Men and Women have different discussions..........
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These threads bum me out. First someone paints women as catty with a broad brush (no pun intended), and then a bunch of women agree with this tripe and pile on saying "that's why I have only guy friends" blah blah. Well I'm no misogynist, this crap makes me disappointed in everyone equally.0
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Okay while getting a haircut today (and being the only one in the shop at the time) the female cutting my hair and her peer, both at least 35 years old, were conversing about their work and people they work with. Lots of "I can't stand her" and "I don't like her" and basic criticism of other females were the topics of conversation between the two. Now some will say it's just a single incident, but I've noticed this with other salons I've gotten my haircut at when females carry on conversations with other females.
If I get it done at a barber shop (rarity since there are hardly any around), the males talk about sports and cut up on each other with laughter amongst all.
So I gotta feel this has an effect on how females view themselves whenever they are assessing themselves.
This is just my observation from experiences I have getting my haircut done in salons. Usually my brother cuts my hair, but on occasion I'll hit up salons in town.
Thoughts?
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women honestly bring problems to themselves; I think we are configured with a *****y gene! hahah0 -
I have a wife, 4 daughters ages 18-17-14-12, 2 granddaughters, 1 female dog, 1 female cat. I go to certain salon cause I like the way the lady cuts my hair.
The only thing I hear anymore, not by choice mind you it's a filter that morphed over time is, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....... give me money
hahhahahahahah this is awesome mate!0 -
Not to be mistaken, I love the women in my life. But I'm surrounded by teen girl drama and chatter. I've since developed a strong case of selective hearing.I have a wife, 4 daughters ages 18-17-14-12, 2 granddaughters, 1 female dog, 1 female cat. I go to certain salon cause I like the way the lady cuts my hair.
The only thing I hear anymore, not by choice mind you it's a filter that morphed over time is, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....... give me money0 -
I have a wife, 4 daughters ages 18-17-14-12, 2 granddaughters, 1 female dog, 1 female cat. I go to certain salon cause I like the way the lady cuts my hair.
The only thing I hear anymore, not by choice mind you it's a filter that morphed over time is, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....... give me money
hahhahahahahah this is awesome mate!
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i'm intj and female; my interactions do not largely entail, nail polish, fashion, or sports. how about, "different people have different discussions"? tired of gender generalizations. kthnxbye.0
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I'm going to go ahead and throw the term "selection bias" out there.
My conversations usually revolve around training or nutrition... but the last conversation I had with a girlfriend was an inappropriate one discussing mouth hugs. Consider the source of your conclusion...0 -
I think we all talk about the same things.. Just in different ways.
For example:
Work Related Grievances
Me: I can't stand Susie. She's always making passive aggressive comments about my work and I hate the way she says the opposite of what I do at staff meetings.
Him: *Punches Bob in the face and walks away*
Housework
Me: Last night, I washed the dishes, folded and put away laundry, took the dog for a walk, fed, bathed and put the kids to sleep and managed to catch my show. What do you think he did? He dropped his plate in the sink and watched TV for the rest of the night.
Him: I'm learning, man. I care about her feelings. Last night, I put my plate in the sink for her. She didn't even have to do it for me!
Kid's Accomplishments
Me: Little Brenda can count to ten, sing her ABCs and 3 different nursery rhymes!
Him: I taught Brenda how to pick her nose and wipe it on the dog last night.. I recorded it, wanna see?
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BAH.0
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These threads bum me out. First someone paints women as catty with a broad brush (no pun intended), and then a bunch of women agree with this tripe and pile on saying "that's why I have only guy friends" blah blah. Well I'm no misogynist, this crap makes me disappointed in everyone equally.
This.0 -
Somebody told me this, and it's so eerily familiar to me:
Men fight their enemies, women fight their friends0 -
I'm going to go ahead and throw the term "selection bias" out there.
My conversations usually revolve around training or nutrition... but the last conversation I had with a girlfriend was an inappropriate one discussing mouth hugs. Consider the source of your conclusion...
Right, we aren't so one dimensional to only talk about other women (which I typically don't talk about anyone if they aren't standing in front of me), but we DO like to talk about mouth hugging and amazing stuff like that.0 -
Anyone can endlessly complain about people who affect their life.
My husband *****es about people he works with to me. I ***** about people I work with to him. I do not think this is a men vs. women thing. I have 3 brothers and all of them have also complained about people to me.0 -
"Don't try to understand women , women understand women and they hate each other "
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These threads bum me out. First someone paints women as catty with a broad brush (no pun intended), and then a bunch of women agree with this tripe and pile on saying "that's why I have only guy friends" blah blah. Well I'm no misogynist, this crap makes me disappointed in everyone equally.
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Perhaps generalizing from women's salon talk would be akin to generalizing from guys' locker room talk.
Not all women are vapid backstabbers just like not all men talk incessantly about who they nailed on Friday night and how crazy she was.0 -
LOL, I can definitely identify with the cackling and hateful conversation some women hold in salons. I usually like to zone out by reading a magazine or something.
But my impression of barber shops isn't any better; I don't frequent any barber shops, but a few years ago I went one time with my then-boyfriend to his barbershop. And it was all men in there. I don't know if they just didn't see me, but the locker room gossip being discussed (apparently someone there had been trying to get with some chick, went on a date, and scored) was absolutely, completely disgusting! The filthy way they talked about women, her body, and that sexual experience was shameful and damn near misogynistic; I couldn't stand to sit there and listen.
I think I'll stick with the salons, lol...0 -
I definitely agree with this. I have more female friends on MFP than I do in real life. I've always only hung out with men because of this reason. A lot of women are just plain catty and mean.0
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Anyone can endlessly complain about people who affect their life.
My husband *****es about people he works with to me. I ***** about people I work with to him. I do not think this is a men vs. women thing. I have 3 brothers and all of them have also complained about people to me.
But, I thought that men only talked about how much they love everyone and want to give them hugs. And rainbows, sunshine, flowers and unicorns.0 -
When I hear stuff like this, it makes me look a little closer at myself.
Personally, a little venting to a close and trusted friend or family member can be therapeutic. I try to monitor myself, and once I've gotten it off my chest, my goal is to let it go. Sometimes I am successful and sometimes not so much.
Professionally -- oh no. This kind of behavior is unacceptable, no matter what your job it. I have been in the same situation, getting my hair cut and the stylists cackle and go on about really personal and catty things, talking with each other, and ignore me.
I really do feel uncomfortable, in any situation, from a sales clerk to health care, when people act like their relationship with their co worker is more important to them than I am.
Save the kvetching for your own personal space and be a professional at work, whatever that happens to be.0 -
Anyone can endlessly complain about people who affect their life.
My husband *****es about people he works with to me. I ***** about people I work with to him. I do not think this is a men vs. women thing. I have 3 brothers and all of them have also complained about people to me.
But, I thought that men only talked about how much they love everyone and want to give them hugs. And rainbows, sunshine, flowers and unicorns.
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I've often heard it said that "women could rule the world, if only they could learn to get along".
I once heard it said if women ruled the world there'd be no more war...just nations that are no longer speaking with one another.0 -
It's a man thing. We tend to jostle each other with insults because the more insulting it is, the funnier. And men pretty much know that we not serious about it.I know there's articles out there discussing the psychology of why some women do this. Not all do, but I've observed it as well. I also have a different perspective. I'm a lesbian, and among my gay/lesbian friends, we don't have those kinds of conversations, either. Not to say we can't gossip, though.:laugh:
I've observed men teasing each other relentlessly, and laugh it off. But, at times, it comes across as downright insulting and mean-spirited. I'm just as curious why men kid with each other like that, as you'll rarely find women teasing each other as such.
I saw one of the HS kids in the gym with a boot on his foot and asked if it was for getting injured playing hopscotch. And of course he and his friends laughed it off and thought it was funny.
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Lol, my brother (who cuts my hair is gay) and so are a few cousins. And yes they are DRAMA. But it's hella funny. It's hardly ever viscous. It's more like.........."oh whatever".I know there's articles out there discussing the psychology of why some women do this. Not all do, but I've observed it as well. I also have a different perspective. I'm a lesbian, and among my gay/lesbian friends, we don't have those kinds of conversations, either. Not to say we can't gossip, though.:laugh:
Wait you've never had a gay man go into the mode? I worked with a gay man before and he would go on and on about how only pretty people should be allowed to work and all the ugly people should be sent on an island. He definitely would have sent me to the island in a heart beat.
Oh gawd, gay men are their own universe! Yes, I've had them go into "mode". Usually has me rolling in laughter. I was thinking more "lesbian" than "gay". Gay men do it to such an extreme, I can't take it seriously.
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Personally, I'm a woman, and I hate girl/salon talk.
I don't feel the need to trash talk other females. Never have. I'm always craking jokes so I've always really clicked with men mostly. My best friends of like 10 years are girls but are more like me though, so we click.
I can't stand catty women or gossiping. Maybe it's because I'm so caught up in my own life that I honestly don't care about Jennifer's one last stand, or who said what about who. It's so pointless to me. I'll take men teasing and punching each other any day, at least that's entertaining.0 -
Perhaps generalizing from women's salon talk would be akin to generalizing from guys' locker room talk.
Not all women are vapid backstabbers just like not all men talk incessantly about who they nailed on Friday night and how crazy she was.
Very true. Some of the deepest and enlightening conversations I've had have been with male friends. Over beers of course lol0 -
You need to find some more interesting females to associate with. Look for childless females who have big feet and enjoy playing WOW or some other rpg. They cant talk about cute shoes because there are none for them, no kids, and if they like games like that chances they are a big nerd and have some interests in life other than the mall..
HAHAHAH! You almost described me perfectly...except I have tiny feet for my height (7-7.5 @ 5'8"). I'm childless, play WoW (really well...), used to play EvE-online (even better), race cars, dive master, college football fanatic (and newly minted Patriots fan now that Tebow will be there...I'm a Gator), and all around adrenaline junky (which is tempering somewhat with age, I suppose).
I've always been a tomboy, authentic car-chic, and have had very few / selective female friends. I'm NOT into gossip, and my "girliness" is limited to a SMALL collection of purses, shoes I hardly have occasion to wear, and Brighton / Pandora jewelry that I buy for myself. And even those collections didn't start until the last five years.
If given the choice between a new shiny part for one of my cars, or a new fancy purse / jewelry....I'd pick the car EVERY time. Vry few women can relate, lol.
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honestly, i dont care what women haircutters are talking about when they are shampooing my hair and their boobs are in my face.
roflmao! :::dies:::0 -
Like I mentioned, it's an observation I've noticed. Just in salons. I haven't noticed hearing it anywhere else. Even in my gym.Way to perpetuate the idea that all women are b*itches who hate each other, and spend their time talking about nothing else other than how much of a hor Susan is, and how Annie's hair looks like s*hit.
To all women who have posted about how they can't get along with other women, it's time to grow out of the hischool phase of your lives.
Seriously, every time someone says "other women don't like me, so I only have guys friends", what I actually hear is " I am kind'of a burlitch, and I'd rather put women down to get all the male attention".
Also, womenz is just like people, yo. I promise.
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Lol, you make it seem as if I said ALL women are like this when that's certainly not the case.These threads bum me out. First someone paints women as catty with a broad brush (no pun intended), and then a bunch of women agree with this tripe and pile on saying "that's why I have only guy friends" blah blah. Well I'm no misogynist, this crap makes me disappointed in everyone equally.
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