Antidepressants - Experiences.. good or bad?

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  • SkinnyMozza
    SkinnyMozza Posts: 66 Member
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    This is a very serious topic and should be treated as such.

    If anyone on here feels they are 'really down/dark' for longer than a few days with no associated reason or has any other reason to believe they or anyone else they know may be depressed, suicidal or anything similar, it is extremely important they see a Physchiatrist and a Psychologist/Therapist...good ones that have been recommended! These are the only people that have been specifically trainined in diagnosis and if medication is required (Physchiatrist) and ongoing therapy (Psychologist - aka someone to chat to help work stuff out).

    These people are not scary. They are there to help, and can change your life. They can save your life, or the life or someone you care about!!!

    There are two main aspects to depression (some have one or the other or both) ...generally speaking ; chemical and circumstatial. The first is a chemical imbalance in your brain which needs to be treated in some way... I would argue medication, but others on this site have mentioned exercise, Omega 3 fish oil etc. The second is Circumstatial. ie Depression following the death of a loved one. This will be treated with Therapy (obviously some wounds never heal). In genearal most depression is treated using all methods... is exercise, natural methods, medication and ongoing therapy.

    A GP can be a good place to start for a chat or referrels, however I would be very very skeptical to get a diagnosis of depression, or be treated with medication from your local GP as they are NOT SPECIALISTS in mental treament and this is exactly how depression gets over diagnosed and medication gets over prescribed! In my experience... GPs basically say everyone is depressed and will just hand out medication like Candy... very very dangerous!!!!! It will make things worse if you dont need it!! But some GPs are better than others. You be the judge.

    My hope to everyone is that people keep the lines of communication open, as the more we talk about this stuff... the more we can help others.

    If all these appointments take too long or are too expensive.. all countries/states should have free hotlines you can call for information

    I hope this helps a litle :flowerforyou:
  • pixtotts
    pixtotts Posts: 552 Member
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    So for all the people saying they're against people taking medication. #1 You're not a doctor #2 look at all the suicides...THEY.DIDNT.GET.HELP Help meaning medication & proper therapy! Now what? They should have known better? They should have ate better? What is it? I swear society views on what is "right" is all screwed up.

    If medication is what helps ones mind & soul...LET IT FKN BE....& mind your own damn business!

    Usually I dont reply to people who write comments like that but it was so very angry and very incorrect that I cant not reply to it...
    you would be right if the people who think antidepressants arent the best way to treat depression were suggesting she just sit at home wait for it to go away... I have seen Noone on this thread say that... what they have instead done is given easy to find/do relatively cheap suggestions which can have the same result (interms of reactions within the body) as taking antidepressants without the side effects and without the added stress of having to go to a doctor and discuss something you just dont want to talk about.
    You can go for a run or take some vitamins today you may have to wait weeks for a doctors appointment and then even longer if they do give you drugs before they take effect...

    "mind your own damn business"
    she has posted in a public forum asking for opinions that is what people are doing... I would suggest maybe you listen to that instead....

    Don't read on if your easily offended or upset.... just a little disclaimer before anyone tells me off :P
    and #2 .... Suicides don't occur because people on the internet suggest alternative therapies to antidepressants. Chances are a suicidal person won't consider ever taking antidepressants, or seeing a doctor, or seeking any type of therapy. A suicidal person won't forecast that they are suicidal. A suicidal person doesn't want a cure for their depression, they don't want treatment or therapy because they believe that the only thing that will make them better is to terminate their life...
    How do I know this? because I was that suicidal person 6 years ago.

    As long as someone still feels they want help and to try they will get better.
  • msliu7911
    msliu7911 Posts: 639 Member
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    Some people have a predisposed vulnerability to develop psychological disorders, all it takes to elicit this malady is a stressor of some kind (Diathesis stress model). Whether it be a death of a loved one, divorce, job loss, or even everyday problems ramped up to a great degree, some people will have a "nervous breakdown" or go into a state of temporary depression. For others, it can be relapse and substance abuse.

    Some people may even develop a temporary severe psychosis that leads to hospitalization. Deep abdominal breathing, walking, meditation, acupuncture, massage, yoga, self-hypnosis, CB T, progressive relaxation can reduce the stress.Such as defeating irrational thoughts, and using the ABC model (http://www.basic-counseling-skills.com/cognitive-behavioral-therapy.html). A huge source of stress is based in our beliefs, namely irrational ones that cause hopelessness.

    Conflict resolution would also avail your problems as it seems your relationship is a huge source of stress.

    You make some very valid points... and interestingly enough I am predisposed to serious depressions (runs in the family). Hence, why my mom recommended the antidepressant.

    I went to counseling a while back for a separate issue, but one thing she did talk about was conflict resolution and how important that can be. We all learn it when we are younger, but as we get older we tend to forget these basic concepts.
  • msliu7911
    msliu7911 Posts: 639 Member
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    I didn't realize when I posted this I'd get such a great response...so glad this is out there though for others to reference.

    I've decided to lean toward trying every possible way to eliminate the stress and issues that are causing this depression vs. taking meds. I do exercise, but not as frequent as I probably should to help combat my stress. Also, I've made an appointment with my counselor (who I haven't seen in a while) to discuss the issues I'm having and see if she has any good advice or methods that might help.

    Thanks to everyone who responded!
  • dazydawn
    dazydawn Posts: 55 Member
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    I took generic WellButrin for about 1 1/2 years. Life seemed to hard for too long. I kept wondering what the point of it all was. This had been for several years. I'm not a person who goes for pills. I wait out the headache before I take the Tylenol, that type of thing. I figured I could get out of it with exercise and healthier foods, but I couldn't muster any energy to take the tiniest step. I went to the doctor for my annual (my first time seeing her) and she asked how I was doing.....I fell apart right there in the office. I took the prescription. I felt great for a few weeks and then the paranoia set in. I thought people didn't like me. A crazy person moved into my head and whispered anxious, insecure things in my ear. I quit taking them. Fell into the hole. Restarted them with a small dose of Celexa to temper the crazy. That worked well for over a year. I stopped taking all of it a few months ago. I wanted to give the healthy life a try and didn't feel I could judge the impact while I was medicated. So far so good.

    The moral of my story is that sometimes, if you don't have the strength to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, the meds can give you some breathing room to get your head together. They do numb you a little bit. Makes the bad feelings easier to take, but makes the good feelings a little dull. It isn't for everyone and it isn't without potential pitfalls. Some people have to go through several different pills to get to the right one. Some people have really bad experiences with the pills and some people can't get off of them. it's nuts. Try other routes if you can. Step up your exercise for the endorphins, make sure your nutrition is up to par and find a good counselor. Having an objective soul to speak to can do wonders to smooth out the stresses of life.

    Good luck to you, whichever you choose to do.
  • anemoneprose
    anemoneprose Posts: 1,805 Member
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    Good luck to you, OP! Wanted just to say about the night-time anxiety and sleep: making movements towards resolving your daytime problems will help. Meanwhile, when thoughts are really intrusive in bed:
    - first of all, leave the bed if you're tossing/turning for longer than 30 minutes, or you'll associate the bed with that anxiety. Go to another room
    - write down all your worries, to spew them out of your head. This in itself can be tiring - pinning those electric fishies down and naming them and writing them out is actually a little bit boring :)

    As far as taking things, the one thing that's worked best for me (prescription or not) with few ill effects (for me!) is Valerian root. German and Swiss companies are better at making consistent grades of the stuff. I take them as directed on the bottle about an hour before sleep, when I'm having trouble. Much more effective and fewer side effects than OTC and prescription sleep meds, which I found left me groggy.

    (Also, the prescription hypnotics have been found to increase risk of death: http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/news/20120227/sleeping-pills-called-as-risky-as-cigarettes )

    Time your exercise to help with sleep. Do anything vigorous RIGHT after work, or in the morning. Past 6-7pm you'd want to keep exercise moderate to gentle, to avoid aggravating the jitters.

    Again, good luck :)
  • charliesgold
    charliesgold Posts: 235 Member
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    I take Prozac, if I did not take Prozac I would have succumbed to despair years ago. I began on it when I was in college and got control of my life. I came off it after graduating and did fairly well until a few years later when I once again fell off the deep end. I know that I, myself, cannot be without my meds. For the sanity of others and for myself, I will not be quitting them any time soon. That said, different strokes for different folks. Some people genuinely don't need meds. Some people need time. Some people need therapy. Some people need time, meds and therapy.

    Don't let yourself get to a point of complete despair like I did the second time around though.

    This is a very personal choice that depends on a great number of factors. For me a significant family history of depression in addition to a rough upbringing and a hectic adult life all culminated and resulted in clinical depression which seems to constantly hover in the background.

    Do what you feel is right for you. Just know that antidepressants aren't a cure all. I still have really bad days, eventually my body has adjusted and I've had to up my dose, I have some side effects from the meds...but for me, these things are preferable than life without meds or the risk of trying new meds that might have worse side effects.

    If you're wondering I take Sandoz brand (Brand makes a HUGE difference for me) generic Prozac, 30mg a day. My biggest side effect to date is the development of motion sickness in addition to occasional headaches, although I had headaches before I started so attributing this to meds is questionable.

    I'd be happy to answer any questions if you want to PM me :)

    Why not try some methods of letting off steam and releasing stress and reducing tension before meds? However, if you are in dire straits DEFINITELY talk to a psychiatrist or your GP asap.
  • Phoenix_Rising
    Phoenix_Rising Posts: 11,417 Member
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    I didn't realize when I posted this I'd get such a great response...so glad this is out there though for others to reference.

    I've decided to lean toward trying every possible way to eliminate the stress and issues that are causing this depression vs. taking meds. I do exercise, but not as frequent as I probably should to help combat my stress. Also, I've made an appointment with my counselor (who I haven't seen in a while) to discuss the issues I'm having and see if she has any good advice or methods that might help.

    Thanks to everyone who responded!

    Sounds like a great choice!!!
    Best wishes and I hope you feel better soon! :flowerforyou: