Was independent, now home with a sabotaging mum, help?
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( please don't post nasty/sarcastic comments as in like trolling and that kind of thing
look at the guidelines if you're unsure what's acceptable. I don't mind if you don't agree etc and if i don't agree with you that's cool, i can see another perspective This is a genuine question/struggle, you don't know me or the details/full situation. i'm sick of people who troll people or are horrible too people on here when they need your help, not someone to be unhelpful and mean. thanks so much!)
Also ok it's NOT sabotage but it's complicated and i can't say no to my mum without her getting angry and blowing up, hence why it's a bit of a delicate situation. She's more just, not supporting me and so on
So while i started my 1st year of uni i gained so much weight, my diet was horrendous and i became quite overweight/very unhappy. I decided to take back my life and change my diet, get a fitness regime and get healthy/loose weight.
Being in uni i could stay away from processed food etc unless i was having a treat and so on. i signed up to my fitness pal and have a calorie and exercise goal, and due to being very short (under 5ft) i have to eat less than 'average' people
Now i've moved back home I told my mum about my lifestyle change and that i'm happy to make dinner for us all or eat separate so i can carry on. She now still (not purposely) sabotages my lifestyle as she gets processed meals (sometimes 700 cal for one meal! which isn't good when it's not very filling and you're on a calorie restricted regime) she also cooks things that aren't very healthy, filling and are high in calories, so i struggle hugely and end up basically getting very hungry and under-eating to cope!
How can i deal with this or get through to her to help me? I would sit her down and talk but she only sees things her way and gets annoyed very easily. i don't want to upset and annoy her, but i want to get healthy and happy again! I love my mum but it's hard to cope with control being taken from you and having someone who's not supportive or helpful. anyone else have this problem- feel free to add me and we can work stuff out together
Thanks in advance!
look at the guidelines if you're unsure what's acceptable. I don't mind if you don't agree etc and if i don't agree with you that's cool, i can see another perspective This is a genuine question/struggle, you don't know me or the details/full situation. i'm sick of people who troll people or are horrible too people on here when they need your help, not someone to be unhelpful and mean. thanks so much!)
Also ok it's NOT sabotage but it's complicated and i can't say no to my mum without her getting angry and blowing up, hence why it's a bit of a delicate situation. She's more just, not supporting me and so on
So while i started my 1st year of uni i gained so much weight, my diet was horrendous and i became quite overweight/very unhappy. I decided to take back my life and change my diet, get a fitness regime and get healthy/loose weight.
Being in uni i could stay away from processed food etc unless i was having a treat and so on. i signed up to my fitness pal and have a calorie and exercise goal, and due to being very short (under 5ft) i have to eat less than 'average' people
Now i've moved back home I told my mum about my lifestyle change and that i'm happy to make dinner for us all or eat separate so i can carry on. She now still (not purposely) sabotages my lifestyle as she gets processed meals (sometimes 700 cal for one meal! which isn't good when it's not very filling and you're on a calorie restricted regime) she also cooks things that aren't very healthy, filling and are high in calories, so i struggle hugely and end up basically getting very hungry and under-eating to cope!
How can i deal with this or get through to her to help me? I would sit her down and talk but she only sees things her way and gets annoyed very easily. i don't want to upset and annoy her, but i want to get healthy and happy again! I love my mum but it's hard to cope with control being taken from you and having someone who's not supportive or helpful. anyone else have this problem- feel free to add me and we can work stuff out together
Thanks in advance!
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Buy your own groceries and cook your own meals.0
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Buy your own groceries and cook your own meals.0
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Are you able to afford to buy your own foods? If so, perhaps if you approach it in your mind as a roommate situation?
When I lived with roommates, they'd have their own things and I'd have mine. When I moved back home for a brief time, I treated them a bit like roommates and still bought my own food because my parents ate processed stuff. Perhaps cook your own hot dinner when she has a hot dinner, that way you're not suffering with a salad while you're smelling something good. lol0 -
Buy your own groceries and cook your own meals.
^^^This^^^ I moved back home recently, so I know. You are still in control of what you eat. You don't have to eat what she (and the rest of your family eats.) It's only a problem if you let it be.0 -
Doesn't seem like she is forcing you to eat the food she cooks. Just make your own & join them for dinner.
Seriously when I am over at my parents they always have a ton of food ( healthy or not) and the day ends with either cake, ice cream or whatever they want. Mom offers once or twice and some days I partake other days I pass.
Basically its your choice what to eat, you can't expect other to change just because you did. This is your journey not theirs.0 -
thanks so much for the suggestions! It's only a problem as i KNOW my mum will go in a mood with me and get peed off if i do my own thing.. not sure why but she will and that's another thing i'm worried about
thanks so much again
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This is not sabotage. She cooks the food. She doesn't make you eat the food.
Maybe you should adjust your calorie goal if you're always hungry.0 -
I agree with the others, buy and cook your own food. It's really the only way to control what you want to control.0
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I'm not meaning this to be rude but, you're doing this for you and not your mom. You have to do what you can to take care of yourself and if she gets mad about it, that's all on her not you. I agree with other posters, bring in your own food, cook your own meals, and do the best you can with the environment you're in. Even if that means making large batches of healthy meals and freezing them in portions so you can just pop them in the microwave. If she gets mad at you, it might be uncomfortable for a bit but be honest with her and hopefully she'll respect what you're doing and ease up.0
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I love my mum but it's hard to cope with control being taken from you and having someone who's not supportive or helpful.
This bit.... stop and think for a moment. You have moved back home, your mum's home, full of the joys of having got to grips. But what about your mum? Her control?
Remember she is you mum, used to cooking for you, cleaning for you, thinking for you.... you have moved back all changed and partly grown up - I say that tapping 50 years old and still a child in my parents eyes. How supportive or helpful do you think she feels you are? Are you accidentally, in your quest to remain in control, ignoring your mum's needs, maybe making her feel wrong/bad?
Buy it and cook it for yourself. Offer to cook for two. But please do remember that the problems you have outlined go two ways... and your mum hasn't changed, you have!
I warn you though - no matter how successful you are your mum will never, ever, ever see you as a fully functioning adult. And if you call her on it she will get all hurt and defensive. But, just before your head explodes and you stand up for yourself it is always useful to remember - that's her job, she's your mum! And everyone elses mum does a version of it.
As Larkin wrote: This Be the Verse [edited to be polite ]
They [screw] you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were [screwed] up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.0 -
Even if it irks her, remind her that you are an adult. Buy your own food (write your name on it if you want) and cook just for you.0
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The only way someone can sabotage you is if they sat on your chest and forced food into your mouth. You really don't have the right to expect someone else to change their eating habits because you are. Buy and cook your own food and you will be fine.0
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This is not sabotage. She cooks the food. She doesn't make you eat the food.
Maybe you should adjust your calorie goal if you're always hungry.
^^^ This!0 -
The only way someone can sabotage you is if they sat on your chest and forced food into your mouth. You really don't have the right to expect someone else to change their eating habits because you are.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.0 -
thanks so much for the suggestions! It's only a problem as i KNOW my mum will go in a mood with me and get peed off if i do my own thing.. not sure why but she will and that's another thing i'm worried about
thanks so much again
So talk to her about it. You're an adult and allowed to make your own choices. If she wants to get mad and pout because you're doing something good for yourself then SHE needs to deal with that, not you.
Add me to the group that says to buy and cook your own things. What is more important to you, what you eat or keeping your mom happy regardless of the cost to yourself?
Also, and PLEASE don't take this the wrong way as it seems you are quite sensitive to negativity, but it really is a bit unreasonable to put yourself out there on the internet and not expect at least one or two opinions/comments that you don't like. Blatantly asking people to refrain from negative feedback might make it worse. I've seen people torn up on these boards for coming across as having an attitude like that.0 -
and due to being very short (under 5ft) i have to eat less than 'average' people
How can i deal with this or get through to her to help me?
First - NO. I am under 5ft tall I also have a thyroid issue and still eat 1500 calories a day and lose weight so ... just NO. You do not need to eat less than an averager person to lose weight.
How do you deal with this? 700 calories is not over the top, if you eat a normal amount of food than its no big deal, my dinners are generally 900 - 1000 calories. However being as your mom is taking care of the food, what if you were to only eat half of what ever it is you are eating and add a salad with grilled chicken or something filling?
Sit her down and just tell her "mom I appreciate you cooking for me but let me help, I will prepare the sides or the main dish. If she doesn't like that option just don't eat it. Buy and cook your own food if you have to, but I have found offering to help make dinner is a big thing. I spend a lot of time at my moms (my choice) she always cooks and she is a good cook, she has learned I eat half. Some days I send her recipes and say "hey next time I am home lets make this together!" majority of the recipes I have sent her have no become a regular part of her daily meals.
There are tons of ways to get things to change. However; your mom is not sabotaging you, she is simply cooking food.0 -
Also, and PLEASE don't take this the wrong way as it seems you are quite sensitive to negativity, but it really is a bit unreasonable to put yourself out there on the internet and not expect at least one or two opinions/comments that you don't like. Blatantly asking people to refrain from negative feedback might make it worse. I've seen people torn up on these boards for coming across as having an attitude like that.
You know, that's a very good way of putting it. I tried briefly to figure out how to say that and then saw this post, which does it way better than I would have. Saying "If you post something nasty or sarcastic, I'll report you" is like taunting people: "I dare ya!" You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it comes across.
Edited to quote your original words correctly.0 -
Let her read your post. Maybe she won't listen to you if you sit her down, but maybe her reading what you wrote in a question for help will get it thru to her. I know that would be easier said then done, but maybe you could even let her read it and tell her it's someone else, not you, see what she says.0
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I know it is hard sometimes with family & roommates to eat healthy. I had a roommate who was vegetarian. She would often prepare meals because she liked to cook with enough for me. I ended up eating less processed foods and actually cut most meats out of my diet while we lived together. Maybe you can get ahead of your mum by starting to cook before her so that she is less likely to start an unhealthy meal.0
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Eat what she cooks. Two words here - portion control.0
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This is a genuine question/struggle, you don't know me or the details/full situation.
It will be hard to provide additional suggestions. However, with the information you provided, there is no sabotage occurring and it is up to you to make your own choices.0 -
This bit.... stop and think for a moment. You have moved back home, your mum's home, full of the joys of having got to grips. But what about your mum? Her control?
Remember she is you mum, used to cooking for you, cleaning for you, thinking for you.... you have moved back all changed and partly grown up - I say that tapping 50 years old and still a child in my parents eyes. How supportive or helpful do you think she feels you are? Are you accidentally, in your quest to remain in control, ignoring your mum's needs, maybe making her feel wrong/bad?
thanks for this (and the rest) In response i do support her, she has lots of problems and i listen/help. i don't really tell her mine as i don't feel she could cope and most of the time, due to having the initial 'im being healthy' chat, i rarely say anything about her cooking, i never say i wont eat it or it's not healthy etc i just mentioned it today as it's been like 2 months and i'm just struggling and i help/support her, which is a lot when i'm struggling with myself! haha i respect her for doing so much but she doesn't need to and needs to see that i want to and can help. but she's stubborn and independent.. i see where i get it now :P
i know i'll always be her little girl but there is a point where you need to remind them you're growing up
thanks so much for your comment though, and everyone else! it's very helpful and supporting & to those saying i'm changing my eating habits and it's not fair on my mum, my mum's been told by the dr to go to the gym etc so i'm also thinking it would be best for her, as she's unhappy too. which isn't very good "/ i want her to be happy with herself again
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It's her house and she buys the food. She is probably just doing what she has always done and enjoyed. She is not sabotaging you. I was vegan for many of the years living with my family and I was so lucky and extremely grateful that my mom accommodated my diet. I never took that for granted! I really don't expect this of parents.
Seeing as you're a grown up and you're smart enough to live on your own and go to university, you should buy your own groceries and make your own meals. ALso, maybe just ask you mom to put a few veggies aside before adding butter, reduce portion sizes, skip dessert. This way, you won't interfere with what SHE is eating. Also, try to be polite about it and don't force your ideals on her. It might fuel the fire if you're telling her she is eats so poorly.0 -
Also, and PLEASE don't take this the wrong way as it seems you are quite sensitive to negativity, but it really is a bit unreasonable to put yourself out there on the internet and not expect at least one or two opinions/comments that you don't like. Blatantly asking people to refrain from negative feedback might make it worse. I've seen people torn up on these boards for coming across as having an attitude like that.
You know, that's a very good way of putting it. I tried briefly to figure out how to say that and then saw this post, which does it way better than I would have. Saying "If you post something nasty or sarcastic, I'll report you" is like taunting people: "I dare ya!" You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it comes across.
Edited to quote your original words correctly.0 -
Hiii....I am not sure how old you are but I have lived on my own, moved home, lived on my own, moved home etc etc...I would say, yes, if you can afford it, buy your own groceries and try to talk to your Mom again. Try and cook with her one night and maybe make it a group effort and show her what you are trying to do with food. It might be uncomfortable at first - I know my mom and I are both stubborn and sometimes it is just the change that is annoying someone. Like one other woman said who is a Mom (I am not), you have changed, not your Mom. It seems she might have good intentions and is doing what she always has (which to her I am sure worked great when you were growing up). I worry A LOT about my parents and what they think and I am 32 and I still feel like a kid in their eyes sometimes so I know it can be hard just having a conversation with the parents when you are trying to tell them hwo you are feeling about something. I would definitely try talking to her again and just face it, she might not like what you have to say at first but she might also warm up to it once you start doing it and continue to do it around her (whether that be buying your own groceries and cooking for yourself, or offering to cook a few nights a week for the family and yourself, or whatever). Bottom line, it is ultimately in your control no matter how old you are and your income. Work with what you have. if you can't afford to buy the food, try to go shopping with her or increase your exercise the day after a "bad" meal at home (if you didn't know ahead of time what was for dinner). Then it comes down to old fashioned self control (stinks to have to have that!!!! haha) so if there is junky food in the house, it is up to you to find ways to avoid munching on it! :happy:0
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If you don't feel you can buy/cook all of your own meals, how about just some of them? Can you choose your own breakfast / lunch / snacks and then eat the family meal for dinner (but eat smaller amounts to keep your calories down?) Exercise 30 minutes more to burn any extra from the dinner she makes?
I'm 50 years old and live with my mother half the time. I eat what she makes for dinner, and just count the calories and make it fit.0 -
thanks so much for all your comments ideas and suggestions
I'm going to accommodate for both myself and my mum by compromising when concerning dinner as i can try to plan for it, though she doesn't know what she's doing until last minute, help her, give little suggestions if she wants them and try to let me cook so she gets a brake! haha And also try to think more about her and be careful about how i come across to her, as i am grateful and don't expect her to me but to be a little mindful of i want more veggies and less morrisons made pasta pots etc but i'm sure we'll work it out
thanks everyone!0 -
What everyone else has said -- buy your own groceries (with your own money that you earn yourself) and cook your own meals. For the sake of domestic tranquility, you might eat before she prepares dinner and let her know ahead of time that you're still pretty full, but will happily sit with her at the table for the company and take a few token bites of her "delicious comfort food." Or make a big salad to accompany her meal and load your own plate up with that at dinnertime, but leave room for the token bites. A tenth of a serving of pasta is not going to make you fat, but will go a long way at expressing appreciation for her effort.
I think you've gotten some good advice here, and you seem to be receiving it well and thoughtfully. That's good. I have some more, which you may or may not like, but I hope you'll read it all the way through. So you will report me if you think I'm a meanie for saying this, but really... I'm not a meanie, I'm a mom. I'm going to share a little insight from a similar story. Here is what I read in your initial post and a subsequent one.Dear Mum,
I've left college and come back to live in your house and eat your food. But your food isn't good enough for me. You are sabotaging my chosen lifestyle by taking control away from me. I love you, but you are not supportive or helpful enough. By the way, you have problems. You would be so much better off if you'd just listen to me.
Love,
Precious
My son moved back home to be a commuter student after a couple years out of state, which was unexpected but welcomed. I love and treasure him, but if he were ever to complain about my cooking, I would tell him to take responsibility for his own meals. He is not a child; he's an adult, fully capable of providing for himself. If he wants food supplied by me, he eats what I supply.
What I supply is often takeout, because while he was away, I filled my "empty nest" with other obligations. My entire life had revolved around raising him, and I needed to find other things to do with my time. I went from part time to full time at work, I got involved with multiple local volunteer groups, I made a whole new circle of friends. It was a busy life that kept me from obsessing and hovering over him from a distance.
And then suddenly there was another person in the house again, a person who was even dependent on me for a ride to and from school until he got his own car. A person whose mere presence placed demands on my time, and whose presence at the dinner table meant extra dishes and a more complicated meal than I would bother to prepare for myself. A person who was the center of my life for 18 years and whom I changed my life again to accommodate, because I love him endlessly.
This is my second weight loss rodeo in the past few years. I had lost about 30 pounds from the time he left until the time he returned. I gained it all back in the following year. Not just because of his return, but it was definitely a contributing factor. With someone else in the home, common courtesy requires a somewhat different lifestyle than the one I was keeping alone.
Happily, he's a pretty independent young man. He holds down a job, buys a fair amount of groceries (for the household), prepares his own breakfast and lunch, and occasionally cooks dinner for us both before I get home from work -- for which I'm grateful because he's a pretty darned good cook and I'm a pretty busy working mom. In general, we get along fantastically because we communicate well and are considerate of each other's time and space. I think the world of him and respect him as the adult he's become.
I don't really need to know your "details/full situation." What you've said here speaks volumes, and the details don't really matter in a situation that's emotionally charged and complicated for both of you. Please look at it from her perspective. It's not all about you. She's not sabotaging you, even unintentionally. She's trying to cope with a life change -- whether it's one that brought you back as a dependent or as a caregiver, it's a big change in her life as well as yours. Instead of lecturing her about your food choices, go out and make them for yourself. You're not a child anymore. You control what you eat. And she's under no obligation to "be a little mindful" of what you want. You want it, you make it happen. You can work it out with her; just acknowledge her efforts in the process.
And for heaven's sake, don't try to control her. That way lies madness, failure, and tears. I'd suggest you work on living your own life as an example. If she sees it working for you, sees your results and how much more energy you have, et cetera, she may decide to try it. If not, that is her choice, and it would be presumptuous to think you can or should change her. Again, her perspective... She wiped your butt for a year or two. She raised you, and obviously she did a pretty competent job of it -- because here you are, a lovely and thoughtful young woman working to take personal responsibility for your own life and body. From her perspective, she's done a lot of things right. To walk in now and tell her that she's #doingitwrong is, perhaps, what one would expect in the early teen years.
Good luck. Relating to a parent on an adult level takes time, adjustment, and patience. On both your parts.0 -
thanks so much for the suggestions! It's only a problem as i KNOW my mum will go in a mood with me and get peed off if i do my own thing.. not sure why but she will and that's another thing i'm worried about
thanks so much again
one thing i've learned about parents growing up is that sometimes you just have to let them get pissed and go about your business. You're trying to better yourself, if she doesn't want to understand that then it's best to just let it be. Buy your own food, cook your own meals, if she gets mad don't talk back, don't disrespect her or yell, just go about your healthy living. Eventually she will understand that throwing a fit is not gonna sway you from the healthy changes you are trying to make, and she will relax. I had to do this with my grandmother since she was the cook in my house. I buy my own food and cook my own food so she doesn't even ask if I want dinner and she's always congratulating me on my progress. Give it time.0 -
and to those saying i'm changing my eating habits and it's not fair on my mum, my mum's been told by the dr to go to the gym etc so i'm also thinking it would be best for her, as she's unhappy too. which isn't very good "/ i want her to be happy with herself again
Which is very admirable, but I am here to tell you that it is a rare person that will choose to start a healthier lifestyle if they even think they are being pushed or maneuvered into it. Even simple encouragement from you is likely to backfire. Doctors can do it, sometimes, but the person's kid? Usually the person will go the other direction even more.
Best thing you can do here is to stick to your healthy lifestyle and be happy with it. If you set an example and don't try to encourage your mother to follow, she might actually do what you're hoping for and follow suit.
I'm in a bit of the same situation at the moment with a family member. Really hoping he gets on the bandwagon, and he has started to make comments that indicate he's thinking about it, but if I push in even the most subtle way, it's over.0
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