Low Carb: Backed by research and recommended
AlabasterVerve
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There was a nice article in this months Today's Dietitian that recommends a low carb diet for diabetes. Here's a snippet from the article about weight loss:
Weight Loss
Many studies indicate that low-carb diets can be beneficial for weight loss, especially in individuals with type 2 diabetes suffering from insulin resistance and blood sugar dysregulation, as previously acknowledged by the ADA. For example, a study conducted at Duke University Medical Center compared a low-carb ketogenic diet (fewer than 20 g of carbs daily) and a low-glycemic diet (restricting calories by 500 per day) in obese subjects with type 2 diabetes.2 At the end of the 24 weeks, the low-carb group lost an average of 24.5 lbs compared with 15.2 lbs in the low-glycemic group.
What’s noteworthy about this study is that only the low-glycemic group members were instructed to restrict their calories, while the low-carb group had to limit only their daily carb intake but could eat fats and animal foods to satiety.
Another study published in the January 2008 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition using an ad libitum crossover design confirmed this hypothesis. The researchers showed that subjects who were obese felt more satiated and spontaneously decreased their calorie intake when fed meals providing fewer carbs and more protein and fat (4% carbs and 66% fat on the low-carb diet vs. 35% carbs and 35% fat on the moderate-carb diet). These findings could be the missing link to help individuals with type 2 diabetes reduce their calorie intake and lose weight without hunger.
Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns
By Aglaée Jacob, MS, RD, CDE
Today’s Dietitian
Vol. 15 No. 8 P. 12
http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/080113p12.shtml
Weight Loss
Many studies indicate that low-carb diets can be beneficial for weight loss, especially in individuals with type 2 diabetes suffering from insulin resistance and blood sugar dysregulation, as previously acknowledged by the ADA. For example, a study conducted at Duke University Medical Center compared a low-carb ketogenic diet (fewer than 20 g of carbs daily) and a low-glycemic diet (restricting calories by 500 per day) in obese subjects with type 2 diabetes.2 At the end of the 24 weeks, the low-carb group lost an average of 24.5 lbs compared with 15.2 lbs in the low-glycemic group.
What’s noteworthy about this study is that only the low-glycemic group members were instructed to restrict their calories, while the low-carb group had to limit only their daily carb intake but could eat fats and animal foods to satiety.
Another study published in the January 2008 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition using an ad libitum crossover design confirmed this hypothesis. The researchers showed that subjects who were obese felt more satiated and spontaneously decreased their calorie intake when fed meals providing fewer carbs and more protein and fat (4% carbs and 66% fat on the low-carb diet vs. 35% carbs and 35% fat on the moderate-carb diet). These findings could be the missing link to help individuals with type 2 diabetes reduce their calorie intake and lose weight without hunger.
Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns
By Aglaée Jacob, MS, RD, CDE
Today’s Dietitian
Vol. 15 No. 8 P. 12
http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/080113p12.shtml
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Lower carb diets may be better for those with insulin issues (PCOS, diabeties, etc) for sure however it doesn't always mean it's best for simply weight loss if you have no insulin issues. Weight is simply done with a calorie deficit... going low carb may help control calories as higher carb items can be higher in calories and a diet filled with good fats and protein will keep you fuller for longer and therefore not always needing the same amount of calories.0
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As someone who went keto about 3 weeks ago after not losing anything for months, I would agree that low carb can work for weight loss. I'm FINALLY out of the 160s!0
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Yes, but it's nice that dietitians are able to recommend a low carb diet to their patients. If you read the article you'll know that low carb isn't the standard recommendation at all. My mom has diabetes and eats more carbs in one meal than I eat all day because "the doctor said". I think this article is very encouraging.Lower carb diets may be better for those with insulin issues (PCOS, diabeties, etc) for sure however it doesn't always mean it's best for simply weight loss if you have no insulin issues. Weight is simply done with a calorie deficit... going low carb may help control calories as higher carb items can be higher in calories and a diet filled with good fats and protein will keep you fuller for longer and therefore not always needing the same amount of calories.0 -
I bet you there's a load of studies saying the opposite0
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Yes, but it's nice that dietitians are able to recommend a low carb diet to their patients. If you read the article you'll know that low carb isn't the standard recommendation at all. My mom has diabetes and eats more carbs in one meal than I eat all day because "the doctor said". I think this article is very encouraging.
And about time - they're finally accepting what a lot of us have known & seen for years (SMH)
Encouraging indeed, thanks for that Alabaster
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Very encouraging. My whole family eats a low-ish carb diet (the kids have a lot more beans, nuts and fruit than I do) and you know my mom has diabetes too so I'm going to send her this link. Thanks, AV.0
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Lol at referencing the Westman study. What is cherry picking?0
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Not so much.0
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Yea. No.0
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Yea. No.
What exactly do you disagree with?0 -
Not so much.Yea. No.
Where is the issue with the information in this article?0 -
Lol at referencing the Westman study. What is cherry picking?
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Thanks for the article I will read it carefully when I have time....and diabetes.
(Isn't this old information from like a decade ago? Isn't this just what Dr.'s tell you when you get diagnosed? Where's my tattoo pen?).0 -
What an insensitive post.Thanks for the article I will read it carefully when I have time....and diabetes.
(Isn't this old information from like a decade ago? Isn't this just what Dr.'s tell you when you get diagnosed? Where's my tattoo pen?).
It's great that diabetes and heart disease aren't a concern for you or your loved ones but for those who aren't as fortunate these sorts of articles matter. Low carb isn't the standard recommendation -- here's your medication, be sure to eat lots of healthy whole grains, fruit & vegetables and protein at each meal and stay away from artery clogging saturated fat is the recommendation -- we'll discuss insulin injections when the time comes (because for a lot of people that diet is going to guarantee the progression of their disease).
The references cited are from 2007 - 2011 so, no, not from like a decade ago.
References
1. American Diabetes Association, Bantle JP, Wylie-Rosett J, et al. Nutrition recommendations and interventions for diabetes: a position statement of the American Diabetes Association. Diabetes Care. 2008;31 Suppl 1:S61-S78.
2. Westman EC, Yancy WS Jr, Mavropoulos JC, Marquart M, McDuffie JR. The effect of a low-carbohydrate, ketogenic diet versus a low-glycemic index diet on glycemic control in type 2 diabetes. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2008;5:36.
3. Lindeberg S, Jönsson T, Granfeldt Y, et al. A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischaemic heart disease. Diabetologia. 2007;50(9):1795-1807.
4. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. National Diabetes Fact Sheet: National Estimates and General Information on Diabetes and Prediabetes in the United States, 2011. Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; 2011.
5. Nielsen JV, Joensson EA. Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvements of bodyweight and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up. Nutr Metab. 2008;5:14-19.0 -
Exactly. Some peoples priority is eating cake and not having fat thighs, anything else is beyond them. Don't let them get to you.
What an insensitive post.Thanks for the article I will read it carefully when I have time....and diabetes.
(Isn't this old information from like a decade ago? Isn't this just what Dr.'s tell you when you get diagnosed? Where's my tattoo pen?).
It's great that diabetes and heart disease aren't a concern for you or your loved ones but for those who aren't as fortunate these sorts of articles matter. Low carb isn't the standard recommendation -- here's your medication, be sure to eat lots of healthy whole grains, fruit & vegetables and protein at each meal and stay away from artery clogging saturated fat is the recommendation -- we'll discuss insulin injections when the time comes (because for a lot of people that diet is going to guarantee the progression of their disease).
The references cited are from 2007 - 2011 so, no, not from like a decade ago.0 -
"The researchers showed that subjects who were obese felt more satiated and spontaneously decreased their calorie intake when fed meals providing fewer carbs and more protein and fat (4% carbs and 66% fat on the low-carb diet vs. 35% carbs and 35% fat on the moderate-carb diet). These findings could be the missing link to help individuals with type 2 diabetes reduce their calorie intake and lose weight without hunger."
This part is so right. I'm not diabetic but that was the missing link for me too. I just automatically eat less when I go low carb. Now to stick with it... I don't know why but every time I lose weight I get cocky and forget how easy it is to overeat carbs and gain the weight back. Or I did, I'm sticking with low carb this time.0 -
Yes, but it's nice that dietitians are able to recommend a low carb diet to their patients. If you read the article you'll know that low carb isn't the standard recommendation at all. My mom has diabetes and eats more carbs in one meal than I eat all day because "the doctor said". I think this article is very encouraging.Lower carb diets may be better for those with insulin issues (PCOS, diabeties, etc) for sure however it doesn't always mean it's best for simply weight loss if you have no insulin issues. Weight is simply done with a calorie deficit... going low carb may help control calories as higher carb items can be higher in calories and a diet filled with good fats and protein will keep you fuller for longer and therefore not always needing the same amount of calories.
It shouldn't comes as a shock to anybody that low carb can be better if you're diabetic. You don't have to be a doctor to understand how insulin works and how carbs, fats, and protein affect the balance of insulin and glucagon. That being said, if you don't have any issues with insulin resistance, a low carb diet isn't any better than a standard diet for weight loss or for your health.0 -
What an insensitive post.Thanks for the article I will read it carefully when I have time....and diabetes.
(Isn't this old information from like a decade ago? Isn't this just what Dr.'s tell you when you get diagnosed? Where's my tattoo pen?).
It's great that diabetes and heart disease aren't a concern for you or your loved ones but for those who aren't as fortunate these sorts of articles matter. Low carb isn't the standard recommendation -- here's your medication, be sure to eat lots of healthy whole grains, fruit & vegetables and protein at each meal and stay away from artery clogging saturated fat is the recommendation -- we'll discuss insulin injections when the time comes (because for a lot of people that diet is going to guarantee the progression of their disease).
The references cited are from 2007 - 2011 so, no, not from like a decade ago.
References
1. American Diabetes Association, Bantle JP, Wylie-Rosett J, et al. Nutrition recommendations and interventions for diabetes: a position statement of the American Diabetes Association. Diabetes Care. 2008;31 Suppl 1:S61-S78.
2. Westman EC, Yancy WS Jr, Mavropoulos JC, Marquart M, McDuffie JR. The effect of a low-carbohydrate, ketogenic diet versus a low-glycemic index diet on glycemic control in type 2 diabetes. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2008;5:36.
3. Lindeberg S, Jönsson T, Granfeldt Y, et al. A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischaemic heart disease. Diabetologia. 2007;50(9):1795-1807.
4. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. National Diabetes Fact Sheet: National Estimates and General Information on Diabetes and Prediabetes in the United States, 2011. Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; 2011.
5. Nielsen JV, Joensson EA. Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvements of bodyweight and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up. Nutr Metab. 2008;5:14-19.
Calm down. Why does everybody always get their feelings hurt by posts on online forums. How was that post insensitive? I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science, instead, it just explained how low carb is better if you're diabetic, which to be honest, if you have done ANY research on nutrition, should be completely obvious and a no brainer. The other poster was just referring to the fact that she came to this post expecting it to be advice for everyone, not just diabetics, but like I said, the title was misleading.0 -
Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns wouldn't fit.<snip>I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science </snip>0 -
My mom has diabetes and eats more carbs in one meal than I eat all day because "the doctor said". I think this article is very encouraging.
same here... So frustrating!0 -
yea carbs suck0
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Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns wouldn't fit.<snip>I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science </snip>
...That also would have been misleading...I was referencing how the title should have included something about how low carb diets can be beneficial to diabetics...0 -
From the article:
"The American Diabetes Association (ADA) encourages individuals with diabetes to learn basic carbohydrate counting skills and aim for 45 to 60 g of carbohydrates per meal."
This recommendation seems way too general to me. A family member who is Type 2 diabetic (and VERY sedentary) kept telling me this all time (and trying to encourage me to eat more carbs because you can!). I kept looking at her and saying, but you weigh 100lbs more than me?! Doesn't it seem silly to recommend that we both eat the same number of grams of carbs at every meal??!!!!0 -
...I feel like I should have some gifs saved up for these occasions...
Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns wouldn't fit.<snip>I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science </snip>
...That also would have been misleading...I was referencing how the title should have included something about how low carb diets can be beneficial to diabetics...0 -
Low-Carb Diets — Research Shows They May Be More Beneficial Than Other Dietary Patterns wouldn't fit.<snip>I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science </snip>
...That also would have been misleading...I was referencing how the title should have included something about how low carb diets can be beneficial to diabetics...
Because nobody is interested in benefiting their health until they are deemed "unhealthy"?0 -
Thank you for posting this.
My Dad has type 2 and his head buried firmly in the sand!
My mother is a feeder and they are both over 300lbs
They are not interested in the biochemical science going on
They say they are too old to change.
I battle with them cyclically and it's very tiring.
This might help .... Maybe0 -
Oh please! You troll low carb posts like it was your job, you were opening this thread no matter what. Was it really that much of a strain for you to read the first sentence and move on? You have NOTHING of merit to add to these threads... ever.
What an insensitive post.Thanks for the article I will read it carefully when I have time....and diabetes.
(Isn't this old information from like a decade ago? Isn't this just what Dr.'s tell you when you get diagnosed? Where's my tattoo pen?).
It's great that diabetes and heart disease aren't a concern for you or your loved ones but for those who aren't as fortunate these sorts of articles matter. Low carb isn't the standard recommendation -- here's your medication, be sure to eat lots of healthy whole grains, fruit & vegetables and protein at each meal and stay away from artery clogging saturated fat is the recommendation -- we'll discuss insulin injections when the time comes (because for a lot of people that diet is going to guarantee the progression of their disease).
The references cited are from 2007 - 2011 so, no, not from like a decade ago.
References
1. American Diabetes Association, Bantle JP, Wylie-Rosett J, et al. Nutrition recommendations and interventions for diabetes: a position statement of the American Diabetes Association. Diabetes Care. 2008;31 Suppl 1:S61-S78.
2. Westman EC, Yancy WS Jr, Mavropoulos JC, Marquart M, McDuffie JR. The effect of a low-carbohydrate, ketogenic diet versus a low-glycemic index diet on glycemic control in type 2 diabetes. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2008;5:36.
3. Lindeberg S, Jönsson T, Granfeldt Y, et al. A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischaemic heart disease. Diabetologia. 2007;50(9):1795-1807.
4. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. National Diabetes Fact Sheet: National Estimates and General Information on Diabetes and Prediabetes in the United States, 2011. Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; 2011.
5. Nielsen JV, Joensson EA. Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvements of bodyweight and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up. Nutr Metab. 2008;5:14-19.
Calm down. Why does everybody always get their feelings hurt by posts on online forums. How was that post insensitive? I too am a little annoyed at the information presented because of the title presented. The title is extremely misleading and makes you think this post is going to explain how low carb is better for everybody and backed by science, instead, it just explained how low carb is better if you're diabetic, which to be honest, if you have done ANY research on nutrition, should be completely obvious and a no brainer. The other poster was just referring to the fact that she came to this post expecting it to be advice for everyone, not just diabetics, but like I said, the title was misleading.0 -
Yeah, because it always makes sense not to change one's lifestyle until AFTER they have full blown Type 2 diabetes. I changed to a ketogenic Paleo lifestyle when I was still in the extremely obese/pre-diabetes phase. Silly me, why the heck would I stop eating sugar and processed grain products before I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes? Especially since all of my health problems were only because I lacked willpower and ate too much. I needed to learn "moderation" and "portion control" not ever change WHAT I eat.
I'd laugh if it weren't so sad that there are a number of people on MFP doing their best to sabotage people who desperately need help, and who are sick and dying, made worse by going on extreme low calorie/low fat diets because that's the way to lose weight and get healthy; right? Wrong.0 -
As someone who went keto about 3 weeks ago after not losing anything for months, I would agree that low carb can work for weight loss. I'm FINALLY out of the 160s!
AMEN! I have Graves' Disease and recently underwent RAI to kill my thyroid. I was off meds for some time, and my appetite was out of control. Low carb has helped that situation, and I'm losing weight. I am currently down about 10 pounds and eating about 2500 calories per day on average. :bigsmile:0 -
Sorry, i like my 400g of carbs a day0
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