Refined foods, flours and sugars
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Have any of you cut out foods made from white flour and refined sugars from your daily diets altogether? If so, has it helped you lose a lot of weight or helped you maintain your goal weight?
I think my biggest problem in the past is that I have eaten a LOT of white bread every day, plus I liked the cakes ; - (. And, normally it is not just the bread, most of the stuff that goes into the sandwiches has been unhealthy or processed foods like mayo, butter, processed meats, cheeses, etc.
I have already cut right down on the bread and cakes items but only for 3 months, was wondering if anyone has cut them out for much longer, and have had good results by not eating them.
I think your biggest problem in the past was that you were eating at a caloric surplus...because that is what causes weight gain.
Eating at a deficit will result in weight loss.
I don't cut out any foods except for the ones I do not like.
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find a primal/paleo forum and ask there, you'll get thoughtful responses
Quoting for reference when clean eaters/paleo peeps complain about people being negative towards them, claim that no clean eater here has acted like an elitist or insulted others for not eating like them.
Carry on.
I actually thought she was being sarcastic, especially since she has a beer in her picture. I guess that says a lot about me!
Doesn't matter what she has in her hand while she's insulting people.
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.0 -
I cut out refined graines,cooked foods and foods that need cooking, dairy for a couple of months say 90% of time totally! This got me used to not eating them, then I returned a small amount of these foods back into my diet, say 80% raw vegan. This suited me because of portion control problems and balanced nutritional diet! As for weight, the high fibre of vastly increased fruit and veg consumption made it very easy to keep to a deficit, snacking on unsalted nuts and seeds, dates and figs kept calories higher than many of my friends on here 1500 to over 2000 gross! Always into fitness I along side increased workouts ( I've worked out all my life fat or thin )I resumed running and increased weight lifting in the gym.
My experience this year was drastic weight loss, mainly fat from estimates of over 40% down to 21% .
The weight loss from water, undigested foods, lack of bloating, were psychologically inspiring . weight loss is about 2 stone and and visible fat loss.0 -
I cut out Rice, pasta, bread.. Like 2 weeks back after a stall on my weigh loss and increased my veggies n fruits, am losing again..hv lost almost 4lbs in 2 weeks. i was constipated too, but now prbm solved. BUT, I do eat a fist portion of rice/pasta or bread on Sundays as a treat 0
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find a primal/paleo forum and ask there, you'll get thoughtful responses
Rude.
And you'll get biased responses, actually.
Just because you don't agree with someone else doesn't mean their response wasn't "thoughtful" or that they're wrong.
To be fair, this is a weight loss forum more than a health forum.
Says who, exactly? My FITNESS Pal.
Says me. If you want to try to derive health information from these forums, that's perfectly fine. But the signal to noise ratio on anything other than simple weight loss is extreme.
Given the inability to have a reasonable discussion regarding the differences between clean eating and IIFYM without it reverting to "you're going to get cancer," "fine, eat cheeseburgers," "I wash my food with Windex," etc. I would agree. That said, attempting to define "health" outside of objective health markers seems to me to be quixotic at best.
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:noway: Wow ..any who......I personally because of being diabetic and have high cholesterol have so far eliminated junk food like cakes and cookies ect.... If I do have a sandwich I rather go with wheat bread ,I do skim or almond milk. Best wishes! :happy:0
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I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.0 -
Have any of you cut out foods made from white flour and refined sugars from your daily diets altogether? If so, has it helped you lose a lot of weight or helped you maintain your goal weight?
I think my biggest problem in the past is that I have eaten a LOT of white bread every day, plus I liked the cakes ; - (. And, normally it is not just the bread, most of the stuff that goes into the sandwiches has been unhealthy or processed foods like mayo, butter, processed meats, cheeses, etc.
I have already cut right down on the bread and cakes items but only for 3 months, was wondering if anyone has cut them out for much longer, and have had good results by not eating them.
Why do you think it is those foods in particular? Sounds just like a caloric surplus to me.0 -
i've cut out most refined carbs, my breadbaby is due to my addiction to pasta and bread (doesn't matter if it's whole wheat, no wheat my body just sticks it straight on my belly). i've also cut down on rice and tatties.
I eat more carbs from fruit and veg now and it's made a massive difference! when i do eat refined carbs it's almost instantaneous breadbaby growth, it's ridiculous. Even when i eat a low amount of refined carbs and keep my calories at the right amount for me etc it makes no difference my body just sticks it straight on my stomach.
I've found loads of alternatives to things so i can have bready/pasta like foods so i don't 'miss out', cloud/oopsie bread (you have to make it so it reduces how much of it you eat), courgette instead of lasagna, miracle/zero noodles, cauliflower instead of rice or tatties, celeriac chips or mash, swede mash (far FAR tastier than tattie mash or chips)
i rarely eat processed meat.
I love dairy but have a slight intolerance to it, butter is far better for you than marg. But i use coconut oil for most cooking and butter for baking. i'm a cheese addict so i have slices of edam at work to snack on.
my favourite 'sweet' is dried mango or dates, and celery/carrots/apple with pb (the sort that only has peanuts in).
just do abit of googling for low carb stuff and you'd be amazed how many normal everyday foods you eat can be made healthier with a bit of substitution of the 'bad' stuff your body doesn't like.0 -
I do believe it is only by eating less calories than our body needs that we can lose weight. But for me personally eating less sugars and starches has helped me to not feel as hungry so that I can eat less calories. I still allow myself to eat refined foods and flours and sugars but in moderation.0
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Cutting out refined foods, white flours and processed sugars has worked for me when nothing else has.
I know there are lots of different ways to lose weight and some people can eat a cookie here and there and still lose weight. But I am not one of those people.
I've tried a lot of different methods of weight loss over the years and if I did manage to lose a pound or two, five more came back. That's one of the reasons I got to be as big as I am.
Eating clean - whole foods as much as possible - works for me.
For me this is a lifestyle change. I have no desire to go back to eating refined sugars or processed foods ever again. I don't miss them at all.0 -
Have any of you cut out foods made from white flour and refined sugars from your daily diets altogether? If so, has it helped you lose a lot of weight or helped you maintain your goal weight?
I think my biggest problem in the past is that I have eaten a LOT of white bread every day, plus I liked the cakes ; - (. And, normally it is not just the bread, most of the stuff that goes into the sandwiches has been unhealthy or processed foods like mayo, butter, processed meats, cheeses, etc.
I have already cut right down on the bread and cakes items but only for 3 months, was wondering if anyone has cut them out for much longer, and have had good results by not eating them.
Why do you think it is those foods in particular? Sounds just like a caloric surplus to me.
I am sure surplus calories is the main problem for me, however I am not sure my surplus calories alone was enough to keep me at 320 lbs.
When I see what some people eat NOW, I think WOW, I never used to eat that much stuff before. I rarely ate fast foods (1-2 per week), rarely drank sodas, rarely ate candy, rarely drank alcohol. BUT my biggest problem was that I ate a lot of white bread, I used to eat 2-3 x 10 inch white baguettes per day and a big bag potato chips. I also was a big coffee drinker too (6-8 cups per day). My diet consisted mainly of sandwiches, potato chips and coffee.
Since I have changed my diet, 11 weeks now, I have dropped 9 lbs. Anyone is welcome to check my food diary to give me some tips and advice. My diary only has records for the last week when I started MFP but it has been very similar for 11 weeks.
Am I losing weight at the right rate? I must admit, I thought I would of lost 2 lbs per week, but I am only losing less than a pound a week which seems slow when I started at 320 lbs.0 -
I have just done a rough calculation of how many calories I used to eat in the past, and I was definitely eating too much as I estimate it must of been around 3,000 calories per day.
Compared to what I am eating now, I think I have dropped my calories too much? Would appreciate to know what you guys think. My diary is open to view. I have lost 9 lbs in 11 weeks which seems a bit slow?0 -
I have just done a rough calculation of how many calories I used to eat in the past, and I was definitely eating too much as I estimate it must of been around 3,000 calories per day.
Compared to what I am eating now, I think I have dropped my calories too much? Would appreciate to know what you guys think. My diary is open to view. I have lost 9 lbs in 11 weeks which seems a bit slow?
Did you get the 2,490 calorie number by using the guided fitness goal tool? If so, were you accurate about your lifestyle and exercise? If not it's going to be off.
Also, in my opinion you were not on the road to weight loss until you started logging your food intake. The 9 lbs lost was incidental. Keep weighing your food, logging it, stay in a deficit and you will lose weight.0 -
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.
You have never made beer.0 -
Years and years ago I read Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy: The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating.
http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Drink-Be-Healthy-Harvard/dp/0743266420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374056647&sr=8-1&keywords=harvard+healthy+eating
As a result I did replace white wheat with whole wheat and white rice with brown. I also try (though only about 90% of the time) to follow their nutrition recommendations like their healthy eating plate instead of the traditional food pyramid.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/plate/healthy-eating-plate
This, however, was not about weight-loss for me, but rather general energy and well-being.
Obviously, I was still eating too many calories, or I wouldn't be here. Now I am combining exercise, the Harvard tips, and MFP calorie counter with great success. I am also recently trying to hit my macros (100g of protein) and that is helping a TON.
I think that you are doing a great job of losing 9lbs and making changes that you can live with. If you are so inclined, slowly substituting some refined carbs for whole grains cannot hurt, but only if you are counting the calories.0 -
Since I am doing a keto diet, yes. Lost about 60 pounds since Februari(ish). Though I deviated some (went to Japan for 3 weeks). Before this I've tried lots of different things, I just feel like eating keto satisfy me and it seems to work well.
I've barely lost any lean body mass since I started, but lost about 5% total body fat since the start of July. I eat at quite a high deficit the days where I don't work out, but eat more the days I do.0 -
I have just done a rough calculation of how many calories I used to eat in the past, and I was definitely eating too much as I estimate it must of been around 3,000 calories per day.
Compared to what I am eating now, I think I have dropped my calories too much? Would appreciate to know what you guys think. My diary is open to view. I have lost 9 lbs in 11 weeks which seems a bit slow?
Did you get the 2,490 calorie number by using the guided fitness goal tool? If so, were you accurate about your lifestyle and exercise? If not it's going to be off.
Also, in my opinion you were not on the road to weight loss until you started logging your food intake. The 9 lbs lost was incidental. Keep weighing your food, logging it, stay in a deficit and you will lose weight.
Yes, I got 2,490 calories from the calculator.
However, I am generally eating around 2,000 calories daily now, and I am concerned I have dropped too many calories to quickly? I am finding it pretty easy to drop to 2,000 calories and I am confident I can stick with it.
I think for me, I was eating the wrong type of foods in the past, especially large amounts of bread (sandwiches), purely because it was easy and quick. I have more or less cut out flour based items now and other processed foods. I am still eating plenty food though (at least for me).0 -
I think eating fast food twice a week is a lot - I won't say i never eat fast food, but we might as a family have take-out pixzza once in 8 weeks and Burger King maybe once in 4 months (unless we are on vacation with limited time/possibilities - but that's only 2 weeks). With regard to the baguettes, it was the calories in them (and probably in the fillings) that weere your main problem.
I used to regularly -every weekend - have a white baguette with loads of cheese. The baguette alone has the caloires of 6 slices of bread, and there's no way I would have eaten 3 sandwiches even then.
I have not cut anything OUT of my diet. But I've not had a baguette - I've subbed in high-quality slced bread (Vogel) - and I try to avoid the "its my birthday, there's cake in the kitchen" unless I know I can fit it inot my calories for the day - to avoid temptation I log my daily food at the start of the day so if I want something extra I know how much extra exercise I need to do to accomodate it.
A healthy balanced diet using all the food groups but keeping to your calorie limit will make you lose weight - as others have said, its about protion control. If you want a baguette, make sure you log it accurately and if it takes you over your calories do some extra exercise to make it up.0 -
I did cut it out when I first started. Moderation was something that was really difficult for me straight out of the gate but after a month of my self imposed rehab I was able to control my self and my cravings. I still don't have flour because the gluten causes digestive troubles for me but I do have ice cream and (what I consider more nutritious) fast food. I keep my carbs at 113g/day and sometimes I'm under, sometimes I'm over but I aim to get them from decently nutritious sources like fruits and veg but I also really like ice cream and nachos. I would say I began eating a more primal diet, but based on my personal experience IIFYM will see me to goal.0
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I think eating fast food twice a week is a lot - I won't say i never eat fast food, but we might as a family have take-out pixzza once in 8 weeks and Burger King maybe once in 4 months (unless we are on vacation with limited time/possibilities - but that's only 2 weeks). With regard to the baguettes, it was the calories in them (and probably in the fillings) that weere your main problem.
I used to regularly -every weekend - have a white baguette with loads of cheese. The baguette alone has the caloires of 6 slices of bread, and there's no way I would have eaten 3 sandwiches even then.
I have not cut anything OUT of my diet. But I've not had a baguette - I've subbed in high-quality slced bread (Vogel) - and I try to avoid the "its my birthday, there's cake in the kitchen" unless I know I can fit it inot my calories for the day - to avoid temptation I log my daily food at the start of the day so if I want something extra I know how much extra exercise I need to do to accomodate it.
A healthy balanced diet using all the food groups but keeping to your calorie limit will make you lose weight - as others have said, its about protion control. If you want a baguette, make sure you log it accurately and if it takes you over your calories do some extra exercise to make it up.
Yes, I really think the amount of bread and the fillings was the biggest problem. I don't think 1-2 pizzas per week was a huge problem as their were shared with the kids and only thin based with little topping. I am pretty sure my downfall was bread and sugar to a lesser degree. Since I have nearly totally cut out the bread, I actually feel as though I have more energy ; - )
Now I have craving for broccoli and carrots ; - ), time to eat.0 -
Although I LOVE it, I eat less bread than I used to because it's a lot of calories for not much sustinence.0
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If it works for you great, but as previously mentioned for weight loss a calorie deficit is key.
Develop moderation, denying ones self will usually result in a relapse or binging.
Healthy food is always a good thing but what is considered healthy is always up for debate.
Think sustainable.
Here are some links that are helpful for organizing your calorie intake.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
Also consider if you haven't introducing exercise into your life...a combination of weight training and cardio.
Good luck.0 -
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.
It isn't about the processing in this case. Beer is made from grains, and grains are a no-no on paleo.0 -
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.
You have never made beer.
Actually, I have. I do, in fact. And, I make wine as well. Albeit, I make more wine than beer.
Sure, you can make it really complicated, by creating a wash through boiling, and adding your hops at various stages and all; but in reality, you don't need to make it that complicated. You can drop your seeds (The grains) in the water, then drop more seeds in there (The hops), then drop your yeast in, and seal it (To carbonate). Wont be the best tasting beer, but it's beer, nonetheless.
Same with wine. People make it sounds really complicated to make, with extreme sanitation, benzonite, potassium sorbate, certain strains of yeast, specified times, go through several rackings, and then bottle aging, but in reality none of that is really "required" per se.
People many thousands of years ago were making both beer and wine. I don't think we can consider ancient Egyptians to have been consuming "processed foods".0 -
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.
It isn't about the processing in this case. Beer is made from grains, and grains are a no-no on paleo.
Which makes is really funny. Paleolithic man survived on many types of grains, which are nothing more than grass seeds.
The whole "paleo diet" seems funny to me, since nobody today can possibly eat like a paleolithic man, since there are very few (If any) of the paleolithic plant species around today, Not to mention, we've undergone several evolutionary steps since then. I think our appendix became vestigial in that time. And, paleolithic man ate lots of meat. Raw, of course, eaten right off the carcass.
And, this is also assuming the diet of paleolithic man was actually better than ours today. Most specimens of that era showed arteriosclerosis (Hardening the arteries due to poor diet) by "old age" (30 years or so).0 -
I cut out alot of processed foods with the exception of a few.
I cut out most gluten because I found that I am sensitive to it so I don't eat much of it. I think eating too much wheat and processed corn is a huggge problem in America.
I hardly ever eat any mixes. Not only because they are made of crappy ingredients but they taste like it too. haha
What I do like:
Grillmates dried marinades packets - because its simply spices and then you add your own olive oil, vinegar and water.
I am okay with GF or regular flour, sugar, cornstarch, cornmeal, breadcrumbs, salt- basically pantry ingredients that is too time consuming to prep yourself but it still in raw form. With a little extra time and effort you can make all the " processed boxed foods" recipes but from scratch.
I used to be okay with pasta, I am okay with GF pasta. Rice is fine being slightly processed
Fruits veggies and other raw produce
Coffee, naturally brewed tea with simple syrup (we make too)
Some*** canned veggies that don't have sugar or salt added.. I don't like canned corn, green beans or anything like that. Its mostly beans, tomatoes, sauce, and stuff to make other recipes.
A lot of ice creams, fruit pops, chocolate are put together with just a couple ingredients.
The hubby and I are foodies so we make and smoke our own sausages, smoke our own meat and he does the mico brew thing and makes mead, beer, hard cider and is thinking about doing wine because fruit is in season. We have happy friends come Christmas when we pass them out as gifts.
We are thinking about making and smoking our own cheese.
My point. There are ways around it, you just need to want it enough. 0 -
I meant because beer's not allowed on paleo (I don't think?)...in any case, it doesn't matter.
Which is funny, since beer is about as unprocessed as it gets. Throw seeds into water, let yeast fall in, wait 8 weeks.
It isn't about the processing in this case. Beer is made from grains, and grains are a no-no on paleo.
Which makes is really funny. Paleolithic man survived on many types of grains, which are nothing more than grass seeds.
The whole "paleo diet" seems funny to me, since nobody today can possibly eat like a paleolithic man, since there are very few (If any) of the paleolithic plant species around today, Not to mention, we've undergone several evolutionary steps since then. I think our appendix became vestigial in that time. And, paleolithic man ate lots of meat. Raw, of course, eaten right off the carcass.
And, this is also assuming the diet of paleolithic man was actually better than ours today. Most specimens of that era showed arteriosclerosis (Hardening the arteries due to poor diet) by "old age" (30 years or so).
Funny is an understatement, imo. I have several friends who claim to be on it, but many of them are now calling themselves "primal" because they can't stick to the actual "paleo diet."
I find it hilarious that any modern person would look to the paleolithic era as some sort of nirvana of healthy diets. :laugh:0 -
I've caught out everything processed and refined, which has helped tremendously with my weight loss and the way I feel. I slip up here and there and it amazes me how bad that junk makes you feel after you eat well for a period of time. Look up Whole30 online or get this book: It Starts With Food. I guarantee it will change your life.0
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I avoid foods like flour and sugar most days, but still allow myself the odd bit of bread, birthday cake, chocolate when i really fancy it. Going from eating bread/pasta 3 times a day to maybe only 3 times a week has made a massive difference becuase
a) im subsitituing pasta/bread for more vegetable and pulses which are lower calorie
b) i dont get the bloat assosiated with over indulging in gluten
Works for me, but every body is different!!0
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