Death...what do you think about it--or do you?
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Yolo and then you die.
I have the feeling you haven't been touched by death a lot yet.. One day when death does come and visit you, or worse, one of your loved ones, I hope you remember you posted this. To give you an example, I'm sitting here at my desk, reading your post, looking at my mom's devotional picture who passed away two weeks ago and just shake my head.
i don't think that is fair to say. i have witnessed death (the suicide i posted about), been beside my grandfather at his bedside as he died slowly over a couple of weeks, been to a funeral for the daughter of my cousin who was only 7 but had serious developmental complications her whole life, been to the funeral of a friend in high school who was hit by a train, my partners grandmothers funeral, my great uncle, my ex-boyfriend has passed away.
and i am really of the mindframe that we are too insignificant to know if there is anything after. i completely agree with the simplicity of it. yolo...and then you die.
It's not about the simplicity. This kid didn't post it because he was being sincere, but because he thought he was being funny. That may be so, but I think its pretty harsh. There are different ways to express that you live and then you die (which is exactly what I wrote earlier). Its about the manner in which you show respect about the subject.
And just to be clear, from where I'm standing, its very fair to say.
everyone accepts death in different ways, and tones.
my condolences to you and your family0 -
Growing up I didn't lost anyone close to me until I was in my twenty's. My first brush with death was when an online friend who I had known for years. We shared a lot of common interest and would talk about movies, shows, car stuff, etc. He was in his early 20's when he died. It was the first time I started questioning death and mortality in a serious way.
My father died when I was 27 but he had been hospitalized and in declining health for 7-8 years and had many brushes with death. We (the family) become oblivious to it. When he was sicker than usual it was just another normal routine to go to the hospital for a month. While my dad tried to turn his life around it was unfortunately way too late. He died due to a heart attack and when he died I went into a VERY bad downward spiral.
It took me some time and going through some life altering changes to accept that death is just something that happens and we shouldn't focus on it. We should instead focus on the time we have here and make sure that our loved ones understand what they mean to us.
When I die I won't care who cries at my funeral or even who knows. I'd be more interested to see the ways I touched people that I didn't even know what I had done.0 -
If I didn't have a kid I don't think I would worry about it. But...since my daughter is only 2, and really I'm the only responsible (young) adult in her life I'm really all she has. Her dad is ummm... he is there and he is a good dad I guess, but he is the 'fun' dad. Both grandmothers and grandfathers are not involved & although great grandmothers are alive they're in their late 70s.
I'm not going to lie it does worry me. But not because I'm scared of whatever happens after life, but my daughter's life after I'm gone.0 -
These are such thought provoking posts. Thanks to each and everyone of you for your replies! :flowerforyou:0
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"Seasons don't fear the reaper, nor do the wind, the sun or the rain"--neither should we.
However, I do believe that we continue to exist beyond death; I just don't know how. Nothing ever really dies.
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Yolo and then you die.
I have the feeling you haven't been touched by death a lot yet.. One day when death does come and visit you, or worse, one of your loved ones, I hope you remember you posted this. To give you an example, I'm sitting here at my desk, reading your post, looking at my mom's devotional picture who passed away two weeks ago and just shake my head.
i don't think that is fair to say. i have witnessed death (the suicide i posted about), been beside my grandfather at his bedside as he died slowly over a couple of weeks, been to a funeral for the daughter of my cousin who was only 7 but had serious developmental complications her whole life, been to the funeral of a friend in high school who was hit by a train, my partners grandmothers funeral, my great uncle, my ex-boyfriend has passed away.
and i am really of the mindframe that we are too insignificant to know if there is anything after. i completely agree with the simplicity of it. yolo...and then you die.
It's not about the simplicity. This kid didn't post it because he was being sincere, but because he thought he was being funny. That may be so, but I think its pretty harsh. There are different ways to express that you live and then you die (which is exactly what I wrote earlier). Its about the manner in which you show respect about the subject.
And just to be clear, from where I'm standing, its very fair to say.
everyone accepts death in different ways, and tones.
my condolences to you and your family
I appreciate what you're trying to say here, but you seem to be missing the point.. It's not about accepting death in a different way. It's not about the simplicity of death. It's about a kid randomly posting on a thread with a delicate subject and not giving a crap. Just someone trying to be funny and popular. Maybe this isn't the right thread...
There are going to be people on this thread that have lost someone and are still hurting, and find that 'Yolo and then you die' does not cover the subject.
I for one have watched my mother, who was 63 and hadn't been sick one day in 10 years, battle cancer. Being eaten by her own body. Being in severe pains. Wanting to fight it, wanting to live and take care of her 3 kids. Losing half of her bodyweight. Losing her hair. I've watched her not being able to stand up anymore, not being able to leave her bed. Being in agonising pain despite all the morfine. Still wanting to live and just staring out the window to the sunshine and people passing by on their bike. Holding her hand when she decided enough is enough and she wanted euthanasia. The last minutes we talked, about what we were going to eat for dinner (she still asked to make sure her kids were eating!), saying our goodbyes, kissing, hugging, crying. And then 'poof'. She was gone. Standing at her grave (that you picked out for her yourself and lowering her casket in it) and realising you can't talk to your mom ever again.
Yeah, 'Yolo and then you die" doesn't really cover the subject imo.0 -
Yolo and then you die.
I have the feeling you haven't been touched by death a lot yet.. One day when death does come and visit you, or worse, one of your loved ones, I hope you remember you posted this. To give you an example, I'm sitting here at my desk, reading your post, looking at my mom's devotional picture who passed away two weeks ago and just shake my head.
i don't think that is fair to say. i have witnessed death (the suicide i posted about), been beside my grandfather at his bedside as he died slowly over a couple of weeks, been to a funeral for the daughter of my cousin who was only 7 but had serious developmental complications her whole life, been to the funeral of a friend in high school who was hit by a train, my partners grandmothers funeral, my great uncle, my ex-boyfriend has passed away.
and i am really of the mindframe that we are too insignificant to know if there is anything after. i completely agree with the simplicity of it. yolo...and then you die.
It's not about the simplicity. This kid didn't post it because he was being sincere, but because he thought he was being funny. That may be so, but I think its pretty harsh. There are different ways to express that you live and then you die (which is exactly what I wrote earlier). Its about the manner in which you show respect about the subject.
And just to be clear, from where I'm standing, its very fair to say.
everyone accepts death in different ways, and tones.
my condolences to you and your family
I appreciate what you're trying to say here, but you seem to be missing the point.. It's not about accepting death in a different way. It's not about the simplicity of death. It's about a kid randomly posting on a thread with a delicate subject and not giving a crap. Just someone trying to be funny and popular. Maybe this isn't the right thread...
There are going to be people on this thread that have lost someone and are still hurting, and find that 'Yolo and then you die' does not cover the subject.
I for one have watched my mother, who was 63 and hadn't been sick one day in 10 years, battle cancer. Being eaten by her own body. Being in severe pains. Wanting to fight it, wanting to live and take care of her 3 kids. Losing half of her bodyweight. Losing her hair. I've watched her not being able to stand up anymore, not being able to leave her bed. Being in agonising pain despite all the morfine. Still wanting to live and just staring out the window to the sunshine and people passing by on their bike. Holding her hand when she decided enough is enough and she wanted euthanasia. The last minutes we talked, about what we were going to eat for dinner (she still asked to make sure her kids were eating!), saying our goodbyes, kissing, hugging, crying. And then 'poof'. She was gone. Standing at her grave (that you picked out for her yourself and lowering her casket in it) and realising you can't talk to your mom ever again.
Yeah, 'Yolo and then you die" doesn't really cover the subject imo.
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I don't dwell on it much. I have a much different view and it doesn't go into religion, the mystical, or any of that.
I won't go into it here, as it tends to upset people.0 -
the only known cause of death is being alive in the first place. Fear not death for it is only the dead who can not make any mistakes, in death we ultimately make room for another life, it is the greatest gift of all.
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cake or death... HAHAHAHAHA0 -
cake or death... HAHAHAHAHA
death by chocolate.
and i still stand by the 'yolo. and then you die' statement that the other mfp user made. It could have been said with grief. As someone who doesn't believe in god, I really do agree with what they said. All the words that get tangled in my sentiments don't quite summarize it as well as that one liner.0 -
cake or death... HAHAHAHAHA
I'll take cake! Gotta love Eddie Izzard0 -
I look forward to it... not in a morbid way or want it to happen, but to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... No fears!0
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I plan on living until at leeeast 100 years old. Sooo fork up my Social Security Government. And 95% of all the tax $ I have donated (At Times Of War, Haah. Right) Im living to get my $ back..... And so I may take one of those "So Called" annual vacations. Some of you people take those. Guess it lasts about a week, and you go to some island, and rest a bit on the beach. So I better take care of myself, to be the fittest 65 year old woman you'd ever seen, on the beach, in a bathing suit, with a Pina Colada.
Guess I sound a little old and grumpy now. And Im a mere 47 years old! Haaah. :laugh: 0 -
I look forward to it... not in a morbid way or want it to happen, but to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... No fears!
I "KNOW" and am confident that's right...for SURE!!!!! Thanks for posting this.
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I plan on living until at leeeast 100 years old. Sooo fork up my Social Security Government. And 95% of all the tax $ I have donated (At Times Of War, Haah. Right) Im living to get my $ back..... And so I may take one of those "So Called" annual vacations. Some of you people take those. Guess it lasts about a week, and you go to some island, and rest a bit on the beach. So I better take care of myself, to be the fittest 65 year old woman you'd ever seen, on the beach, in a bathing suit, with a Pina Colada. Guess I sound a little old and grumpy now. And Im a mere 47 years old! Haaah. :laugh:
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I'm a Christian so naturally I know I'm going to heaven. However, that does not mean I want to go now. I think you shouldn't worry about dying and live everyday to the fullest.
Naturally.0 -
i know a lot of old people like that, when you get really old, i guess its just a given.... it happens. sooooo you just have to live with the inevitable. =^.^=0
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I think some day it will get me.0
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I follow an Earth Religion, so death is just a part of the circle. I believe in reincarnation/rebirth, so yeah, I'm with your neighbor on this one - it simply *is.* Happens to all of us. The sorrow that most people feel (and I do, too, don't get me wrong) is a selfish longing for the other person to be back in our lives. Is it a bad thing for the person who died? Maybe, maybe not. But our sorrow stems entirely on our selfish want for that person to be back.
*shrug* Just my belief. It's a natural emotion and there's no shame in it, but some people aren't capable of that kind of emotion.0 -
Elisabeth Kubler Ross has done some very insightful studies on death and dying. I believe she is (or was at her time) the only person to do a study on death. Her findings were interesting.
Personally... I believe our life force energy goes back to where it came from. Nothing scary about that. I think heaven is a state of consciousness.0 -
I follow an Earth Religion, so death is just a part of the circle. I believe in reincarnation/rebirth, so yeah, I'm with your neighbor on this one - it simply *is.* Happens to all of us. The sorrow that most people feel (and I do, too, don't get me wrong) is a selfish longing for the other person to be back in our lives. Is it a bad thing for the person who died? Maybe, maybe not. But our sorrow stems entirely on our selfish want for that person to be back.
*shrug* Just my belief. It's a natural emotion and there's no shame in it, but some people aren't capable of that kind of emotion.
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I look forward to it... not in a morbid way or want it to happen, but to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.... No fears!
Mike said it perfectly.
Plus, I believe all questions will be answered, which will be really freakin' cool!0 -
I hope you understand that your neighbor probably wasn't meaning to come across as insensitive. She probably disassociated herself with the event. She probably is affected by it, and may cry when she is alone.
When I talk about a death I am thinking about something else so that my real feelings don't show, and I am able to convey what needs to be said. Also, to sometimes talk about what happened.
Maybe your neighbor needs a friend....
How I feel about death....
I hate that the people we love have to be taken from us! However, if I had to choose between knowing it was coming, or a sudden death. I think it is easier if you know it is coming. That's just my opinion.0 -
As one of the aforementioned Christians, I have no real fear of death. The process of dying? Yeah I'm not so keen on that. I'm hoping for the quick "hit by a bus", rather than the lingering in a hospital route.
And yes, to whoever said it's not up to me, that is correct. Satan most certainly wants a piece. However, Christ took care of that for me a number of years ago. So I am not concerned.0 -
I suspect your neighbour has had a lot of friends/acquaintances die. To older people it happens a lot and it becomes a familiar occurrence.
My Mother in Law passed away over a year ago and it was a very sad loss for all the family. My next Sunday at church after the funeral I arrived late so sat in the back row. As that is where families with young children usually sit, I checked my seat to make sure it was clean. It was. Part way through I had to move seats to let some people pass. A while later I went to sit down and discovered my seat and the first one I'd been in had a sprinkling of gold specks. I hadn't brought it in and no one else had been near. It was God's way of comforting me. My MIL knew Jesus, I know Jesus. My MIL was having a great time in heaven. Life after death to me? The best PARTY ever!0 -
I suspect your neighbour has had a lot of friends/acquaintances die. To older people it happens a lot and it becomes a familiar occurrence.
My Mother in Law passed away over a year ago and it was a very sad loss for all the family. My next Sunday at church after the funeral I arrived late so sat in the back row. As that is where families with young children usually sit, I checked my seat to make sure it was clean. It was. Part way through I had to move seats to let some people pass. A while later I went to sit down and discovered my seat and the first one I'd been in had a sprinkling of gold specks. I hadn't brought it in and no one else had been near. It was God's way of comforting me. My MIL knew Jesus, I know Jesus. My MIL was having a great time in heaven. Life after death to me? The best PARTY ever!
I suspect your neighbour has had a lot of friends/acquaintances die. To older people it happens a lot and it becomes a familiar occurrence. .... I REALLY appreciate you sharing this. My neighbor/friend is very elderly (even though she doesn't look nor act like it AT ALL not even a bit :happy: ) She's nearing or in her late 70's early 80's...this makes soooo much sense to me. Thank you so much for your lovely post!0 -
Yeah, it's a tough concept to wrap your mind around. The more you have been exposed to someone's absence, the more casually you can discuss it. Everyone needs to be respected in the telling. She probably didn't realize you didn't know or she'd have used more tact.
I do believe the Jesus died so that we don't have to...my body will lay in a grace, but my spirit will be present with Him for all eternity. And He made me and loves me more than anyone could. So, that's cool. It says we'll have "works" to do, and I'm cool with that, too. I like to be useful. Coming to terms with the end of our impact on earth...it's a large thing to wrap your head around. Makes you want to make it all count, doesn't it? I'm sorry for your loss. And...I'm sorry that we don't do more to commemorate special people in public ways. I hope you wrote on her wall. "I didn't know you well, but..." Well, you did commemorate her here, too. I suppose a lot of people express their condolences in all kinds of ways.0 -
*gulp*
my childs father died when she was 3.
a very troubling time for me and for her.
all in all, I believe in life after death.
heaven sounds fantastic.
I hope to one day be reunited with him.
but for now, I will continue on w/my life
As soon as one is born, one starts dying.~LUIGI PIRANDELLO, Henry IV0
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