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  • Faery_Dust
    Faery_Dust Posts: 246 Member
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    HaHA I am not giving up maybe Just with this program, I have already lost 120 lbs and have 80 more to go I worked very hard to lose it , so my name is very appropriate but thanks for your support you a real help

    You keep saying "this program". Do you mean MFP? If so, change your goals to losing one pound a week. Eat the calories it gives you and eat some of your exercise calories (I say some because in my experience MFP over-estimates for me). Increase protein and don't worry about carbs and fat too much at this stage, you can always focus on them when the majority of weight has shifted.

    I have about 60lbs to lose and am only 5ft 4 inch. I eat anywhere between 1400 - 2000 calories a day depending on what exercise I do and I lose weight. The program does work. If you have 80lbs of weight to lose then you don't need to eat only 1200 calories a day to do it. As someone suggested above, google search for scooby workshop TDEE calculator and accurately work out your calorie needs. That will help you see why people say 1200 is too low, it's most likely below your BMR.
  • nevergiveup51
    nevergiveup51 Posts: 48 Member
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    Okay thanks I was eating more protein until I came on this program in fact I removed the protein off my menu because I was eating too little amount in the beginning had horrible headache for 14 days, but was trying to follow this to a tee. Okay maybe I will keep trying this because I really do like it and don't want to give it up I'm just so discouraged. And this is the first time in my life that I actually exercised I lost alot of weight without it but now I really like going to the gym. Okay I will give it more time and I will eat more protein Thanks
  • nevergiveup51
    nevergiveup51 Posts: 48 Member
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    Water retention might be it I feel so bloated all the time
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Okay Thanks but why did MFP give me a 1200 cal diet to follow now I know why I had a headache for a week when I first started I was just following what the numbers said. If I only lose a 1 lb a week it will take me forever to lose 80 lbs uuggh there has to be a faster way, my co worker went on a crash diet didn't eat and only lived on protein shakes and she def didn't get 1200 cal a day and she never exercised she is now too thin lost 40 lbs in about 2 months now she starved herself so how is it different with me we are the same age.

    In the time it took me to lose 46 lbs my mother-in-law lost 40 lbs . . . 3 different times. She kept going on fasting diets to shed the weight, and soon after hitting goal weight she went back to eating normally and gained everything back. Now I've been maintaining for 6 months and she's at her highest weight to date. But if you had looked at us both at 2 or 3 months in, you would have thought that she was doing much better than I was.

    It's frustrating when weight loss is slow (although yours sounds like it's progressing at a healthy pace) but remember that you should be using this time to develop the habits that will ensure you don't gain back what you lose.

    Have patience.
  • hazelovesfood
    hazelovesfood Posts: 454 Member
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    I know. people on here that are eating that and less and the weight is flying off:mad: , I think you get to a point where you just seem like its all too confusing, one person says one thing, another says another, some scientist says another. Eat what you want and still lose weight blah blah blah..
    Your weight lose is probably starting to slow down after you already lost so much. I cant seem to lose weight without stress and eating very low, i eat at my bmr i dont lose, i eat above i dont lose, i eat at my daily allowance i put on weight. Im not joking, nothing works for me lol, my body just doesnt want to let go of it lol.Ive now learned to live with it now,
    Ive put on 3llb in just 3 weeks which im not happy about but ive been eating more and exercising less. Things have been getting in the way.
    I look at tv programs like a year to save my life and there all put on extreme diets of 1200 to lose weight and they are being trained to within a inch of there lives, now that cant be doing them any good can it, yes and no, on the outside the fat is going quick, but on the inside you might be doing some damage to your organs through calorie restriction.
    I can put it on so easy it seems and yet so hard to get it off without cutting back too much.
    By the way eating 1200 a day and going to the gym everyday will not put on muscle at all, it will lose muscle, - you need to eat above your allowance for you t gain muscle. In a calorie restriction your body pulls at any source it can for power, ie fat and muscle.
  • nevergiveup51
    nevergiveup51 Posts: 48 Member
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    Thanks everyone for your help I really want this to work and I will take all your suggestions especially for the people who actually cared to help me. I am not trying to be negative I knew I should have been eating more protein damn oh well I will keep trying this
  • heffalumps23
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    OKAY issue the fact that your not reaching your needed calorie intake and your body is in starvation mode my personal trainer said its better to accidently go over than be under.... by going over you can exercise and work it off before you go to sleep after your done eating for the day then to not eat enough your body will store more fat and you need some protein not just veggies and also you could drink water and add some lemon to it and it should help you some also.
  • naturallyme36
    naturallyme36 Posts: 155 Member
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    YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE UNREALISTIC!!!!!! You are too grown for this. Just go back to your original plan and get the Lap Band and deal with those side effects rather than the ones that you are getting here. The answer here is real simple. This is just my opinion!
  • kreza98
    kreza98 Posts: 13 Member
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    Hey - starvation diets are not safe or sustainable. You're doing fine on MFP, and as others have said you probably should be eating more especially if you're working out a lot.

    MFP starts everyone off on 1200 cals, but our calorie requirements are all different. Find out what yours are (Scooby's TDEE calculator is great for this), work out the amount of calories you should be eating in a day, and then set MFP up accordingly. It will let you set custom protein, carb & fat targets as well the overall calorie target.

    Don't worry about the scales so much. Get an Accumeasure 3000 bodyfat caliper and practice using it. They only cost a few quid on Amazon and are a far better judge of how much bodyfat you have. Scales are not going to give you a complete picture because as others said muscle weighs more than fat (when the volume is the same).

    Above all, hang in there! Body change is measured in years, not months. Set goals, keep them in mind at all times, and stay focused. Think of this as a permanent lifestyle change, rather than a program with a fixed duration.
  • FrenchMob
    FrenchMob Posts: 1,167 Member
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    YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE UNREALISTIC!!!!!! You are too grown for this. Just go back to your original plan and get the Lap Band and deal with those side effects rather than the ones that you are getting here. The answer here is real simple. This is just my opinion!
    Yes get the surgery and possibly die on the table or later from complications. It's worth it.
  • mamadon
    mamadon Posts: 1,422 Member
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    I ak 51 years old, just like you. I've been using MFP for almost 8 months. I eat 1200 calories, (I know, I know, I am ruining myself) I exercise three times a week. I look at calories in/out only, not carbs protein etc. I have lost almost eighty pounds. It does work, you just have to stick with it and be patient. You have already lost a great deal and thats wonderful, but the weight took a long time to put on and takes a long time to take off. You HAVE to stop looking at it as though you are in a hurry. Take the time to do it right, so you can stay healthy for the rest of your life. This is not a race. I still have a good forty pounds to go. It it takes six months great, if it takes a year thats fine too. The point is I am not in a rush, this is a life change.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Also I looked at your diary. Two days ago you had Red Lobster, which is very high in sodium. Your 2 lb gain is water retention. Relax. And be patient.
  • kreza98
    kreza98 Posts: 13 Member
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    I ak 51 years old, just like you. I've been using MFP for almost 8 months. I eat 1200 calories, (I know, I know, I am ruining myself) I exercise three times a week. I look at calories in/out only, not carbs protein etc. I have lost almost eighty pounds. It does work, you just have to stick with it and be patient. You have already lost a great deal and thats wonderful, but the weight took a long time to put on and takes a long time to take off. You HAVE to stop looking at it as though you are in a hurry. Take the time to do it right, so you can stay healthy for the rest of your life. This is not a race. I still have a good forty pounds to go. It it takes six months great, if it takes a year thats fine too. The point is I am not in a rush, this is a life change.

    Spot on.
  • Frankii_x
    Frankii_x Posts: 238
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    I think it's your expectations that are not working for you. MFP seems to be doing just fine. You weigh less than you did at the beginning of your time here - how is that not working?

    Realistically - do a bit of research. It's your body and you can't expect everyone/thing else to do all the work and research for you. Everyone's body is different and works in different ways - some people do well on 1200 calories, others feel like they're being starved. This isn't an exact science - if it were the diet industry wouldn't exist.

    I hope you lose your 80lbs and well done on the 120lbs lost so far, you clearly want this. Maybe it's just time to put in a bit of work in the research side of things, too.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    don't forget that going to gym 5 plus times a week actually puts on muscle size which weighs more!! I would be tempted to go by the tape measure and not the scales for a while you will be surprised of the transformation of body shape etc.. don't give up it WILL happen ... good luck and keep yer chin up xx...............carbs and protein should be eaten together as one works with the other to make it more beneficial hope this helps .......
    a pound equals a pound:) muscle is more dense than fat.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE UNREALISTIC!!!!!! You are too grown for this. Just go back to your original plan and get the Lap Band and deal with those side effects rather than the ones that you are getting here. The answer here is real simple. This is just my opinion!
    OP please don't listen to this advice! That is a quick fix with the possiblity of health complications.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
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    Here's what I see by looking at a few days of your diary. Your vegetables are great! First, you are not drinking, or logging, enough water. When you don't drink enough your muscles hold onto water. I drink at least 11 cups a day and try for a gallon and I see a huge difference when I get closer to the gallon. Second, your carbs far out number your protein so you need to cut carbs and increase protein. Plus you want the majority of your carbs to come from natural sources such as fruit and vegetables, not processed foods. You need carbs for energy so you don't want to completely cut them out.

    I would recommend you figure out your BMR and eat at least those calories so over the long run you don't slow your metabolism, unless you want to eat 1200 calories for the rest of your life. Also, you need to try and get more exercise, walking is one of the best things you can do. If you can, join a gym and see about working with a trainer to start lifting. Every 10 lbs of muscle you add burns 3500 calories a week, that right there is 1 lb a week.

    Look into TDEE and see if maybe TDEE-% might be more appropriate for you. You can learn about it on Scooby's workshop or IIFYM (if it fits your macros). I would try setting your macros to 40% protein, 35% carbs and 35% fats and see what happens.

    Give this some time, depending on how long you have been eating at 1200 calories will somewhat affect your weight loss. You are not in starvation mode, that takes months to occur on very, very low calories, or weeks on zero calories. But because your body needs a certain amount to maintain your vital organs it may be holding onto everything you put into it.

    Finally, be sure you measure and weigh absolutely everything that you put into your mouth. The little things add up very quickly.

    Remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint. As you get closer to your goal your weight loss should slow down or you have a higher likelihood of gaining it back. Look at how far you've come already, 120 lbs, that's awesome and you should be happy about that. The rest will come off but you need to give it time and tweek some things.

    Your friend that is crash dieting will probably gain all of the weight back she's lost, that's not healthy.

    Good luck
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    What I recommend is configuring your own BMR and then your TDEE. Than take a deficit of 15-20 percent off this or 500 calories:)
    http://www.matthewscaloriecounter.com/calorie_calculators/daily_calorie_limit_calculator.aspx
    or google the Harris Benedict equation. Now this may not be the most accurate because that happens in a lab. You may have to play with the numbers!
  • seinfeldlove
    seinfeldlove Posts: 17 Member
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    I agree with Mamadon, focus on calories for now, let the protein, carbs, etc. sort themselves out in time. By they way, Mamadon you are my inspiration today! I was struggling with whether to keep on with MFP too, or going back to Weight Watchers. The beauty of WW is the points system is to simple. But in deciding to focus on doing things that are healthier overall, and being able (and ready, mentally) to look at the big picture and not just the scale, I gave MFP a try. Now I'm thinking some days, if the exercise calculator doesn't figure my activity accurately, and I have to go off site to verify them someplace else, and alot of the calories in
    the database aren't accurate either, then what am I here for? Yes it's a good tool to figure it up for me, do the math that I'm not willing to do, but I find myself chasing around other sites for more accurate information just to come here and log them into my diary.

    Sorry, OP, not much help here, lol. Except to say you've done AMAZING so far and not that you asked but in my opinion I would rather keep trying on my own than to go the lap band surgery route. That's just me. You know you can do it, you've been doing it. Accept that the last weight to lose will be the hardest (at WW we call it the Hard Lard) and enjoy the journey.
  • Woomytron
    Woomytron Posts: 253 Member
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    5 lbs in a month is pathetic

    er, what?

    I know right. 5 lbs is amazing. Wanna know what I lost in 5 months... 1 freaking lb. I will trade you if you don't like your 5lbs.