Eating every 2-3 hours a MYTH!??? WTH!

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  • Boogage
    Boogage Posts: 739 Member
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    I eat whenever I feel like it. Quite often I'll have 4 meals and snacks in between and I don't think the time or amount of meals I've eaten in a day has affected my weight loss. Oh I also often eat a sandwich or something in the middle of the night and that doesn't stop me weighing in lighter as long as it fits within my calorie limits.
  • faely
    faely Posts: 144 Member
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    I don't think anyone can tell you when you SHOULD eat. Our bodies tell us that, unless I'm confused on the word "hunger". (There are, ofc, exceptions to this as well). Everyone is different, period. There is no one perfect way that applies to all the world. IMO, there's nothing more conclusive than personal experience.
    Research from Georgia State University shows that people who eat every 2 to 3 hours have less body fat and faster metabolisms than those who eat only 2 or 3 meals per day.
    That research applies only to the people that were being researched. Stop blanket-applying it to everyone. We don't all fit into that mold, no pun intended.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    I did that for a while, ate that often. I've also done IF. Currently eating 3 meals per day. Just do whatever keeps you on track and makes you happy.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Lee Labrada

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lee-labrada-12-week-lean-body-trainer-nutrition-overview.html

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    Eat often. Berardi recommends eating every 2 to 3 hours. Each time you eat, you stimulate your metabolism for a short period of time, which means that the more often you eat, the more you’ll increase your metabolism. Eating every 2 to 3 hours feeds muscle and starves fat. By eating frequently, you reassure your body that you aren’t going to starve; that food will always be available. Skipping breakfast, eating only a sandwich for lunch, and pigging out at dinner, on the other hand, frightens your body into storing fat, just in case your next meal never comes. Research from Georgia State University shows that people who eat every 2 to 3 hours have less body fat and faster metabolisms than those who eat only 2 or 3 meals per day.

    Back to the Basics

    http://www.dietitiancassie.com/back-to-the-basics-nutrition-101/
    This goes 100% against human evolution. The human body evolved to eat large amounts of food at I e time, and then fast for an extended period of time until the next meal. If early humans had to eat every hour or two in order to function properly, the human race would've gone extinct over a million years ago.

    For the record, it takes 3 to 4 days of complete fasting to see any kind of metabolic slowdown. Skipping breakfast and having a bigger dinner will actually offer a slight metabolic boost.
  • EmilyDuby
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    Two or three meals a day works best for me. I've tried eating little amounts often and it doesn't work for me because then I never feel truly satisfied. I like to eat a nice big meal that's like 700-900 calories, that is what keeps me happy and keeps me on my diet so I allow myself to do that just not several times during the day.
  • shierrarobin
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    It depends on you.

    Me? I eat three meals a day. I eat breakfast sometime between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m. I eat lunch between 11:00 and Noon. And I eat dinner between 4:30 and 6:00 p.m. And that works for me. If I get hungry, I can wait till a meal because I've trained myself not to overeat, even if I'm really hungry. I once sat and watched my friends eat pizza when I hadn't eaten all day and I didn't touch a bite.

    If you're okay with eating three meals a day, do it. If you think you'd be more comfortable with a bunch of small meals, do that. Don't even listen to what the Doctors tell you. A doctor told me if I needed to only eat 1000 calories a day in order to be healthy, so you can't always trust them either. You know your body better than anyone. You do what you think is best for it.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    One thing with eating small meals all the time......
    Eventually you are gonna get really-in-the-mood for a nice BIG MEAL.
    Nothing wrong with that, just saying that it feels good to get filled up, too, every once in a while.
  • faely
    faely Posts: 144 Member
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    It is the illusion of a health benefit packaged for helpless morons.

    As one of those "helpless morons", I agree. A more steady-state blood sugar level keeps me at an "I'm satisfied, I only need to eat a little bit" level all day long. And when my blood sugar is low and I'm feeling dizzy and cranky because I haven't eaten anything in 12 hours, I'm helpless to resist my cravings and I make moronic food decisions.

    But as long as calories burned > calories eaten, you're good - whatever you as an individual find works for you. If you're the type of person who prefers to eat your daily allotment calories in a sitting and can manage not to eat anything else for 24 hours, then that's what you should do. If you can eat (your daily allotment)/20 calories an hour for 20 hours, that also works. And anything in between is fine.

    unless you're diabetic, i am pretty sure this is all in your head
    You can have low blood sugar without being a diabetic.

    I'm pretty sure he knows his body a lot better than you do.
  • jrutledge01
    jrutledge01 Posts: 213 Member
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    It is the illusion of a health benefit packaged for helpless morons.

    As one of those "helpless morons", I agree. A more steady-state blood sugar level keeps me at an "I'm satisfied, I only need to eat a little bit" level all day long. And when my blood sugar is low and I'm feeling dizzy and cranky because I haven't eaten anything in 12 hours, I'm helpless to resist my cravings and I make moronic food decisions.

    But as long as calories burned > calories eaten, you're good - whatever you as an individual find works for you. If you're the type of person who prefers to eat your daily allotment calories in a sitting and can manage not to eat anything else for 24 hours, then that's what you should do. If you can eat (your daily allotment)/20 calories an hour for 20 hours, that also works. And anything in between is fine.

    unless you're diabetic, i am pretty sure this is all in your head
    You can have low blood sugar without being a diabetic.

    I'm pretty sure he knows his body a lot better than you do.

    sure you can, but you won't get it from fasting for four hours
  • faely
    faely Posts: 144 Member
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    It is the illusion of a health benefit packaged for helpless morons.

    As one of those "helpless morons", I agree. A more steady-state blood sugar level keeps me at an "I'm satisfied, I only need to eat a little bit" level all day long. And when my blood sugar is low and I'm feeling dizzy and cranky because I haven't eaten anything in 12 hours, I'm helpless to resist my cravings and I make moronic food decisions.

    But as long as calories burned > calories eaten, you're good - whatever you as an individual find works for you. If you're the type of person who prefers to eat your daily allotment calories in a sitting and can manage not to eat anything else for 24 hours, then that's what you should do. If you can eat (your daily allotment)/20 calories an hour for 20 hours, that also works. And anything in between is fine.

    unless you're diabetic, i am pretty sure this is all in your head
    You can have low blood sugar without being a diabetic.

    I'm pretty sure he knows his body a lot better than you do.

    sure you can, but you won't get it from fasting for five hours

    Re-read it. He said 12 hours. And again, regardless of what you think you know and want to apply to a stranger, he knows what works for him so there's really no point in trying to debunk what he's applying to himself. It's not like he's applying it to you or anyone else.
  • jrutledge01
    jrutledge01 Posts: 213 Member
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    It is the illusion of a health benefit packaged for helpless morons.

    As one of those "helpless morons", I agree. A more steady-state blood sugar level keeps me at an "I'm satisfied, I only need to eat a little bit" level all day long. And when my blood sugar is low and I'm feeling dizzy and cranky because I haven't eaten anything in 12 hours, I'm helpless to resist my cravings and I make moronic food decisions.

    But as long as calories burned > calories eaten, you're good - whatever you as an individual find works for you. If you're the type of person who prefers to eat your daily allotment calories in a sitting and can manage not to eat anything else for 24 hours, then that's what you should do. If you can eat (your daily allotment)/20 calories an hour for 20 hours, that also works. And anything in between is fine.

    unless you're diabetic, i am pretty sure this is all in your head
    You can have low blood sugar without being a diabetic.

    I'm pretty sure he knows his body a lot better than you do.

    sure you can, but you won't get it from fasting for five hours

    Re-read it. He said 12 hours. And again, regardless of what you think you know and want to apply to a stranger, he knows what works for him so there's really no point in trying to debunk what he's applying to himself. It's not like he's applying it to you or anyone else.

    why would i read his post? i didn't even read yours! besides:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZawGXJADk
  • taiyola
    taiyola Posts: 964 Member
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    I honestly don't know how anyone eats 3 square meals a day. I can't do it - I get too hungry!

    On my days off I usually have 4 meals a day.
    On my days at work I have 3 meals, and 2-3 snacks, depending if I go gym after work (protein bar after gym plus normal snacks).
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
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    I had these same questions so I did some investigation and I've summarized what I found, below. If anyone wants links to the source documents or studies, send me a PM and I can provide them. So...in no particular order, what I've learned in support of eating multiple smaller meals a day:

    1) Protein utilization - You cannot utilize more than ~30 grams of protein per meal for anabolic purposes. Protein consumed in excess of this amount is either used for its caloric value (not optimal because protein is a "dirty" fuel), or will be stored as fat. Individuals with protein needs in excess of 90 grams/day, and who only eat 3 meals/day run the risk of being in a continual protein deficit. The body will react to this by catabolizing lean body mass.

    2) Excess thermogenesis of multiple meals - This is not a myth. It has been demonstrated that single, large meals are more efficiently processed than are multiple, smaller meals of equivalent caloric value. Another way of saying this is that it takes more calories to process multiple small meals. The difference in the caloric requirements is not trivial, and does effectively raise the metabolic rate of the individual eating multiple meals.

    3) Fat storage - Larger, less frequent meals produce a greater insulin response, which results in increased fat storage.

    4) Reduced time spent in energy deficit - This is related to the first point listed, but is slightly different. Consider that at any given time your body has a specific requirement for energy. It is less when you are at rest and more when you are exercising. Similarly, at any given time your body is receiving a certain amount of energy through nutrition. This level is high immediately following a meal and will taper off over time. Studies have shown that the less time spent during the day in energy deficit (and the avoidance of large deficits), the lower the amount of muscle catabolism the body will employ. Consider an extreme example of this: A person exercises hard in the morning, and eats one meal a day in the evening. Even if that meal is sufficient to cover the individual's daily caloric requirements, they will have spent most of the day in an energy deficit, catabolizing lean muscle mass, and they will spend most of the evening in a large caloric surplus, with a high insulin response, laying down fat. Think of this as reverse body recomposition. Now consider a person on the opposite end of the spectrum. They eat 5 small meals a day and they time their largest meals to be before and after their exercise period. This person can support both muscle growth and fat reduction. Ignoring that the frequent eater will have burned more calories as a result of the frequent meals, in these two example the two individuals will have engaged in the same amount of exercise and eating the same amount of calories per day, but by managing the amount of time during the day spent in extreme surplus or deficit, they will experience very different outcomes.

    The slide below illustrates this. Eating Pattern 1 shows a person eating multiple small meals a day. Eating Pattern 2 shows a person eating three large meals a day. Eating Patter 3 shows a person eating one large meal in the evening. It's important to note that all three end the day at the 0 line, meaning that they all exactly covered their calorie requirements. However, each of them spent all of the minutes and hours during the day at various levels of caloric surplus or deficit. Studies suggest that Eating Pattern 1 is optimal for avoiding fat creation and muscle catabolism.
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    Anyway...that's what I've found, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it! :laugh:

    interesting. I 've always eating small meals frequently, I'm the same size I was in high school.

    why would i read anything here? I'd rather go to the experts?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Quoted from a Registered Dietitian:
    "... if your trainer has you eating 6 small meals throughout the day to speed up your metabolism or believes that your body can't absorb more than 30g of protein in a meal, then he or she is incompetent about nutrition ...."

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/953531-protein-carbs
  • Hadabetter
    Hadabetter Posts: 942 Member
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    Lee Labrada

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lee-labrada-12-week-lean-body-trainer-nutrition-overview.html

    Additional source

    Eat often. Berardi recommends eating every 2 to 3 hours. Each time you eat, you stimulate your metabolism for a short period of time, which means that the more often you eat, the more you’ll increase your metabolism. Eating every 2 to 3 hours feeds muscle and starves fat. By eating frequently, you reassure your body that you aren’t going to starve; that food will always be available. Skipping breakfast, eating only a sandwich for lunch, and pigging out at dinner, on the other hand, frightens your body into storing fat, just in case your next meal never comes. Research from Georgia State University shows that people who eat every 2 to 3 hours have less body fat and faster metabolisms than those who eat only 2 or 3 meals per day.

    Back to the Basics

    http://www.dietitiancassie.com/back-to-the-basics-nutrition-101/
    This goes 100% against human evolution. The human body evolved to eat large amounts of food at I e time, and then fast for an extended period of time until the next meal. If early humans had to eat every hour or two in order to function properly, the human race would've gone extinct over a million years ago.

    For the record, it takes 3 to 4 days of complete fasting to see any kind of metabolic slowdown. Skipping breakfast and having a bigger dinner will actually offer a slight metabolic boost.
    I would dispute your characterization of what the human body evolved to eat. There was no one single set of conditions to which humans, world-wide were subjected. Some may have experienced what you describe. Some may have had a more continuous food supply. And regardless of the conditions, I would suspect that they changed with climate and as the bands of humans migrated across the continents.

    Having said that however, the human body is well adapted for the conditions you describe, as it is very good at laying down thick layers of fat when calories are in surplus, and in catabolizing tissue when there is a deficit. Those are the very tendencies we are trying to avoid. thanks for pointing this out to everyone.
  • lj8576
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    I used to eat a lot in a little time and I had stomach problems for a long time. I did not think that had anything to do with it but now I eat 5-6 times a day (mostly between 1100pm - 600am, I work nights) since I do this my stomach is much better. This worked for me BUT everyone is different.
  • aetzkorn14
    aetzkorn14 Posts: 169 Member
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    You do what YOUR body tells YOU to do, and stop listening to the BS claims that timing your eating to someone else's schedule will work for YOU.

    Personally, I'm a snacker. When I can, I eat a very small something about every 1-2 hours. There are two reasons for this.

    1. If I "starve" myself and wait for a full meal, I'm gonna eat. And eat. Because I'm HUNGRY. I'm not going to make good decisions. Because I'm HUNGRY. And when the table's empty I'm gonna hit the fridge. If I nibble all day long I'm never hungry. When I sit down for meals, I can look at the array of fuels laid out before me and make rational decisions about enjoying a little of what I want, and eating more of what I need.

    2. Grazing gives me fewer opportunities to sit down in a setting where there ARE large amounts of food available.

    Yes, I could plan out supper, but when I get home and I haven't eaten since lunchtime, my plans fall apart, and so does the fridge door in my desperate rush to get in there and start chewing at anything that doesn't move (and club anything that does and eat that anyway).

    However, I have a lot of friends who can't stand grazing, and prefer 3, 2, or even in some cases 1 meal a day. I'd be stark-raving-bat$hit-crazy-hungry if I tried that, but it works for them.

    EDIT: I also feel that eating smaller amounts more constantly gets me more used to being "satisfied" and less used to being "full", so when large amounts of food become available I don't feel like I have the stomach capacity to eat a LOT. I don't think my stomach is actually getting smaller, and it may well be psychosomatic for me to feel that way (and there are certainly times when I eat more than I should!), but I feel like converting to eating small amounts more frequently has allowed me to exercise better portion control when unhealthy foods are presented to me. I can be satisfied with half a donut instead of eating three of them. Again, I don't think there's a physiological explanation, but the psychology is working on me and that's enough for me!
    I really like this answer. I think it should be on an individual basis. I just try to eat before I get hungry or else I get Hangry( hunger and anger confused) and I will settle for junk.
  • Birder150
    Birder150 Posts: 677 Member
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    I eat 4 times a day on average.
    I've quit listening to the 'noise' and I do what's right for me.
    I eat what, when & how much I want to, not what some 'expert' claims is best.

    You are your own expert. Find what works for you and what'll make you stick to your plan.
  • ElikaCousland
    ElikaCousland Posts: 62 Member
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    IN for frightening my body into ignoring thermodynamics!!!
    I lol'd.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    In....for the eventual "everybody is different" conclusion to this thread.


    And by conclusion, I mean backpedaling concession.