For the advice givers!

Ophidion
Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
It is common to see new MFP members asking for advice with calorie deficits/goals, exercise programs etc

I propose that people maybe put a little more effort into their responses than "Eat more", "Hope you enjoy losing muscle", "this works for me" etc

Maybe something a little more helpful like these links...

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

Or if you are competent enough, offer to do their numbers for them don't just throw an imaginary number at them or one that is working for you, unless the person has the exact same stats as you they are irrelevant.

Also responses that are heavy in terminology may not help as once again they maybe new and things like TDEE and BMR as well as Anabolic/Catabolic would mean little to them.

I know people tend to reply with the best of intentions but we know where the best of intentions can lead someone.

Finally just wanted to say there are obviously individuals who are not receptive to advice and you get your occasional lame troll effort, but in the end it is best to hand someone the tools to help themselves or if you have a solid understanding of the science maybe show them the way.

The MFP community is a very supportive community but lets try to keep the Broscience to a minimum.
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  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
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  • BigDnSW
    BigDnSW Posts: 641 Member
    Amen Brother! Can I git a witness! Seriously...dig it and thanks :drinker:
  • palmerar
    palmerar Posts: 489 Member
    I aggree, I think sometimes all the veterans forget that new people actually don't know and just because a forum topic has been beaten to death it is probably still a new concept to someone else. I try to give the advice that I would've wanted starting out and if the topic gets out of hand just don't go back to it.
  • Amson19
    Amson19 Posts: 17 Member
    Thank you for posting this!
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    I aggree, I think sometimes all the veterans forget that new people actually don't know and just because a forum topic has been beaten to death it is probably still a new concept to someone else. I try to give the advice that I would've wanted starting out and if the topic gets out of hand just don't go back to it.
    I think the veterans tend to do the least harm and only reply harshly when the OP or someone else reply's is in a unhealthy or defensive manner that is only contributing to the problem.

    More often then not it tends to be the newer members who are all to eager to offer vague answers or Broscience based upon a little information/experience they have gathered from losing in their first month or so on MFP.

    I am sure the veterans have RSI from facepalming when they read yet another 500-600cals a day post, but generally they are pretty helpful and a wealth of information.

    I forgot to mention the "Eat, Train, Progress." Group, very helpful and well versed in fitness.
  • HeidiCooksSupper
    HeidiCooksSupper Posts: 3,831 Member
    Bump-ity-bump-bump-bump ...
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Came for the snark.

    But pretty much agree, OP. I kinda like all the "starvation mode" answers I see in the forums though. Keeps it light . . .
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    I agree that people generally have good intentions, but simply regurgitating blanket misinformed statements doesn't help anyone.
  • MyseriMapleleaf
    MyseriMapleleaf Posts: 81 Member
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    I want to be your best friend, lol. You're a mess!!
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    umm, who you calling a mess?

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  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    umm, who you calling a mess?

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :noway: who are you calling a mess? I know it can't be singlefemalelawyer, so why am I a mess...I needz to know.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    umm, who you calling a mess?

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  • Greenrun99
    Greenrun99 Posts: 2,065 Member
    New people can always use the Search feature before posting the same topics over and over as well.. ya know.. like the opposite.
  • KatLifter
    KatLifter Posts: 1,314 Member
    In for the indignant replies
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  • lj8576
    lj8576 Posts: 156
    great links. Thanks
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    New people can always use the Search feature before posting the same topics over and over as well.. ya know.. like the opposite.
    Agreed, but there is often a glitch in the Matrix and Déjà vu tends to happen...some newbies don't even understand the search function or feel that it is overwhelming and are looking for some more personally tailored advice.

    In a perfect world people will do their own research and come to intelligent conclusions without the help of others but I can't see it happening soon so I decided to post a few suggestions to deal with the current situation as it stands.

    But yes it would be nice.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    In for the indignant replies
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    Its all good I came prepared...
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  • KatLifter
    KatLifter Posts: 1,314 Member
    In for the indignant replies
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    Its all good I came prepared...
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    You're awesome. And this is a solid, and respectful, reminder for people on the forums.
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    Bump
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    I was expecting more backlash hehe. The message is great and deserves to be spread.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    bump
  • 42hockeymom
    42hockeymom Posts: 521 Member
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    You're just too damn cool!
  • MoJoPoe
    MoJoPoe Posts: 139 Member
    Anyone on this site can search the internet. Folks are asking for personal experiences. When we can provide links- great. When we can provide caring, even better. Many are looking for hope and encouragement, not science.
  • ecdce
    ecdce Posts: 129 Member
    New people can always use the Search feature before posting the same topics over and over as well.. ya know.. like the opposite.

    This.
    I've only been around a very short time I can definitely see why people start responding with "eat more," "get a food scale," and "track your calories". The questions are so repetitive. Not just to very old threads, but the same questions being asked multiple times a day. Maybe you could just start pointing people to the stickied threads, but they need to be cleaned up. I doubt they're getting read because you have to wade through 50 posts of "bump" to get to the actual topic.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    Anyone on this site can search the internet. Folks are asking for personal experiences. When we can provide links- great. When we can provide caring, even better. Many are looking for hope and encouragement, not science.
    Hope and encouragement, cool. But when it comes to things like BMR/TDEE and proper exercise technique or nutrition I think I prefer to go with science as opposed to an encouraging ill-informed vague answer. Think you may have missed the point of my post.
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
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    hahaha :laugh:
  • Candi_land
    Candi_land Posts: 1,311 Member
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  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    Okay okay - after being told I'm a meanie I gave your links! :flowerforyou:
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    LOL
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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