What Causes NO weight loss when in a deficit???
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Well....
here's my question.....
have you checked body comp.?
What do you mean have I checked body comp?0 -
Inconsistent logging doesn't help either. There are many days where you have a bad day, then go 2-3 days of no logging at all, then a day of logging 1-2 food items... unless you're keeping track elsewhere, you may be above your TDEE more than you are below it.0
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Well....
here's my question.....
have you checked body comp.?
What do you mean have I checked body comp?
Your body composition.
In other words, have you been monitoring your body fat %, water%, Lean Body Mass, etc.? If so, has that changed? If so, what changes were made?0 -
Well....
here's my question.....
have you checked body comp.?
What do you mean have I checked body comp?
Your body composition.
In other words, have you been monitoring your body fat %, water%, Lean Body Mass, etc.? If so, has that changed? If so, what changes were made?
No idea, just know that as per body fat calculator im about 26% as per my height and weight. Healthy I know - but not good enough for me. Aiming for 20% and yummy! lol. Also, as per calulator LBM comes out to 116lbs. This is why i am eating 113g of protein per day as I heard we should eat 1g of protein per lb of LBM. As per fat .35 per lb of LBM. Im a little over though, the calculation equals i should eat 40g of fat but im eating 58g and the rest carbs from veggies, fruit, dairy,sauces.0 -
The one's I know of are
1) weighing too frequently
2) TOM
3) high salt intake resulting in water retention
4) alcohol consumption causing same ^
5) platform shoes
6) boots
7) forgetting to remove your waist cincher belt
8) weighing on the wrong/different time of day
9) using a different/broken scale
10) measuring food wrong or bad maths re: cals over a period of time
11) overestimating exercise cal burns and then eating back all the cals
12) unknown pregnancy weight gain
13) lying to yourself about what you ate
14) forgetting what you ate
15) not logging something, like handsful when you pass the candy jar, raisinettes bag, chips basket, etc. Over time.
16) choosing a "Free" food not to log and finding out later it was not really a food you should have considered free. (raisinettes.)
17) your jealous bestie who is not losing weight as fast as you pressing on the scale behind you with her foot.
18) same jealous bestie turning the dial at the bottom of the scale pretending to tie her shoe after weighing herself and then distracting you with compliments and jokes while you get on it so you won't notice it did not return to "zero".
Most of these can be corrected by correcting number "1)" I put them in bold. Some of them require fashion emergency, some require "just break up".0 -
if you've put a solid month together and the scale hasn't moved its 1 or 2 and almost definetly 2.
not even sure if one is going to do it if your at an honest defecit.
break out the food scale and the measuring cups. its really not optional0 -
i think the idea of 'metabolic shut down' due to eating at two heigh a defecit is a complete myth and really just something people tell themselves to feel better.
eating less calories then you burn is defeintly going to cause you to loose mass. it may slow down here and there for whatever reason, but if you simply didn't eat, you'd lose a lot of mass before you eventually died.
not really sure why this one keeps perpetuating. the only reason not to eat benieth a certain amount of calories is so that you body remains healthy and you don't loose too much muscle.0 -
^?....and ^^?? :huh:0
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Too many carbs even if the calories are below target. That's why people lose weight faster when carbs are restricted. Increase fat, lower carbs and the weight loss will resume.0
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Your BMI is 22, you're in great shape! That's pretty idealIm 5'9" and 155lbs. I was 140 before pregnancy and left my absolute BEST ever!!! Now im 18 months postpartum and here trying to getting smaller!!! Fat loss/muscle built whatever!!! but just smaller...
And bodies change post-partum, since you're still well under having a weight problem and you're at a healthy weight, your body might just like this weight. You look great 0 -
Too many carbs even if the calories are below target. That's why people lose weight faster when carbs are restricted. Increase fat, lower carbs and the weight loss will resume.
Yes, but weight loss still happens when carbs are the way I have them. People don't have to go extreme low carb to lose weight, they just need to go extreme low carb to lose weight fast. right?0 -
Thanks but im looking for 20% bf NOT current 26%. I like to be healthy at my smallest, not my biggest!
Your BMI is 22, you're in great shape! That's pretty idealIm 5'9" and 155lbs. I was 140 before pregnancy and left my absolute BEST ever!!! Now im 18 months postpartum and here trying to getting smaller!!! Fat loss/muscle built whatever!!! but just smaller... And bodies change post-partum, since you're still well under having a weight problem and you're at a healthy weight, your body might just like this weight. You look great 0 -
Inconsistent logging doesn't help either. There are many days where you have a bad day, then go 2-3 days of no logging at all, then a day of logging 1-2 food items... unless you're keeping track elsewhere, you may be above your TDEE more than you are below it.
This seems the most likely culprit. I went to check your diary and found the same trend. Log accurately and consistently, with a food scale, and see how you get on from there.0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
That's a little overly simplistic and not at all helpful. Do you actually have a helpful suggestion that may indicate why she's not at a deficit?0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
This is completely incorrect and uneducated. I've had several hormone issues that even with diet and exercise AND EATING A DEFICIT, I was unable to lose weight.
Issues that will effect weightloss
Hypothyroidism
PCOS
Cushings Disease0 -
Sleep apnea can cause weight gain, which exacerbates the sleep apnea, which creates a self-feeding cycle.0
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Inconsistent logging doesn't help either. There are many days where you have a bad day, then go 2-3 days of no logging at all, then a day of logging 1-2 food items... unless you're keeping track elsewhere, you may be above your TDEE more than you are below it.
This seems the most likely culprit. I went to check your diary and found the same trend. Log accurately and consistently, with a food scale, and see how you get on from there.
Yes, I just started June 1st with the new logging accurately and hitting macros and cals consistantly....0 -
#6 metabolic shutdown due to too much of a deficit for too long. If you're interested, YouTube Biolayne metabolic shutdown
I've been eating 1700cal since February and since eff all for progress, I even took a 1.5 week break from logging and eat whatever in April... then continued with 1700cal. (some days going over - definalely 2 days for sure) then June 1st Ive decided to cut to 1500cals and cutting out bread, pasta and rice. (i was always having wholegrain, but still). so im onto day 3 with under 100gram carbs a day and its okay but i really have to plan meals ahead to stick with this plan.
for your situation that sounds like a good plan.
Take pics/measurements
And when people drop carbs they will lose a lot of water weight (short term).
You may find this useful.
http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/dont-rely-on-the-random-number-generator/0 -
you sound just like me.
same height, same calories.
found that increasing from 1500 to 1700 has made no difference.
found that low carb, carb cycling, higher carb - whatever doesn't work.
found that working out less - working out more- hasn't made a difference.
just had a ton of blood work done. found out i'm hypoglycemic with thyroid issues. now on medication, hoping for the best.
the only difference is in the way my clothes fit. the scale goes up and down two or three pounds but i haven't lost in a YEAR and i've tried everything! it gets so disheartening. especially when you work your *kitten* off to try everything.
4theking is the dude to know on here- he's given me some great suggestions and i'd be lost without him. just started changing my diet and taking different supplements. SO we will see how it goes.
i'm with you!0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
This is completely incorrect and uneducated. I've had several hormone issues that even with diet and exercise AND EATING A DEFICIT, I was unable to lose weight.
Issues that will effect weightloss
Hypothyroidism
PCOS
Cushings Disease
You are talking about medical conditions there though. I think the poster that wrote the quoted bit, meant when there were no medical conditions present.0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
This is completely incorrect and uneducated. I've had several hormone issues that even with diet and exercise AND EATING A DEFICIT, I was unable to lose weight.
Issues that will effect weightloss
Hypothyroidism
PCOS
Cushings Disease
You are talking about medical conditions there though. I think the poster that wrote the quoted bit, meant when there were no medical conditions present.
Unfortunately, I have Type 1 diabetes and Hypothyroidism. Both controled but diabetes is so retarded and up and down blood glucose for no reasons sometimes.0 -
i'm sure there's any number of medical conditions that may make weightloss more difficult and/or complicated.
i'm quite certain there is no medical condtion out there thats going to magically force your body to retain mass if your flat out not eating.
there should be some happy medium for health weight loss in there somewhere.0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
Worst advice ever.
If you're not refeeding, do that first. Second... reverse diet and maintain hundreds more calories a day for a few weeks. Then, carb cycle and get at least 300g carbs every fourth day.
Leptin looks to be a major player in your problem.0 -
There is only one thing that could cause NO weight loss while in a
calorie deficit, and is not actually being in a calorie deficit.
Worst advice ever.
If you're not refeeding, do that first. Second... reverse diet and maintain hundreds more calories a day for a few weeks. Then, carb cycle and get at least 300g carbs every fourth day.
Leptin looks to be a major player in your problem.
Lmao0 -
I was in a similar situation before where it was seemingly mathematically impossible for me not to lose weight. And yet, I wasn't.
As mentioned before, it could be that you're not actually in deficit. The stupid body is a tricky thing. If you stay at a consistently lower calorie intake for a long period of time, your body will just simply lower the basal metabolism rate to match the intake. Gotta love evolution. The way to beat that is to simply raise the metabolism. I say simply, but this involves building muscle, which isn't terribly easy. Add weights to your regimen, if you haven't already. I did, and my weight started plummeting.
Secondly, there are some new studies about prolonged deficit eating and mixing in days where you increase your intake to what your metabolism should be. So, for every 2 or 3 days you spend in deficit, spend a day at normal.
Another option that you might want to consider is splitting your meals across 6 to 7 times per day. Sure, ultimately, it's all a matter of calories in and calories out, but I've heard for years that eating every 2 hours will keep your metabolism stable and boosted.
Just some thoughts from a fellow dieter who has hit roadblocks in the past. Good luck!0 -
I was in a similar situation before where it was seemingly mathematically impossible for me not to lose weight. And yet, I wasn't.
As mentioned before, it could be that you're not actually in deficit. The stupid body is a tricky thing. If you stay at a consistently lower calorie intake for a long period of time, your body will just simply lower the basal metabolism rate to match the intake. Gotta love evolution. The way to beat that is to simply raise the metabolism. I say simply, but this involves building muscle, which isn't terribly easy. Add weights to your regimen, if you haven't already. I did, and my weight started plummeting.
Secondly, there are some new studies about prolonged deficit eating and mixing in days where you increase your intake to what your metabolism should be. So, for every 2 or 3 days you spend in deficit, spend a day at normal.
Another option that you might want to consider is splitting your meals across 6 to 7 times per day. Sure, ultimately, it's all a matter of calories in and calories out, but I've heard for years that eating every 2 hours will keep your metabolism stable and boosted.
Just some thoughts from a fellow dieter who has hit roadblocks in the past. Good luck!
Precisely... exactly what I alluded to above this post (except for stretching meal times out. meal frequency means nothing).0 -
Just wondering if someone can list the things that could cause NO weight loss while in a calorie deficit. The ones I know are:
1) Thyroid issues
2) Not logging accurately
Both of those could result in you not being in a deficit when you think you are.
1) means that all the online TDEE guesstimators will be even more out than normal, so getting a measurement of RMR would perhaps be helpful.
Finding the point at which you start to gain weight (by increasing food intake) may be a way to establish your actual TDEE.0 -
I don't have diabetes, but I am hypothyroid, and I can tell you that your doctor may say that your numbers are "in the right range" and you can still not be correcting that issue for you. I was on the low-side of the scale (at .5), and after doing a "second generation test" - my doctor said I was normal. But - I wasn't feeling good and I wasn't losing weight - the opposite, in fact. I read studies that show the so-called normal range that most labs/clinics use (.5 - 5.5) is actually too wide, and especially for women, the range should be more like 2-3, when measuring your TSH. Also - there's another test that can be done to see how effective the T3/T4 conversion is. And - it is really important to check your TSH, T3/T4 annually, or after major life events (like pregnancy). Our bodies change over time - what was good last year for controlling your thyroid may not be good this year. Other hormonal changes, stress (hormones in that), pregnancy, surgery, etc. - can all impact how your metabolism works --- or doesn't.
Once I got into the 2-3 range, my weight started dropping. Mind you, it isn't fast at all. But it is going in the right direction. And I have had to adjust my meds over the years - sometimes upping it, sometimes lowering it - all to keep it in the range that allows me to feel good and have more control over my metabolism (and weight loss).
The kicker to all of this: as women, *all* hormones in general will have a huge impact on our weight. I'm in menopause, and I can tell you that weight loss is infinitely more difficult now. It doesn't seem like you're in that same situation but your hormones are probably having a big impact with the diabetes and thyroid issues rolled into one.
I've had to be extra diligent about tracking my food during weight loss periods - and learn how to eat correctly to maintain. That's because "free food" that I used to ignore is no longer free. C'est la vie.
I'd say - go back and talk to your doctor about what is happening (or what isn't) and ask to explore other options of why you aren't losing. Be certain that it isn't your thyroid or diabetes (or some other medical reason).
Good luck!0
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