Eating Clean - No Such Thing

Celiacs is about wheat, not carbs.

Celiac is about more than just wheat I'm afraid. My younger sibling has the disease and has to avoid barley, oats along with a few other foods that contain gluten. (Thank goodness for corn and rice products!)

yes yes. I meant gluten, not wheat.
Good catch!

Still not about carbs!

"Violet, you're turning violet!!" Wait, what??

when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?

Celiacs is about wheat, not carbs.

Celiac is about more than just wheat I'm afraid. My younger sibling has the disease and has to avoid barley, oats along with a few other foods that contain gluten. (Thank goodness for corn and rice products!)

Technically Celiacs is about gluten, which is a protein.

OP has it right, every word. All the butt hurt are just in denial.

OP has it right, every word. All the butt hurt are just in denial.

Edit: I'm a moron and was in the wrong thread :laugh:

when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?

Vegan doesn't necessarily = clean

beat me to it!

OP has it right, every word. All the butt hurt are just in denial.

Edit: I'm a moron and was in the wrong thread :laugh:

reputation: UPHELD!

OP has it right, every word. All the butt hurt are just in denial.

Of course she has it right. But not in the title.

She had it right when she said "exercise" and "actually logging my food accurately."

*ahem* She?

Damn you ninjas getting in before my edit!

when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?

I know one.

I know several.

I'd like to clear this up once and for all. Lately, the forums have been plagued with people claiming that they are "eating clean" and it's getting quite annoying.

There is no such thing as “clean" food.

There is no such thing as “dirty" food.

You can eat processed foods. You can eat chocolate, poptarts, hotdogs, drink soda. Go ahead and even have a nice big juicey burger from McDonalds if you wish!

The key is to fit it in to your macronutrients. Make food work for you instead of cowering in fear like the mass majority. You can still enjoy the foods you love. Yes it’s in moderation. You can still even lose fat, eat at a caloric deficit, gain muscle mass and eat poptarts. I promise.

I wish everyone would stop the fear mongering with carbs, processed foods and paleo bullcrap.

FOODS LIKE THESE DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT. OVER EATING THEM DOES.

Thank you.

I forsee this piece being the definitive work on the subject. CoachReddy will return and a 100 year treaty will be signed where only mutual agreement will reign. MFP will create a forum Nobel Peace Prize and OP will win it. Hear ye Hear ye

I see we've never met. I was an overweight teen eating home cooked more or less clean foods. My mom made all of her good from scratch, starting with the most basic of ingredients.

And then I ate it all. And then I was 15 and 200+ pounds and had no idea how I got there, because I wasn't even really allowed to eat processed stuff, which is what I'd always heard made people get fat. Surly I didn't get fat eating carrot sticks and homemade chicken stew! ...except that is exactly what happened.

And then I started eating less, my mom loosened up and let me become a brownie a day eater, and I lost all kinds of weight. Then I got married and started eating like a man and put a bit back on, and now I'm losing again (While still being a brownie and ice cream everyday eater.)

^^I think I love you a little bit, especially about the "eating like a man" -- I have that problem, living with my marathoner husband. =P

I suggest researching the chemical effects on the body when consuming refined sugars and high fructose corn syrup. One certainly can have a pop tart now and again but I challenge people to study how sugar is processed in the body. Not slow burning natural sugars such as those found in fruit but rather the processed sugar in things such as pop tarts. The problem is that these foods have an addictive effect which makes you feel like you want more...and more...

Indeed there should be balance but I think if you want to be stronger and faster naturally then one should feed the machine, your body, proper fuel. Your body will thank you for it when you are older. Food should be viewed as fuel. Proper nutrition for healthy happy body.

It's not the sugar that has an addictive affect, it's eating simple sugars by themselves outside the context of a meal. Any simple sugars eaten without protein or fiber will cause an increase in blood glucose and a correlating increase in insulin. When this insulin spike inevitably turns into what is known as a "sugar crash" your body craves more sugar. "Natural Sugars" in fruit and vegetables are consumed with fiber which prevents this. None of this has an affect on your body composition in the slightest if you stick to your macros and your calories. Of course if you just have a candy bar outside of a meal it will cause a sugar crash and you will crave more, but the same thing goes for drinking fruit juice, which contains "natural sugars". It's not whether the sugar is refined or natural, it is the context of the meal. Also, when the sugar crash comes around, just expect it and have a little will power, or eat sugar within the context of a meal, it's not that hard.

It is all personal preference.


Carry on.

What exactly is clean?
Grinding the wheat berries yourself? Nothing with additives? No sugar? No cheese?

Curious. I keep hearing this and I hear different things.

What are some "cleaner" choices for those a strict food budget?

This is one of the main problems with "clean eating" in my opinion. There's no clear definition of it. Most "clean eaters" I know will eat whole-grain bread, dairy, and protein shakes. Even though those things are very nutritious, they're definitely processed. So where is the line drawn? Why are those processed foods okay but other processed foods are the devil?

Then you'll have people who say that even those foods AREN'T okay, that anything truly "clean" can't be processed AT ALL. But then what about cooking your food? That's changing it's chemical structure. If you cook your food, it is becoming processed.

Don't get me wrong - I ate "clean" for a while and still do the majority of the time. To me, it means eating foods as close to their natural state as possible, with nutrition being a big factor - dairy might be processed, but it's a great source of protein as an alternative to meat. But if I want to get a big mac on the way home, the notion that I need to "eat clean" certainly isn't going to stop me from doing so!