Unsupportive partners?

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  • JaxDemon
    JaxDemon Posts: 403 Member
    I actually just can't get over the amount of people that seem to think just leaving the guy is the best way forward in this.

    When this couple got together, this obviously wasn't an issue. One person in the relationship has now decided to make some drastic changes to their lifestyle, and because the other hasn't immediately followed suit, they are 'drifting apart'.

    OP, don't even bother talking to him or resolving it like adults. Who does that now? Just break up.

    For me I think the issue is 'They could drift apart' She has different goals in life to him now, It was clear they both have just enjoyed eating whatever whenever and now that's changed for her. It don't mean it needs to change for him but I could see her losing all this weight, being bored with her unsupportive partner and then off looking for something else that she's not getting at home.

    I defo agree she needs to talk to him. If her partner is lacking in energy levels then I highly recommend the DP keto Diet. After 4-7 days ya bouncing off the walls with energy lol
  • He has as much right to live his life the way he sees fit just like you have the right to live yours.

    Hmmm.....within reason.

    It's a partnership, things have to be agreed and negotiated to make it work long term, untimately you both have to make sacrifices to make it work, it's complex.

    It was at the point where I didn't want to make changes or make any sacrifices for my ex, I didn't want his needs to be equal to mine, because mine ultimately felt way more important that I knew it should end.

    I agree that it is a partnership, but people should not have to change to be in a relationship. My husband and I support each other in our differences, no one has to compromise who they are. I think my husband and I have it under control. We know how to make it work long term.

    But again I can totally see why the divorce is so high.
  • trinitylyons01
    trinitylyons01 Posts: 126 Member
    My mom had this modification of the serenity prayer posted on her fridge.

    God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it’s me.

    You're in a relationship, not a new being that's half you and half him.

    This!

    I think what quite a few people are forgetting is everyone makes decisions about their health at their own pace. Maybe your bf is not ready now but that doesn't mean he may not be ready down the line. Getting rid of him doesn't have to be a first resort! (Goodness gracious people!) :-) It also does not mean that you will forever be in this fitness journey alone. He may very well have an "AHA" moment and realize he needs to be healthier. Remember there was a time when you weren't ready to live a healthy lifestyle either. Something clicked for you and you decided to change. Is it really fair of you to be upset because he didn't get ready for that change when you did? That was your decision for you. You cannot expect him to change simply because you have. He has to want it for himself and maybe one day he will.

    You need to remember the only person you can - and should try to - change is yourself. As difficult as it may be to make healthy choices when you're around him it is still up to you to make those choices. There are always things and people around who will sabotage your efforts. When we give in we give them power over us. My husband and I are both trying to lose weight but we never seem to be in sync. Sometimes he's all in and other times I'm all in. Because of this I struggle. He tends to eat very late at night. I do not metabolize food well after 7 pm so I try to finish eating before then. But then I smell his Chinese food or the other delicious items he has brought home. I have found that I need a plan for ME so I don't give in. It's not realistic for me to ask him not to eat late just to benefit me. He works in corporate America and sometimes doesn't get home until 7. Also, it's his life. We are two different people and we have to respect that. When I see that he's off his plan I do, however, continue to ask him to workout with me or ask him can I fix him a nice healthy parfait for breakfast or something healthy for dinner. If he says no I respect that and move on. Yes I want him to be healthy. Yes I worry about all the weight related health issues that are out there but I cannot FORCE him to change. One day we will both do what we need to do on a daily basis because we need and WANT to do it. Until that time I respect his choice just like he respected mine when I was acting like a lazy piglet.

    I would NEVER consider leaving my husband due to these differences. Better or worse, remember? :-) I have also seen people here say that he is "only" your BF and not your husband and you need to decide whether he can be a part of the new life you want. To that I just want to say he is YOUR boyfriend. YOURS! I respect everyone's right to decide what they need in their lives so I respect your right to make the same decision. Please do not let anyone encourage you to leave a man who gives you what you need in all areas except this one - even though it is a major one. You can find ways to work around the things he does. Immediately throw away stuff you know you can't handle having in the house. And I mean in the outside trash can. When he's eating junk find another area of your home to hang out in until he's done or find something else to do. It may sound like a lot of effort but if this is the man you love and you want to be with him you need to understand that you may have to make these types of decisions and take these types of actions to stay on your journey. You are the only one who can decide how much you love him and how much (and how long) you can take his actions. Breaking up and staying can be difficult choices and each have benefits and drawbacks.

    To be honest, I do think he is purposely sabotaging you. It's one thing for HIM to choose not to eat healthy and not to exercise. But if you have asked him NOT to bring YOU certain items and he constantly does he may subconsciously be doing it on purpose. That is a conversation you really need to have. He's obviously afraid of something - losing you, maybe? You need to constantly reiterate that you do NOT want him to bring you foods that are not on your plan. Give him a list if you need to. Then if he keeps doing it you have a problem. You will need to find a way to fix it - whatever that may be.

    Anyway, back to your question. You need to have some "emergency" options in your freezer that work with your plan. I know unprocessed foods are best BUT it would be better to have a lean cuisine meal or some frozen soup that you can grab in a bind than to starve all day, eat high calorie junk food or have to spend an arm and a leg just to eat. You need to take notice of what happens that throws you off of your schedule/plan and have backup plans to work with. When BF is eating junk have some yogurt. Save calories for later in the day if you know you will need to have a snack to distract you from what he is eating. Keep an EXTRA $5 in your purse in a hidden compartment to make it easier to get a healthy meal. Make a plan that revolves around the problems you are facing. But plan for the issues you seem to face regularly. If he keeps you from going to the gym because he has the car find videos for the house. There are many you can even do from the computer. I find the Brazil Butt lift cardio Axe video on You Tube!

    Finally, after having a serious talk with him about your goals and how you would like him to help you (not to change himself) make your plan and stick to it. Maybe you can end up doing so well that you motivate him to want it for himself. But, even if you don't being healthier will be a prize in and of itself.

    Sorry this was so long. Hope it helps!
  • lknjohnson
    lknjohnson Posts: 351 Member
    bump. Like the responses. I'm kind of having the same issue.
  • Run4Me2Day
    Run4Me2Day Posts: 344 Member
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  • Run4Me2Day
    Run4Me2Day Posts: 344 Member
    I am struggling right now so badly. I have lost 22 lbs since April 2012. I was really determined to change my life that pretty much evolved around food. I love cooking and love food, so does my bf of 7 years... He is overweight but not too much. The main problem is he does not care for healthy food or exercising AT ALL. If I make something healthy (which I constantly do) he will eat it BUT if he ever cooks than it is always something unhealthy,fatty,bacon filled....
    He refuses to go to a gym or do any kind of exercises saying that is he too tired after work, will never go work out, does not have time etc etc...

    I have been doing really good on my weight loss until recently, but it is so hard to keep going when I feel like I am the only one who cares or tries ( I would work a 10 hours shift and then still drag my *kitten* to a gym class at 8.30 pm) This morning just put me over the edge, my bf drives our car to work and back, he did not get home in time for me to go grocery shopping so this morning we had nothing to pack for lunch.... He just said: oh go buy something (while making sure I fir into my $5 a day eating out budget)....he did not care that I can not possible buy anything healthy for that much, which means I am going to starve myself all day until I can get to a grocery store after work and go home to cook some food.

    Any ideas on how to cope with partners who do not care/do not want to do anything about a lifestyle change? (Leaving him is not an option:)) as he is an absolutely wonderful person in all other aspects of life).

    I fully understand where you are coming from. My fiance eats by himself usually before I get home and then sometimes one or two more times through the night. I try to buy healthier food when I go to the store and he picks up the sweets. I did get him to go for a walk with me one night, and I think he regreted it. I just do my thing and try not to let it bother me that he doesn't want to workout with me. I try to make better choices for myself and if he follows great. I love him either way.
  • Deekay8008
    Deekay8008 Posts: 44 Member

    I agree that it is a partnership, but people should not have to change to be in a relationship. My husband and I support each other in our differences, no one has to compromise who they are. I think my husband and I have it under control. We know how to make it work long term.

    But again I can totally see why the divorce is so high.

    You see I don't want to argue with you, as I truly do agree with the premise of what you're saying, people shouldn't have to compromise themselves to be in a relationship, their core belief and values especially. However, saying -

    "People should not have to change to be in a relationship"

    Is just a fallacy, you both have to change in many ways and that change is a continuous process as a relationship deepens and evolves year on year and each of your priorities, aspirations and motivations change, sometimes together and sometimes differently and if it doesn't happen in a complimentary way to each other it can have major consequences. I'll leave it there.
  • dvelocity
    dvelocity Posts: 309 Member
    My husband would tell you that he is supportive and I would tell you that he is not. We work together at the same company same hours. We ride together and go to lunch together and eat dinner together. When we go home his idea is to watch TV or go hang out with friends at the bar.

    Meals we don't really have a problem with I eat what he eats but I eat smaller portions and supplement my meal with adding more veggies. Going out to eat. I really have no problem going out to eat as well as I make smart decisions. Sometime if I am stressed out or feeling lousy I request not to go out to eat because I know that the decision making part of my brain is not working properly. Sometimes I don't.

    Afterwork - hey if you want to watch tv fine but watch that show I don't like because I need to get my workout in. Night to hang out with friends, fine If he wants to have all that beer it does not mean that I have to.

    So sometimes I will tell you that he is unsupportive because I want to say that the reason all the temptation is around me is because of him. That is just an exscuse, I want to transpose the blame on him. But I know deep inside that all the choices lie with me. I have to choose what to eat when to eat when to exercise and when not to.

    If he was not in my life I am sure that I would blame my stressful job, or the way my mom raised me, or the prices at the store for reasons why I have a hard time losing weight. Honestly, I am my worst enemy.

    My husband would never come home and say I brought pizza and you eat that or you starve. He would never say no you can not work out you must sit and watch tv with me. He lets me make my own choices. If I choose to sit and watch tv or I choose to eat that pizza he supports my decision. He might even question my decision. He is not pointing out my failure to do the right thing. He is supporting me by giving me an opportunity to do something different about it.

    I write this because yes, I want to say all the time, probably every day that my husband is unspportive. But when I really think about it I know that it is not true.

  • I agree that it is a partnership, but people should not have to change to be in a relationship. My husband and I support each other in our differences, no one has to compromise who they are. I think my husband and I have it under control. We know how to make it work long term.

    But again I can totally see why the divorce is so high.

    You see I don't want to argue with you, as I truly do agree with the premise of what you're saying, people shouldn't have to compromise themselves to be in a relationship, their core belief and values especially. However, saying -

    "People should not have to change to be in a relationship"

    Is just a fallacy, you both have to change in many ways and that change is a continuous process as a relationship deepens and evolves year on year and each of your priorities, aspirations and motivations change, sometimes together and sometimes differently and if it doesn't happen in a complimentary way to each other it can have major consequences. I'll leave it there.

    My husband and I must just operate differently than other married couples. Oh well, maybe that is why we are still married and more importantly happy.
  • Deekay8008
    Deekay8008 Posts: 44 Member
    Urrgh, I told myself I wouldn't repond to this but here I am.

    I'm not saying you operate differently, (I can't actually believe that is what/all you took from my post, is life to you really that black and white?!)

    I was saying that you were making a rather sweeping statement earlier when you stated with 100% convinction that people shouldn't need to change for each other in a marriage which looking at your response I feel was perhaps because you didn't give the idea of change, even if in small increments, enough thought. Compromise for instance is a form of change, is it not? Ach, forget it, what's the point.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    I think, op, you're being completely unreasonable.
    Don't like what he cooks? Make your own.
    Why should he go to the gym?
  • Urrgh, I told myself I wouldn't repond to this but here I am.

    I'm not saying you operate differently, (I can't actually believe that is what/all you took from my post, is life to you really that black and white?!)

    I was saying that you were making a rather sweeping statement earlier when you stated with 100% convinction that people shouldn't need to change for each other in a marriage which looking at your response I feel was perhaps because you didn't give the idea of change, even if in small increments, enough thought. Compromise for instance is a form of change, is it not? Ach, forget it, what's the point.

    You can believe what ever you like. I am happily married to an amazing man (celebrating 9 years together). By all means believe what you want. You said you have an ex and I assume that your relationship failed for whatever reason, so I think my husband and I will keep believing in our own philosophy.

    After reading this thread I really feel bad for some of your husbands.
  • Tiffa0909
    Tiffa0909 Posts: 191 Member
    This is not directed to the op but in general I think sometimes people us the "'someone is sabotaging me'' as an excuse for not having the will power .

    When i first started my journey no one in my family was eating healthy and as a matter of fact I was forced to go and buy them fast foods and junk. I use to say that they were not supportive and were sabotaging me , but the reality is that it was me all along.

    Just because I can't eat something doesn't mean that everyone has to stop eating it , just because I can't sit and watch TV doesn't mean that everyone has to stop.

    He is not going to burn the calories for you or step on the scale with you.
  • Deekay8008
    Deekay8008 Posts: 44 Member
    Urrgh, I told myself I wouldn't repond to this but here I am.

    I'm not saying you operate differently, (I can't actually believe that is what/all you took from my post, is life to you really that black and white?!)

    I was saying that you were making a rather sweeping statement earlier when you stated with 100% convinction that people shouldn't need to change for each other in a marriage which looking at your response I feel was perhaps because you didn't give the idea of change, even if in small increments, enough thought. Compromise for instance is a form of change, is it not? Ach, forget it, what's the point.

    You can believe what ever you like. I am happily married to an amazing man (celebrating 9 years together). By all means believe what you want. You said you have an ex and I assume that your relationship failed for whatever reason, so I think my husband and I will keep believing in our own philosophy.

    After reading this thread I really feel bad for some of your husbands.

    Hmmm...I did mention my ex in support of another writer, you remember her, right? The one who was going through a difficult time in her own life and you decided to bascially verbally bash and make a rather crass comment about the divorce rate. Yeah, that's actually why this whole conversation started, or did you forget?

    I am married btw (for 4 years) However, I often feel that people who think the years they are married stand as some kind of "success" in life indicator are rather unfortunately mistaken.

    And as for feeling sorry for some of our husbands, get over yourself - it's probably good at this point to remember that pride always comes before a fall and when self-satisfaction and smugness such as yours is expressed in a condemming way this is usually repaid by life.

    EDIT: Having just realised that you pick fights all over the place on this forum, I think I will bow out at this point, DFTT e.t.c.
  • naterciarodrigues58
    naterciarodrigues58 Posts: 105 Member
    My boyfriend is the most supportive partner one could ever get - however, he does not JOIN me in my journey, he does not eat healhty and does not exercise. He knows I have my food and he has his. I'm cooking for myself, if he wants some, ok, if not, he cooks. If I need to shop for food, I go shopping, he can come if he wants to. He's my partner but he's not living in my body nor is he responsible for it - I AM. I make my choices and make my way. He supports me by noticing the difference and understanding that I have different choices, he gives me motivation when I lack it and I have to admit I notice he does hold back when it comes to bringing bad food home because he doesn't want to "tempt" me. However, most of the times, he has his fatty, greasy, whatever food he wants, and I have my planned healthy choices.

    Whatever choice HE makes, is not YOURS. Make YOUR choices. He doesn't have to change with you to support you, and NO ONE but yourself is responsible for your choices.
  • I am struggling right now so badly. I have lost 22 lbs since April 2012. I was really determined to change my life that pretty much evolved around food. I love cooking and love food, so does my bf of 7 years... He is overweight but not too much. The main problem is he does not care for healthy food or exercising AT ALL. If I make something healthy (which I constantly do) he will eat it BUT if he ever cooks than it is always something unhealthy,fatty,bacon filled....
    He refuses to go to a gym or do any kind of exercises saying that is he too tired after work, will never go work out, does not have time etc etc...

    I have been doing really good on my weight loss until recently, but it is so hard to keep going when I feel like I am the only one who cares or tries ( I would work a 10 hours shift and then still drag my *kitten* to a gym class at 8.30 pm) This morning just put me over the edge, my bf drives our car to work and back, he did not get home in time for me to go grocery shopping so this morning we had nothing to pack for lunch.... He just said: oh go buy something (while making sure I fir into my $5 a day eating out budget)....he did not care that I can not possible buy anything healthy for that much, which means I am going to starve myself all day until I can get to a grocery store after work and go home to cook some food.

    Any ideas on how to cope with partners who do not care/do not want to do anything about a lifestyle change? (Leaving him is not an option:)) as he is an absolutely wonderful person in all other aspects of life).

    I understand completely. Though I am the other way around. My husband is UNDERWEIGHT. (9st at 6ft tall). I am trying to encourage him to work out with me and change the way he eats because he doesn't eat enough. He lives off crisps and sweets, full fat fizzy juice and chicken. He doesn't understand how hard it is to try and lose weight with all this temptation around. He also moans about him being underweight but wont do anything about it. I cant prepare a meal for 2 because he won't eat anything i make (or try it for that matter - he is like a petulant child when it comes to food) so we are spending more money every month cause i am having to prepare two meals at dinner time every day.
    I am not sure what advice to give you but i promise that if i get my hubby to come around i will let you know how i did it x
  • workout_ninja
    workout_ninja Posts: 524 Member
    You cant force your partner to make all the changes you are making just so you have someone to do it with. If he doesnt want to do it, then why should he? Now, that being said, he really must learn to be more supportive when he cooks dinner.

    Maybe you should speak to him about the things he cooks. Even to the point of "if you are going to fry the food, can you just grill mine instead and give me half" - its all about baby step.

    And if he is late home with the car, phone him and ask him to pick you up things at the shops.

    If he has been your partner for 7 years, why cant you talk to him???
  • toad493lbs
    toad493lbs Posts: 39 Member
    If you love someone and they have a real problem you do all YOU CAN to SUPPORT them. Its called LOVE! If she had a drug problem everyone would be telling him how unthoughtful he is. Because its just food well then hes OK?
  • fuzzieme
    fuzzieme Posts: 454 Member
    I'm a bit like this too, but I just be independent of him in that aspect of my life. I don't see any point in trying to make him join in, and he makes me feel like I'm making too much noise when I'm trying to exercise, but he doesn't mean any harm. The only reason he thinks I should lose weight is to make myself happier, which is nice.

    My advise would be just to not expect him to get in any way involved. He doesn't have to, and that shouldn't bother you. You wouldn't want him to make you do something you weren't interested in. Try keeping things in the house that you can fall back on in case of emergency, like a can of mixed means or sweetcorn and some cous cous. Not perfectly balanced but hydrate your cous cous, mix them together with some thai sweet chili or dry herbs and spices, whatever you like. If you have a pepper in the fridge and some spring onions, so much the better. At least when you're stuck you can have a cous cous salad to bring, which takes no time to put together and will be satisfying until you can get dinner.

    Just remember, you're your own person, and so is he. You both need space to be yourselves, and expecting things of him that he just isn't interested in will set you up for disappointment.

    Maybe he'll get interested when you're all lean and even more gorgeous, and he'll think about joining in, but he has to make that decision himself
  • T0FatToB3S1ck
    T0FatToB3S1ck Posts: 192 Member
    "it is so hard to keep going when I feel like I am the only one who cares or tries" You are the one who wants to go to the gym, change your lifestyle and lose weight. Not him. Why should he have to care or try. I honestly think you are being a bit selfish and slightly controlling. He didn't try to force you to work out and lose weight. You made that choice on your own. You shouldn't be trying to force him to change just because you are.

    And $5 budget for take out. You know, in my area they have gas stations that have sandwiches made that are 310 calories and only $3. There are plenty of options. Don't look for a cop out.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Oh good God, leave him alone!
  • mmm_drop
    mmm_drop Posts: 1,126 Member
    You are doing this for you you, right? You cannot rely on anyone else to push you or or cook for you or sweat for you. Just keep plugging along doing what you do. In the end you are the only one that can truly support the change in your own life.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    I think part of the problem is a lack of understanding of 'healthy' food. Why is fatty food unhealthy? Why is bacon bad? Bacon is actually very healthy, almost as good a source of monounsaturated fats as olive oil, plus a bunch of extra protein. Seems like you're trying to be ultra restrictive (for no reason.)

    If you both love food, what's wrong with enjoying real food? It's called portion control, you don't have to eat truckloads of good food, eat what fits in your calorie goals.
  • srslybritt
    srslybritt Posts: 1,618 Member
    Talk it out with him, let him know you feel this way, and work out what the both of you decide is best. A bunch of strangers on a forum aren't going to be able to analyze your relationship in a way that will put together a resolution that will truly make you happy. This is your issue, as a couple, and you need to communicate your feelings with him and have that conversation. It's not fair not to give him a chance to a) defend himself, b) realize what he's doing, and c) possibly change his behavior.

    TL;DR: Talk to your boyfriend about how you feel. If he's as great as you say, he'll at least see where you're coming from.
  • AniOnFire
    AniOnFire Posts: 33 Member
    People grow apart it happens. If you want a partner who will go every step of the way with you like that you should talk to him about it and if he doesn't want to change at least some of his behavior to compliment your changes, leave him... leave him or he'll suck you right back into where you were before you started.

    It's not a bad thing to suggest this, and to think so is a bit on the unreasonable side. My parents got a divorce after 26 years of living together because, their lifestyles grew so different there was little that overlapped anymore. She worked out nightly and liked to go dancing and he liked to sit at home drink beer and eat fast food most nights. There's nothing wrong with wanting to feel that sort of deep connection with your partner, to assume she should simply tough it out is ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with leaving your partner because you changed and they didn't. It's part of not trying to change another individual. That's just how it works.
  • JenAndSome
    JenAndSome Posts: 1,893 Member
    You need to just take care of yourself for yourself. If he doesn't want to work out and eat healthy you can't force him, but that's no excuse for you to give up on what you want to accomplish.
  • blgerig
    blgerig Posts: 174 Member
    For people with different goals/preferences my best suggestion is to have meals where there are options for both of you and to try to do activities that make moving fun/forget you are working out.

    The meal thing may sound tricky, but I will often make something like pasta with roasted veggies and lean protein for my husband and I. He loads up on the pasta and I load up on the veggies (his calorie needs are much higher than mine and he doesn't eat as healthy as I do anyway). The blog Dinner A Love Story talks about deconstructed dinners to please picky eaters - I am not about to make two meals and neither is my husband, so that helps us accommodate each others preferences.

    Second, if there is a sport or walk or biking or ANYTHING that is active but doesn't feel like working out, maybe you could try to do that together.
  • LolliLouUk
    LolliLouUk Posts: 172
    Quick question. Did you actually ask him if he wanted to make a lifestyle change with you and he agreed, or did you just decide to be healthier and expected him to go along with it? If it's the latter he can hardly be called unsupportive in my opinion.

    At the end of the day you are in control of what you put in your mouth, stop making excuses and others to blame. Sorry if that's sounds harsh.
  • R_Bedard
    R_Bedard Posts: 94 Member
    My fiancé does not always like the healthy options I cook. I love chicken breast and veggies, he hates chicken and is picky on his veggies. I simply cook what I want to have and then throw in a different option if he is not going to eat it. For example, if I want chicken pitas, I will cook two chicken breasts, but he likes donair meat better so I cook up that. Then the next day I use the chicken for something else ie. salad or sandwich and he can fix what he wants. He hates cooked veggies and I like them so I cook mine and leave his separate. I used to just cook things he would eat but now I do not worry. He will not starve - if he is hungry he will accommodate.
  • R_Bedard
    R_Bedard Posts: 94 Member
    As far as the gym goes - he will go if he wants. I ask my fiancé to join me (as we have a family plan) but he has been working crazy amounts lately so he often says no. This way he knows I want him to come with me, but there is no pressure. He will come when he is ready and willing.