Eat to LIve Dr. Fuhrman

Just curious if anyone out there has read this book/followed the diet, or is currently doing so. What's your experience/opinions?
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  • SJVZEE
    SJVZEE Posts: 451 Member
    Loved the book/his blog :) I'm loosely following his plan, but I'm already in maintenance, so I'm not doing it to lose weight :)
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    He's selling a product. His basic formula is silly and his premise that people must make dramatic changes in order to accomplish anything is wrong.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    Fuhrman rates up with there with Oz in my books...

    Quack science in a nicely wrapped package you are required to purchase in order to "learn" from.
  • SJVZEE
    SJVZEE Posts: 451 Member
    Fuhrman rates up with there with Oz in my books...

    Quack science in a nicely wrapped package you are required to purchase in order to "learn" from.

    I borrowed the book from the library :wink:
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    Fuhrman rates up with there with Oz in my books...

    Quack science in a nicely wrapped package you are required to purchase in order to "learn" from.

    I borrowed the book from the library :wink:

    Doesn't change the fact that the book is full of BS "science."
  • Fuhrman rates up with there with Oz in my books...

    Quack science in a nicely wrapped package you are required to purchase in order to "learn" from.

    QFT. Oz shills the supplement du jour and Fuhrman shills the PETA rhetoric
  • SJVZEE
    SJVZEE Posts: 451 Member
    Fuhrman rates up with there with Oz in my books...

    Quack science in a nicely wrapped package you are required to purchase in order to "learn" from.

    QFT. Oz shills the supplement du jour and Fuhrman shills the PETA rhetoric

    His plan actually allows for meat and dairy in small amounts. I've read his book and also spent some time on his blog and haven't gotten any PETA vibes at all?
  • barc0040
    barc0040 Posts: 4 Member
    I like dr fuhrman, but I much prefer dr. John Mcdougall and his book/plan "the starch solution". It's much easier to follow, more practical, and much more satisfying. I believe in his overall premise of eating a plant based diet, but, as dr mcdougall points out, veggies as the center of your meal is tough to sustain. Just my two cents
  • SJVZEE
    SJVZEE Posts: 451 Member
    I like dr fuhrman, but I much prefer dr. John Mcdougall and his book/plan "the starch solution". It's much easier to follow, more practical, and much more satisfying. I believe in his overall premise of eating a plant based diet, but, as dr mcdougall points out, veggies as the center of your meal is tough to sustain. Just my two cents

    Another good book :smile:
  • blpnana
    blpnana Posts: 35 Member
    I read Fuhrman's and found it very restrictive I never did take it "all the way." I'm 61 years old, according to the "wisdom" in the world, I need to lose 75 pounds as well. One of the things I have found is that whenever I go on a "diet" meaning a particular way of limiting food intake - I find that all I think about is food - what I CAN have, what I CAN'T have and I start labeling food as "good" and "bad" - saying things like "I really ate bad today." That kind of mentality. So all of this dieting stuff is something I want to get away from. I've read so many books on nutrition I could probably write a book myself - combine all of them and make a really good book!! Just take away from it what you can do and leave the rest behind. For me, it helped me get back to eating more greens - which is good. I did the vegan thing for a minute, but found myself getting so hungry (and bored with eating only vegetables) also when you eat vegan you need to make sure you're getting enough B12 so if you do the Fuhrman and don't eat "food with faces" please make sure you're getting enough B12. You can obtain this through vegan B12 supplements or a tastier way is through Nutritional Yeast - which is great sprinkled on salads.
  • blpnana
    blpnana Posts: 35 Member
    I'm going to seek that book out - thanks! The more info the better :wink:
  • blpnana
    blpnana Posts: 35 Member
    I like dr fuhrman, but I much prefer dr. John Mcdougall and his book/plan "the starch solution". It's much easier to follow, more practical, and much more satisfying. I believe in his overall premise of eating a plant based diet, but, as dr mcdougall points out, veggies as the center of your meal is tough to sustain. Just my two cents

    Another good book :smile:

    Going to seek this book out is what I meant - thanks :smile:
  • hellohappycarla
    hellohappycarla Posts: 85 Member
    Hello, yes I have read it and tried it but failed in my 2nd day. I'm a carnivore and his restriction to eat only pure vegetables is nuts. I couldn't do it. It was hard for me. But if it did not work for me does not mean it won't work for you either. He has years of study to back up his book and he has shown success stories there, so maybe it's true, it won't hurt to try. =)
  • SJVZEE
    SJVZEE Posts: 451 Member
    Hello, yes I have read it and tried it but failed in my 2nd day. I'm a carnivore and his restriction to eat only pure vegetables is nuts. I couldn't do it. It was hard for me. But if it did not work for me does not mean it won't work for you either. He has years of study to back up his book and he has shown success stories there, so maybe it's true, it won't hurt to try. =)

    You don't eat just veggies :) Fruit, beans, whole grains, nuts etc are all part of the plan. And some meat/dairy is still allowed, it's just not the focal point of your meals anymore. It's definitely not a plan that will appeal to everyone, but I'm really enjoying it :)
  • thanks so much for all the responses!
  • My grandmother read it and tried it for about... two days. It's very labour intensive and she said it was the worst food she's ever tried. I'm STILL trying to use up some of the bs they had her buy. I've found uses for some of it, but what I'm going to do with ground hemp seed, I have no idea.
  • I'd like to try 6 weeks of this, starting Jan. 2 (daily):

    • 1 Tbsp flaxseed
    • 1 cup legumes: chickpeas, black beans, lentils, kidney beans, cannellini beans, white beans, navy beans
    • 4+ fresh fruit: apples, bananas, berries, grapes, mango, melon, oranges, peaches, pears, pineapple, kiwi
    • 1 lb raw veg: Kale, chard, romaine, green pepper, frozen peas, cucumber, sprouts
    • 1 lb cooked veg: broccoli, zucchini, Brussels sprout, escarole, spinach, onion, mushroom, cauliflower,..
    • 0-2 oz avocado
    • 0-1 cup starch: butternut squash, brown/wild rice, cooked carrot, sweet potato, barley

    Anyone interested in joining me?
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Hello, yes I have read it and tried it but failed in my 2nd day. I'm a carnivore and his restriction to eat only pure vegetables is nuts. I couldn't do it. It was hard for me. But if it did not work for me does not mean it won't work for you either. He has years of study to back up his book and he has shown success stories there, so maybe it's true, it won't hurt to try. =)

    You don't eat just veggies :) Fruit, beans, whole grains, nuts etc are all part of the plan. And some meat/dairy is still allowed, it's just not the focal point of your meals anymore. It's definitely not a plan that will appeal to everyone, but I'm really enjoying it :)

    It's not a plan that caters to people who want to maintain lean body mass while losing weight, which should be every dieter.
  • Hi there. I did a little research and it looks like for those who have concerns about losing lean muscle mass (and not just body fat), that can be addressed by ensuring they wait until they're really hungry before eating, continuing to exercise, and adding more cooked greens and beans/legumes.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Hi there. I did a little research and it looks like for those who have concerns about losing lean muscle mass (and not just body fat), that can be addressed by ensuring they wait until they're really hungry before eating, continuing to exercise, and adding more cooked greens and beans/legumes.

    No, no, so much no.

    Wait until you're really hungry? What kind of nutrition quackery is this?
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Hi there. I did a little research and it looks like for those who have concerns about losing lean muscle mass (and not just body fat), that can be addressed by ensuring they wait until they're really hungry before eating, continuing to exercise, and adding more cooked greens and beans/legumes.

    I'd love to see the research.

    My understanding is that getting enough protein (which sounds like it would be very difficult on this plan), lifting weights, and keeping a reasonable deficit are the main ways to ensure keeping one's fat free mass. In fact, this study recommends getting MORE than the RDA for protein, and I don't see how that's possible with only "a little meat and dairy."


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23739654
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Hi there. I did a little research and it looks like for those who have concerns about losing lean muscle mass (and not just body fat), that can be addressed by ensuring they wait until they're really hungry before eating, continuing to exercise, and adding more cooked greens and beans/legumes.

    No, no, so much no.

    Wait until you're really hungry? What kind of nutrition quackery is this?

    It's the kind that can lead to headaches which will precede migraines. I lost weight like that because migraines make you nauseous and can last 3 days. If you can't eat from nausea and hurling, yeah you're gonna lose weight. But then you might gain it back when you are eating all willy nilly from being doped up because most people when they find you hurling your face off and screeching in pain and averting your eyes will take you to the ER and next it's psychedelic medicine time complete with take home meds....

    "I'm sick BUT I'M PRETTY, Baybeh! and what it al comes down to, Yeahhhh
    is that no one's really got it figured out just yet....." ...except they do. And they made a website about it. And it's free. And it has all the tools you need. And you don't starve. Or get headaches. Or buy special foods. Or give up the foods you like. And it works. And it has plenty of testimonials to that effect....if only I could remember the name?....
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I am not familiar with his program..

    does anyone have cliff notes version?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I'd like to try 6 weeks of this, starting Jan. 2 (daily):

    • 1 Tbsp flaxseed
    • 1 cup legumes: chickpeas, black beans, lentils, kidney beans, cannellini beans, white beans, navy beans
    • 4+ fresh fruit: apples, bananas, berries, grapes, mango, melon, oranges, peaches, pears, pineapple, kiwi
    • 1 lb raw veg: Kale, chard, romaine, green pepper, frozen peas, cucumber, sprouts
    • 1 lb cooked veg: broccoli, zucchini, Brussels sprout, escarole, spinach, onion, mushroom, cauliflower,..
    • 0-2 oz avocado
    • 0-1 cup starch: butternut squash, brown/wild rice, cooked carrot, sweet potato, barley

    Anyone interested in joining me?

    no...

    that is like 400 calories a day or something???
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Hi there. I did a little research and it looks like for those who have concerns about losing lean muscle mass (and not just body fat), that can be addressed by ensuring they wait until they're really hungry before eating, continuing to exercise, and adding more cooked greens and beans/legumes.

    is "waiting until you a really, really hungry" a scientific term??

    why not just wait until you are "really, really, full"...?
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    I read Fuhrman's and found it very restrictive I never did take it "all the way." I'm 61 years old, according to the "wisdom" in the world, I need to lose 75 pounds as well. One of the things I have found is that whenever I go on a "diet" meaning a particular way of limiting food intake - I find that all I think about is food - what I CAN have, what I CAN'T have and I start labeling food as "good" and "bad" - saying things like "I really ate bad today." That kind of mentality. So all of this dieting stuff is something I want to get away from. I've read so many books on nutrition I could probably write a book myself - combine all of them and make a really good book!! Just take away from it what you can do and leave the rest behind. For me, it helped me get back to eating more greens - which is good. I did the vegan thing for a minute, but found myself getting so hungry (and bored with eating only vegetables) also when you eat vegan you need to make sure you're getting enough B12 so if you do the Fuhrman and don't eat "food with faces" please make sure you're getting enough B12. You can obtain this through vegan B12 supplements or a tastier way is through Nutritional Yeast - which is great sprinkled on salads.

    A neurologist told me that lacking vitamin B12 can give you headaches.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    I am not familiar with his program..

    does anyone have cliff notes version?

    http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/what-is-a-nutritarian-diet.aspx

    I don't think it's that controversial, especially if you're already not a big meat eater. It was too strict for my tastes, I wasn't even compelled to try it after reading it. And his fascination with mushrooms and onions was a little weird.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Hello, yes I have read it and tried it but failed in my 2nd day. I'm a carnivore and his restriction to eat only pure vegetables is nuts. I couldn't do it. It was hard for me. But if it did not work for me does not mean it won't work for you either. He has years of study to back up his book and he has shown success stories there, so maybe it's true, it won't hurt to try. =)

    You don't eat just veggies :) Fruit, beans, whole grains, nuts etc are all part of the plan. And some meat/dairy is still allowed, it's just not the focal point of your meals anymore. It's definitely not a plan that will appeal to everyone, but I'm really enjoying it :)
    So it's a plant based diet with meat/dairy, I'd assume low fat? Sounds pretty healthy to me.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I am not familiar with his program..

    does anyone have cliff notes version?

    http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/what-is-a-nutritarian-diet.aspx

    I don't think it's that controversial, especially if you're already not a big meat eater. It was too strict for my tastes, I wasn't even compelled to try it after reading it. And his fascination with mushrooms and onions was a little weird.

    hmmm anything that has "equations", "rules" and "toxic foods" is a no no for me ...

    this is just someone trying to make things so complicated so that you have to buy their product, to enrich them..

    calories in vs calories out + make sensible food choices + workout/move more = long term weight loss and health...