Otherwise, because I'm so used to such low sugar, it can also start the sweet cravings. (bananas tend to be the biggest culprit - those things are like rocket fuel to me - and not in a good way!)

phillyprincess · May 2013

I don't eat anything that has more than 6grams of sugar per serving. However I don't do this with fruit.

Sarauk2sf · May 2013

I'm not going to elaborate on the biochemistry and illustrations that can viewed on the lecture that I linked, that in detail show how different sugars are broken down by the liver. That's why I linked it because it gets far more comprehensive and in-depth then I can explain. It's a very interesting lecture and it changed the way I view sugar intake.

Heh!

jen_zz · May 2013

Sugar is just a carb. As long as you're eating enough fats and protein, your carbs/sugar aren't particularly important unless you have a medical issue that requires carbs/sugar to be monitored.

However, it should be noted that fructose and sucrose can only be stored as liver glycogen and not muscle glycogen. The liver can hold 100-120g glycogen so anything more than that will be converted to triglycerides. As long as you still have a calorie deficit this will even out. Just try to make most of your carbs glucose and not sucrose or fructose. Fructose in particular has been shown to decrease exercise performance, increased likelihood of gastrointestinal distress, and increase perception of exertion.

Here are some studies:
http://www.setantacollege.com/wp-content/uploads/Journal_db/the effects of glucose....pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592616

As long as you're under your calorie goal, you'll lose weight. Some people find that sugar (even from fruit) causes them to have more sugar/carb cravings so keep that in mind.

For information on setting your macro target, read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/911011-calculating-calorie-macronutrient-needs?page=1#posts-13821336

This!

Personally, I'm trying not to have too much fructose.

lucyricky2 · May 2013

I really watch my sugars. I eat strawberries often or also kiwi. I try to compensate on my other foods though. For me since I have done that I have lost weight. I try to keep everything at 0 or under

stealthq · May 2013

I don't really track sugar, just try to avoid bakery items (that coincidentally often have a lot of sugar) because they are my weakness. I also avoid fruit unless I can eat some protein and fat with it because it leaves me hungry otherwise.

healthyKYgirl · May 2013

Eating fruit did not get me fat. Fruit juice I count as bad, but fruit in it's whole form, isn't something I worry about at all.

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