What is the WORST fitness advice....

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  • Lochlyn_D
    Lochlyn_D Posts: 492 Member
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    Eat more to lose more.
  • bonniecarbs
    bonniecarbs Posts: 446 Member
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    PLIPSURT...I followed that bad advice on jumping jacks - "I have people weighing 400 pounds doing jumping jacks, so man up cause there is no variation for the jumping jacks." Jillian gave that advice, - well I should have done a variation, its my fault I followed that advice cause I knew better, and my knee is injured in a bad way. I can't afford knee surgery until 2014 when I get social security.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
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    Be a vegan
  • AnnaMolly17
    AnnaMolly17 Posts: 91 Member
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    "Women shouldn't lift heavy, or you won't be able to have kids" -- What is the reasoning behind this, I'm curious?
  • Hexahedra
    Hexahedra Posts: 894 Member
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    Another piece of bad advice:
    "It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you burn more calories than you eat!"
    Well, if your only goal is to lose weight, then it's actually right. If you also want to be healthy and toned, then it's wrong.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
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    Lift pounds for toning and kilograms for bulking.

    ^^^ Ridiculous on so many levels.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
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    Stay in a calorie deficit to lose weight.

    That's how weight is lost.

    I would amend this to say the bad advice is that ONLY calorie deficits will help you lose weight. Calorie deficits help, but macros are just as important.
  • pinkraynedropjacki
    pinkraynedropjacki Posts: 3,027 Member
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    Running is bad for your joints so you should not o it.

    Weights while working out are bad for your joints so dont use them (got the one yesterday here)

    Cardio is no good for you at all & you wont lose weight doing just that. (my fave worst avice)
  • sozisraw
    sozisraw Posts: 418 Member
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    But you are bulky Side Steel :laugh:
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
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    Another piece of bad advice:
    "It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you burn more calories than you eat!"
    Well, if your only goal is to lose weight, then it's actually right. If you also want to be healthy and toned, then it's wrong.
    Because fat is bad? what is toned?
    Nowadays it would still probably be useful to sit around 15% of bodyfat due to high impact injuries we can still sustain from car accidents.

    the person at 8% bodyfat will sustain much more damage than the person at 20% bodyfat due to the cushioning and protection of organs.

    I am just posting an opposing statement of being lean and exercising vs a little pudge and exercising
  • Oriole15
    Oriole15 Posts: 58
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    You do not need cardio to lose weight.

    You don't, though.

    This. You can very easily lose weight with little to no cardio. I did!

    Maybe I am missing something there. I see the whole cardio is useless mantra all over this forum so I am a bit puzzled about it. Unless you are doing it purely for looks and dismissing the improving your health part of exercise why do some of you set out to do no cardio?

    Your heart is a muscle that needs training too, so you may not need to do cardio to lose weight but it will help to improve your general fitness.

    You wouldn't work on your biceps and do not triceps exercises hoping they would gain strength purely by some kind of osmosis would you? so why leave the muscle that ensures oxygen gets to the brain, which to me seems an important function as organs go, out of your training programme?

    I don't like running and I get that cardio is mostly dull and not as rewarding in terms of happy hormones as weights but I am still curious as to why so many out there feel they are healthier for dropping cardio from their schedule.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
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    You do not need cardio to lose weight.

    You don't, though.

    This. You can very easily lose weight with little to no cardio. I did!

    Maybe I am missing something there. I see the whole cardio is useless mantra all over this forum so I am a bit puzzled about it. Unless you are doing it purely for looks and dismissing the improving your health part of exercise why do some of you set out to do no cardio?

    Your heart is a muscle that needs training too, so you may not need to do cardio to lose weight but it will help to improve your general fitness.

    You wouldn't work on your biceps and do not triceps exercises hoping they would gain strength purely by some kind of osmosis would you? so why leave the muscle that ensures oxygen gets to the brain, which to me seems an important function as organs go, out of your training programme?

    I don't like running and I get that cardio is mostly dull and not as rewarding in terms of happy hormones as weights but I am still curious as to why so many out there feel they are healthier for dropping cardio from their schedule.
    You do realize lifting weights helps with heart health as well right?
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
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    You do not need cardio to lose weight.

    You don't, though.

    This. You can very easily lose weight with little to no cardio. I did!

    Maybe I am missing something there. I see the whole cardio is useless mantra all over this forum so I am a bit puzzled about it. Unless you are doing it purely for looks and dismissing the improving your health part of exercise why do some of you set out to do no cardio?

    Your heart is a muscle that needs training too, so you may not need to do cardio to lose weight but it will help to improve your general fitness.

    You wouldn't work on your biceps and do not triceps exercises hoping they would gain strength purely by some kind of osmosis would you? so why leave the muscle that ensures oxygen gets to the brain, which to me seems an important function as organs go, out of your training programme?

    I don't like running and I get that cardio is mostly dull and not as rewarding in terms of happy hormones as weights but I am still curious as to why so many out there feel they are healthier for dropping cardio from their schedule.

    I don't subscribe to "cardio is useless" however I don't do much of it. I run up the stairs to my apartment, that's about it.

    My heart gets a good workout when I lift weights, because the big compound lifts like squats, deadlifts etc, use several major muscle groups and so tax the cardiovascular system, and are not simply an anaerobic exercise. My cardiovascular fitness has improved from doing heavy lifting. As for what all the advice for heart health is, any exercise that gets you out of breath and your heart pumping for 15 mins 3x a week is what's recommended... squats and deadlifts do that.

    I can see the benefits of cardio for endurance. If you want to run marathons or have that level of endurance, then you need to do lots of cardio. And I don't see that there's anything wrong with it, I'm not in the "cardio is useless" brigade and definitely not in the "cardio is harmful" one either. But it's not essential for health either. You can get the same health benefits from weightlifting, if you do it right. Biceps curls aren't going to do anything for your cardiovascular system but the big compound lifts are. Additionally, weightlifting does more for your body composition than cardio does.
  • Oriole15
    Oriole15 Posts: 58
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    You do realize lifting weights helps with heart health as well right?

    You'll have to go a long way before you persuade me that doing lifting only will be just as good as lifting + cardio to make sure I am not quite as out of breath and my heart won't take quite as long going back to a normal rate the next time I have to run for 20 minutes to make sure I don't miss my train because a I left the office late.

    As I said, I don't enjoy cardio, I only do it because I noticed that when I do more walking/running/cycling my brachycardia improves, lifting alone does squat for it however much I like it. On the other hand, since I started lifting a bit I find that carrying my toddler for longer distances while having to maintain a strong grip because he is having a tantrum is much easier.

    My sample size of 1 study concludes that both types of exercise have their benefits and that advocating people drop one in favour of the other is probably misguided in terms of encouraging people to get off their sofas and move more.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
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    You do realize lifting weights helps with heart health as well right?

    You'll have to go a long way before you persuade me that doing lifting only will be just as good as lifting + cardio to make sure I am not quite as out of breath and my heart won't take quite as long going back to a normal rate the next time I have to run for 20 minutes to make sure I don't miss my train because a I left the office late.

    As I said, I don't enjoy cardio, I only do it because I noticed that when I do more walking/running/cycling my brachycardia improves, lifting alone does squat for it however much I like it. On the other hand, since I started lifting a bit I find that carrying my toddler for longer distances while having to maintain a strong grip because he is having a tantrum is much easier.

    My sample size of 1 study concludes that both types of exercise have their benefits and that advocating people drop one in favour of the other is probably misguided in terms of encouraging people to get off their sofas and move more.

    Who is advocating dropping one in favour of the other? Personally I'm an advocate of whatever you can stick with in the long term. Also, this thread is about correct information. Insisting that cardio is essential for health is incorrect. It's beneficial, but not essential. You can work your cardiovascular system enough for health through lifting. Can you work it enough for running marathons? No. But if you are exercising for general health and improved body composition, you don't need to have the cardiovascular endurance of a marathon runner. If you want to run marathons or have that level of endurance then of course you must do cardio.

    It is important to do the right kind of weight lifting, doing isolation exercises will not tax the cardiovascular system, you need to do the big compound lifts and with heavy enough weights and enough reps and sets to really get the heart pumping. If you're not out of breath and if your heart is not beating very fast from doing lifting, then you're not taxing the cardiovascular system, and if you're not taxing the cardiovascular system when lifting, you're not going to see an improvement in cardiovascular fitness. Free weights are better than machines, because machines isolate muscle groups, while free weights force you to work most of your body, the more muscle groups that are activated, the more of an oxygen debt is build up, and more your cardiovascular system has to work to provide oxygen to the muscles being worked to get rid of the oxygen debt.
  • chu604
    chu604 Posts: 353 Member
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    Hmm i havent heard much said TO me
    But the dumbest thing ive heard is pizza being classified a vegatable....
  • Hexahedra
    Hexahedra Posts: 894 Member
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    Another piece of bad advice:
    "It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you burn more calories than you eat!"
    Well, if your only goal is to lose weight, then it's actually right. If you also want to be healthy and toned, then it's wrong.
    Because fat is bad? what is toned?
    Nowadays it would still probably be useful to sit around 15% of bodyfat due to high impact injuries we can still sustain from car accidents.

    the person at 8% bodyfat will sustain much more damage than the person at 20% bodyfat due to the cushioning and protection of organs.

    I am just posting an opposing statement of being lean and exercising vs a little pudge and exercising
    I'm simply saying that you can eat junk food all day long and lose weight, as long as you maintain caloric deficit. Hell, you can eat twinkies as breakfast, lunch, and dinner and still lose weight that way. But, it's obvious that a Twinkie diet is not healthy.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

    Personally I'm not looking to be shredded. If I can be healthy and slightly more muscular than the average guy, I'd be happy. I know what it costs to have very low BF. My wife has been doing this for years and she has very low BF. One of the side effects is lower resistance to cold. Subcutaneous fat in mammals serves to isolate the body from cold.
  • Oriole15
    Oriole15 Posts: 58
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    Personally I'm an advocate of whatever you can stick with in the long term.

    Very much +1
  • Catfish83
    Catfish83 Posts: 8
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    "Don't eat carbs after xx:xx pm".
  • fionarama
    fionarama Posts: 788 Member
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    I think the one about eating more and you'll lose more is a good one. So. Not. True. For me anyway.