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    1/2 Italian, Can I put "mixed-race" on my job application?

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    • Posts: 578 Member
      Lord no. Italians are definitely white. Just like Germans, the Dutch, Icelanders, the Polish *insert caucasian European race here*

      Actually, there are black Germans. But German would be their nationality, and black would be there race.
    • Posts: 578 Member
      "based on my racial handicap"

      i don't know what this means.

      Good point, me niether and I'm curious.
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      I'm going to be completely honest here and admit half the time I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I mean I see you posting in threads and I'm like 'but is he serious or kidding...' I'm not good at sarcasm face to face either though :)

      I am always serious.
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      Actually, there are black Germans. But German would be their nationality, and black would be there race.

      Oh so now nationality has to do with where you were born and not the color of your skin? :huh:
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      I am always serious.

      You need to lighten up! Why so serious always? Why Why Whyyyyy?!
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      You need to lighten up! Why so serious always? Why Why Whyyyyy?!

      Too much protein.
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      Oh so now nationality has to do with where you were born and not the color of your skin? :huh:


      I'm guessing there was a sarcastic tone to that, but yes that is exactly what it means.
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      I'm guessing there was a sarcastic tone to that, but yes that is exactly what it means.

      That is racist.
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      because it's 2013 and we should be beyond that but some people and organizations are slow to catch up....so they DO have to ask that...

      government regulations are a symptom of the popular culture....

      Um...you can check that you don't want to answer.
      The reason those questions are there are so employers can track the racial make up of applicants and try to avoid getting sued by being "diverse" enough.
    • Posts: 321 Member
      Ugh, I can't be bothered to get into a debate - I'm too tired.

      It's 2013. You can elect to not disclose ethnic origin but then you get the inevitable "Why did they refuse to answer" question, which kind of around with the whole purpose of the tick box in the first place. Few companies like what they consider to be "rebels" - it may be different elsewhere.

      As for diversity - it's gone too far now. The long and short of it is this - you employ the right person for the job. You don't employ someone who isn't capable based on their ethnic origin to keep up with statistics generated by the government to look appealing. I don't care if that person isn't even a person, all I care is that they do the job, they are comfortable and everything is harmonious. I'd hate to be hired just to conform with a statistical guideline.
    • Posts: 1,387 Member
      Unless you've got the peen to back it up, you'd better say white. Lying on a job application is grounds for dismissal.
    • Posts: 48
      italian isn't white? mixed raced? have you actually even been to italy? people from rome (central italy) and further north are blond haired and blue eyed. can't get any more white than that, i guess.

      i think it would be great to go to nyc, jersey or chgo and tell an italian that they're not white, they're a mixed race. good luck with that.
    • Posts: 605 Member
      I always put other, though I am heinz 57. Besides I disagree with affirmative action and their reporting of it. I believe there was a time and place but now that time has passed and that policy has now effectively implemented that same racism it tried to equalize.

      Besides how do they know what nationality I am even if I look a specific way?

      I'm heinz 57, but all Northern European. I completely agree. Our country still struggles with "equality" but a lot of "inequality" is self-imposed. I do not believe anyone deserves a leg up based solely on race anymore. If you want something bad enough, you CAN achieve it here (in the USA), with hard work & dedication....regardless of race.
    • Posts: 8,219 Member
      Unless you've got the peen to back it up, you'd better say white. Lying on a job application is grounds for dismissal.

      Do you think they are going to request DNA so they can figure out his "real" race??? There was a time when "passing" for white was all the rage, looks are not enough to determine racial divides, and any employer would have a heck of a time justifying a DNA request based on a job application.
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      Good point, me niether and I'm curious.

      Maybe instead of talking with his hands he only talks with one hand?
    • Posts: 265 Member
      I'm black but whenever I see a question like that on any application I just check "Other" Just because
    • Posts: 2 Member
      Go for it! Might be funny to see the outcome.

      I'm the palest mixed race guy ever, when I put mixed race people don't believe me.
    • Posts: 535 Member
      Yes, Italians are considered white. You are welcome.

      This.

      Italian is a nationality, not a race. Are you actually from Italy? I suspect you're not, seeing as you indicated you're only 1/2 Italian. I am a first generation American, my mother was born in Sicily, and my father is of 100% Italian descent; therefore I am 100% Italian. I put "caucasian" when asked my race. I was born in America, I'm white.
    • Posts: 268 Member
      Italian is more of a nationality. Your race would be White. I am part Italian, part Black, and part Hispanic (not sure the country of my family origin for the Hispanic part due to adoption) but I am considered Mixed. If you are a bunch of stuff like Polish, German, and Italian, your race is White. Your a Mixed nationality. :wink:
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      That is racist.

      LMAO it's fact. Race and ethnicity are 2 entirely different things. I am a mixed woman so these types of discussions come up alot. Example, there are black Germans. German is their ETHNICITY, black is their race. Just as their are white Africans. White is their race, African is their ethnicity.
    • Posts: 578 Member
      Italian is more of a nationality. Your race would be White.

      Ding ding ding! Exactly what I'm saying.
    • Posts: 2,178 Member
      Literal people are literal.
    • Posts: 2,925 Member
      We're white, but get great freakin tans. Tutto bene
    • Posts: 71
      I like to get creative. I make my own box on the form and write human next to it and THEN check that box. :-)
    • Posts: 4,741 Member
      We're white, but get great freakin tans. Tutto bene

      I like this!
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      Too much protein.

      Okay. That makes sense.
    • Posts: 4,741 Member
      ok, I just decided to put down "pacific islander" I figure if I'm going to be a race, I'd like to live on an island. Sicily is an island. and there is no Mediterranean islander, so its close enough.
    • Posts: 19,809 Member
      I'm 100% English - which in reality means a few parts Irish, some Dutch Huguenot, mix of Saxon, Norman, maybe Roman, maybe Viking, maybe Celtic...

      If "mongrel" isn't an option I always choose "other" just to mess up the stats.
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