people who correct unsignificant spelling/grammer errors

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    That's "insignificent" and "intended".... unless you like looking illiterate. Yes, proper spelling is important!! Many people, if not most, will automatically discount things in writing if the spelling and punctuation are substandard. Don't believe me? Try submitting a job resume full of misspellings, see what happens.....

    That's "insignificent" and "intended".... unless you like appearing illiterate. You only need one space between sentences. Yes, proper spelling is important! Just one exclamation point, please. Many people, if not most, will automatically discount things in writing if the spelling and punctuation are substandard. Don't believe me? Try submitting a job resume full of misspellings. Run-on sentence See what happens.

    I was always taught to put two spaces after a sentence.
    That was the case for about 10 years in the 1970s and 1980s and it had to do with typewirter font. It is no longer acceptable.

    Wait a second...

    ...no longer acceptable or no longer required...

    ...because I'm almost certain that it is entirely acceptable.

    Runs off to LMGTFM it myself...
    Nope. No longer acceptable.

    Okay, I'm back.

    I feel like I just learned a beloved pet of mine had died. I had no idea the double-space had fallen so far out of favor.

    That said, I disagree with your conclusion that it is no longer "acceptable" as the MLA seems very clear:
    "As a practical matter, however, there is nothing wrong with using two spaces after concluding punctuation marks unless an instructor or editor requests that you do otherwise."

    I had stopped using the double-space after a colon years ago in what I thought was defiance against ridiculously outdated rules, completely oblivious that what I thought was rebellion was actually compliance.

    *sigh*

    I'm going to need a moment here.
    Pretty much outside of a college classroom, MLA means nothing. And it is only one of many, many styles. The others state clearly DO NOT USE more than one space after a period. You'll find few college professors these days accepting of it, either.

    It really isn't acceptable. But a lot of people still do it, as that was what they learned. I learned that, too. I had to unlearn it. We had a great layout program at my first newspaper that removed any extra spaces so you didn't have to think about it.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    That's "insignificent" and "intended".... unless you like looking illiterate. Yes, proper spelling is important!! Many people, if not most, will automatically discount things in writing if the spelling and punctuation are substandard. Don't believe me? Try submitting a job resume full of misspellings, see what happens.....

    That's "insignificent" and "intended".... unless you like appearing illiterate. You only need one space between sentences. Yes, proper spelling is important! Just one exclamation point, please. Many people, if not most, will automatically discount things in writing if the spelling and punctuation are substandard. Don't believe me? Try submitting a job resume full of misspellings. Run-on sentence See what happens.

    I was always taught to put two spaces after a sentence.
    That was the case for about 10 years in the 1970s and 1980s and it had to do with typewirter font. It is no longer acceptable.

    Wait a second...

    ...no longer acceptable or no longer required...

    ...because I'm almost certain that it is entirely acceptable.

    Runs off to LMGTFM it myself...
    Nope. No longer acceptable.

    Okay, I'm back.

    I feel like I just learned a beloved pet of mine had died. I had no idea the double-space had fallen so far out of favor.

    That said, I disagree with your conclusion that it is no longer "acceptable" as the MLA seems very clear:
    "As a practical matter, however, there is nothing wrong with using two spaces after concluding punctuation marks unless an instructor or editor requests that you do otherwise."

    I had stopped using the double-space after a colon years ago in what I thought was defiance against ridiculously outdated rules, completely oblivious that what I thought was rebellion was actually compliance.

    *sigh*

    I'm going to need a moment here.
    Pretty much outside of a college classroom, MLA means nothing. And it is only one of many, many styles. The others state clearly DO NOT USE more than one space after a period. You'll find few college professors these days accepting of it, either.

    It really isn't acceptable. But a lot of people still do it, as that was what they learned. I learned that, too. I had to unlearn it. We had a great layout program at my first newspaper that removed any extra spaces so you didn't have to think about it.

    Based on my (admittedly biased) research...(and I use that term loosely for what was actually a five-minute search)...I do not believe the consensus is as absolute as you would have us believe. Several prominent associations (including the APA) still prescribe a two spaces after concluding punctuation. And there is evidence for this standard that pre-date the typewriter...

    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)


    ETA: This feels much like an argument between a snowboarder and a skier.
  • mommabenefield
    mommabenefield Posts: 1,329 Member
    OKOKOK I is back i knowed i falled down on the job, howevar I is backed!!!


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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.
  • mommabenefield
    mommabenefield Posts: 1,329 Member
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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.

    :angry:
  • spud_chick
    spud_chick Posts: 2,640 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.

    :angry:

    Here is a long article explaining what she's going on about, but I'm sorry, I'm with you. Two spaces not only feels right, it looks right... to me. And I have a hard time believing it is now *widely* considered a violation on par with serious spelling and usage errors. This is the first rant I've seen about it and I work with people who handle our publications and correct their coworkers in other departments all the time.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html
  • CarolElaine25
    CarolElaine25 Posts: 102 Member
    One more thing: Don't expect people to read huge blocks of type. Create paragraphs with the "Enter" key.
    This x1000.

    Paragraphs are your friends, people.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.

    :angry:

    Here is a long article explaining what she's going on about, but I'm sorry, I'm with you. Two spaces not only feels right, it looks right... to me. And I have a hard time believing it is now *widely* considered a violation on par with serious spelling and usage errors. This is the first rant I've seen about it and I work with people who handle our publications and correct their coworkers in other departments all the time.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html

    Ha!

    Take that, rml_16...

    Read
    My
    Lips:

    your wrong.
  • cmcollins001
    cmcollins001 Posts: 3,472 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.

    :angry:

    Here is a long article explaining what she's going on about, but I'm sorry, I'm with you. Two spaces not only feels right, it looks right... to me. And I have a hard time believing it is now *widely* considered a violation on par with serious spelling and usage errors. This is the first rant I've seen about it and I work with people who handle our publications and correct their coworkers in other departments all the time.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html

    Ha!

    Take that, rml_16...

    Read
    My
    Lips:

    your wrong.

    uuuummmmm....
  • spud_chick
    spud_chick Posts: 2,640 Member
    Can we get back to the funny pictures? Because this thread is soooo not the place for earnest debates/arguments about this stuff. It turned from a sly joke into something not amusing at all.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    I haven't read the comments on here but thought I'd mention it's against forum rules to comment on spelling errors. I got a warning from a mod for doing it once when I wasn't even doing it! I was trying to inform the person to read what they post as their auto-correct was making their sentances unreadable. Can't get help if no one can understand what you are saying right?!
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    wow that's amazing I am truly a skimmer when I read I didnt even see your errors.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    PS language and syntax changes. Soon we will all be speaking in acronyms and brief spelling. LOLZ wut wut!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Can we get back to the funny pictures? Because this thread is soooo not the place for earnest debates/arguments about this stuff. It turned from a sly joke into something not amusing at all.

    If you don't think the last few pages were amusing...

    ...I would suggest that you read them again...

    ...but this time, with the knowledge that rml_16 is on my FL.

    (That doesn't make her any less wrong...

    ...but it makes the discussion less antagonistic.)
  • spud_chick
    spud_chick Posts: 2,640 Member
    Can we get back to the funny pictures? Because this thread is soooo not the place for earnest debates/arguments about this stuff. It turned from a sly joke into something not amusing at all.

    If you don't think the last few pages were amusing...

    ...I would suggest that you read them again...

    ...but this time, with the knowledge that rml_16 is on my FL.

    (That doesn't make her any less wrong...

    ...but it makes the discussion less antagonistic.)

    Ok, well if it's fun for you guys, that's ok then... :)
  • melb_alex
    melb_alex Posts: 1,154 Member
    insignificant*

    I am a grammar Nazi but refrain from correcting on this website and any other forum for that matter.

    I failed dismally at Maths and Chemistry so I had to excel at something ;)
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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    ...so just because you and some of your highfalutin publisher-types may *wish* two spaces were not acceptable, that does not simply make it so...

    ...at least not yet.

    (But even if you *are* correct, stop. Just stop. I'm not read to deal with this amount of change in my life right now.)

    You do whatever you need to do. :-)

    I will sit here and judge you.

    :angry:

    Here is a long article explaining what she's going on about, but I'm sorry, I'm with you. Two spaces not only feels right, it looks right... to me. And I have a hard time believing it is now *widely* considered a violation on par with serious spelling and usage errors. This is the first rant I've seen about it and I work with people who handle our publications and correct their coworkers in other departments all the time.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html

    You may work with those people, but I actually get paid to edit documents and have for the last 10 years. I also have a degree in English literature and am familiar with several widely-used style manuals (including AP and Chicago). I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

    Yes, there are still people holding on to the two spaces after a period thing, but those people are incorrect. Look at any professionally published book (NOT self-pubs), newspaper, magazine, etc., and you will not see two spaces.

    Sorry this got too serious for you, though. :-) (And, yes, Jojo and I were mostly joking around.)
  • sam308lbs
    sam308lbs Posts: 1,936 Member
    insignificant*

    I am a grammar Nazi but refrain from correcting on this website and any other forum for that matter.

    I failed dismally at Maths and Chemistry so I had to excel at something ;)

    *twitch*
  • Dunkirk
    Dunkirk Posts: 465 Member
    So if I'm speeding by 5ish MPH over the limit, but the officer is pretty sure I INTENDED to adhere to the limit, he should just let me go? How about in a school zone with kids crossing the street? Yes, like driving, bad grammar kills.
    Bad grammar is generally OK. It's bad punctuation that's dangerous.

    Let's eat, Gramma.

    Let's eat Gramma.



    You spelt Grandma wrong.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    So if I'm speeding by 5ish MPH over the limit, but the officer is pretty sure I INTENDED to adhere to the limit, he should just let me go? How about in a school zone with kids crossing the street? Yes, like driving, bad grammar kills.
    Bad grammar is generally OK. It's bad punctuation that's dangerous.

    Let's eat, Gramma.

    Let's eat Gramma.



    You spelt Grandma wrong.
    I know. :-)
  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member


    I was always taught to put two spaces after a sentence.

    I always use two spaces. It makes the text easier to read.
  • TwoPointZero
    TwoPointZero Posts: 187 Member
    Yes, there are still people holding on to the two spaces after a period thing, but those people are incorrect.

    "Incorrect" is a pretty strong statement for a language that doesn't even have an "academy" (not that that means much). Maybe a better description is "out of fashion" . . .
  • mommabenefield
    mommabenefield Posts: 1,329 Member
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  • DashDeV
    DashDeV Posts: 545 Member
    opps
  • mommabenefield
    mommabenefield Posts: 1,329 Member
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