Study: Subway Sandwiches Are Worse Than We Think
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A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
its very possible
you can go to a fast food place and eat that in a meal if you eat big meals
that's easy go to Mcdonalds..eat 2 big Macs = 1000 calories
Large Fries= 1000 calories
Large shake=550 calories
crispy chicken sandwich= 550
top it all of with a trip to ice cream shop for triple scoop ice cream cone
its not healthy lol but its 40000 -
It's about what people order and what they assume is healthy and low calorie, it's not that the sandwiches are bad or Subway is a poor choice. They just underestimate calories and make poor choices.
This was explained a lot better in the book:
The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite
David A. Kessler
Then that article you linked too.0 -
It is just like anything else, you can go to Subway and make a healthy meal, or you can make a fat laden, sodium filled, unhealthy meal. if you go there and load up on all the processed meats and cheese, then of course you are going to have an unhealthy meal. If you choose a salad or sub with lots of veggies, then it is not so bad. It is as good as eating at home, no, but certainly not the worst fast food choice.0
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A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
Are you talking about from Subway or in general? 4k meals are easy to achieve
mermaids...0 -
One six-inch sandwich (any meat-bread combo) has about 1000+ mg of sodium which is around 60% of your DV (just a guess) for sodium. That's not good!0
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One six-inch sandwich (any meat-bread combo) has about 1000+ mg of sodium which is around 60% of your DV (just a guess) for sodium. That's not good!
ZOMG!
Sodium Intake in Populations: Assessment of Evidence
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18311&page=R10 -
A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
its very possible
that's easy go to Mcdonalds..eat 2 big Macs = 1000 calories
Large Fries= 1000 calories
Large shake=550 calories
crispy chicken sandwich= 550
top it all of with a trip to ice cream shop for triple scoop ice cream cone
its not healthy lol but its 4000
You forgot the 20 piece nuggets! And swap the shake out for an oreo mcflurry.0 -
A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
its very possible
that's easy go to Mcdonalds..eat 2 big Macs = 1000 calories
Large Fries= 1000 calories
Large shake=550 calories
crispy chicken sandwich= 550
top it all of with a trip to ice cream shop for triple scoop ice cream cone
its not healthy lol but its 4000
You forgot the 20 piece nuggets! And swap the shake out for an oreo mcflurry.
mmmm mcflurry0 -
So it's not that Subway, McDonald's or other fast food restaurants are worse than we think, it's that people suck at estimating calories? Oh, that's why I usually look up nutrition information prior to going places like that. :ohwell:
^ This. All the study shows is that people are in denial about how much they're eating. I get enough of that here, thank you.0 -
How is having calories bad for us? Everything has calories.
Let's be fair when interpreting the study. The information was for several fast food restaurants, not just subway.
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/youre-eating-more-calories-than-you-think/
Also, let's be even more fair that most people (American, because that's the data I have) underestimate the number of calories in pretty much any food they put in their mouths.
http://survata.com/blog/how-accurate-are-americans-at-estimating-calories/
This is true whether the food is healthy or not. If you eat 700 calories worth of avocado but think you've only eaten 350, does that make the food "worse" than we think? No. It makes the person eating it uninformed about the calories in an avocado.
Education about calories in food is the responsibility of the person eating it. It doesn't make the food "better" or "worse."0 -
I'm still trying to work out what on earth a 4000 calorie meal looks like... Let's go with McDonalds:
I've done it. Chili's!
Hot Spinach & Artichoke w/Chip = 1520
Bacon Ranch Chicken Quesadilla = 1740
Brownie Sundae = 1090
Total: 4350.
And there's still no alcohol in there! Add in sugary margarita...0 -
Education about calories in food is the responsibility of the person eating it. It doesn't make the food "better" or "worse."
Ding ding ding! Winner!0 -
This really has nothing to do with Subway. It only shows that people make bad choices and don't care how many calories they are eating. I could easily turn a sub from Subway into an unhealthy meal by piling on loads of mayo, oil, cheese and other condiments and then grabbing a large soda, cookies and a bag of chips. Or...I could go to Subway and get a ham & turkey with no cheese and a ton of veggies with an unsweetened iced tea and be on my way.0
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Estimated cals 14,0000
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The vast majority of meals served at restaurants have much larger portions than the average person needs.
That is one of the major causes of the weight problem in this country.0 -
The study is somewhat flawed. Subway can be very nutritious but you have to be mindful of the ingredients that you put on the sandwich. You can't slather it with mayo and oil and all kinds of meats and cheeses. It's very possible to have a good healthy sandwich but don't blame Subway entirely, the consumer must make good choices. Granted, Subway doesn't tell the complete truth but relative to McDonald's it is so much better.0
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The one thing I will criticize Subway for is the way they slather on the mayo. The website assumes 1 tablespoon of mayo. They put on at least 3 or 4, in my experience. That's the difference between 60 cals and 240 cals. Even if you're carefully checking the website, if you don't pay attention there you could be consuming almost 200 more calories than you think.
I always ask for a single 'line' of mayo, which is about a TBSP on a six inch sub.0 -
Exactly!This really has nothing to do with Subway. It only shows that people make bad choices and don't care how many calories they are eating. I could easily turn a sub from Subway into an unhealthy meal by piling on loads of mayo, oil, cheese and other condiments and then grabbing a large soda, cookies and a bag of chips. Or...I could go to Subway and get a ham & turkey with no cheese and a ton of veggies with an unsweetened iced tea and be on my way.0 -
So it's not that Subway, McDonald's or other fast food restaurants are worse than we think, it's that people suck at estimating calories? Oh, that's why I usually look up nutrition information prior to going places like that. :ohwell:
me too
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The one thing I will criticize Subway for is the way they slather on the mayo. The website assumes 1 tablespoon of mayo. They put on at least 3 or 4, in my experience. That's the difference between 60 cals and 240 cals. Even if you're carefully checking the website, if you don't pay attention there you could be consuming almost 200 more calories than you think.
I always ask for a single 'line' of mayo, which is about a TBSP on a six inch sub.
BTW, I understand from a pretty good source that most of the mayo they use is the low fat variety as it's cheaper. In many places, you have to request the full fat stuff to get it.0 -
The people that you are talking about are idiots that don't care how much they eat.0
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The thing is that Subway advertises as a healthy place to eat because they offer healthy options. Most fast food places do nowadays. You can eat a healthier meal at McDonald's if you really know what to look for. A grilled chicken sandwich and small fries from McD's is going to be a better choice than ordering something like a footlong pepperoni meatball with cheese meal from Subway. It's in the customer's perception, which is what this study really tracked. Neither place is going to be "healthy" for you, but you can make better choices if you want to eat there.0
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I'm still trying to work out what on earth a 4000 calorie meal looks like... Let's go with McDonalds:
3 crispy chicken clubs (670 a piece) = 2010
Large fries = 500
Large soda = 270
Large M&M McFlurry = 930
Apple pie = 250.
That gets us to 3,960 calories. And a very very upset stomach.
forget the upset stomach. You won't even realize that your stomach is upset when your in a diabetic coma from all those sugars and carbs.0 -
People probably think they're eating fewer calories because they automatically think Subway is "healthier" due to the marketing. Slap the McDonald's label on something and people will overestimate its calorie content. Slap the Subway label on and people will underestimate.
There's nothing wrong with the actual sandwiches.0 -
1 BK Quad Stacker- 3,300 calories and 3 days worth of saturated fat for the average person. Just one....no fries...no drink. IMAGINE HOW FAT I WAS AS A CHILD!!0
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I'm still trying to work out what on earth a 4000 calorie meal looks like... Let's go with McDonalds:
3 crispy chicken clubs (670 a piece) = 2010
Large fries = 500
Large soda = 270
Large M&M McFlurry = 930
Apple pie = 250.
That gets us to 3,960 calories. And a very very upset stomach.
forget the upset stomach. You won't even realize that your stomach is upset when your in a diabetic coma from all those sugars and carbs.
That's only 450g of carbs and 200g of sugar...0 -
A 4,000 calorie meal seems impossible.
Then you're not trying hard enough.0 -
A footnote: 41 people were excluded from the study as outliers because their meals exceeded 4000 calories.
3385 people, 41 lucky winners. That's 1.2%!
wait...
You mean I'm in the top 1%?!?!?!?!?!? What do I win?!?!?!?
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I seriously have my doubts that people who eat at fast food restarurants once a week are counting calories. I guess they are trying to be healthy after all when they order a Big Mac, large fries and then get a diet coke they are trying to save a few calories (Sarcasm intended).0
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So it's not that Subway, McDonald's or other fast food restaurants are worse than we think, it's that people suck at estimating calories? Oh, that's why I usually look up nutrition information prior to going places like that. :ohwell:
Agreeing - Sorry people, but you can't be surprised if you didn't check the nutritional info before you went. That's your own damn fault. Subway is BETTER than some other choices, but I know it's not the best. No fast food is ever the best.0
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