Scared of being slim
joselo2
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Just had to express it, part of me is stil hanging back with the weight loss because I am scared of being slim. I've always been fat ever since I was a child, and ever since about 16, I have been what could be classed as really quite exceptionally large. It's just how I know myself so part of me worries I'll lose part of my identity, even if it is a negative part. Being this size hasbeen helpful to me some ways, I guess it is protection, it makes me feel safe. It particularly made me feel a bit protected against relationships, and if this isn't TMI, sexual stuff. I know lotsa of people my size and bigger do enjoy these things but I guess I thought it'd make me less visable. It just makes me feel safe I guess, like people see me as innocent an things, maybe vulnerable because obesity is such an obvious sign of a personal weakness. I suppose I feel like people would be kinder and have less expectations of me (I don't think I am right about knder since I get alsorts of hate for my size!). I can't describe it well, sorry for such a rambling post. Just like, the thought of being slim scares me. Even now I can't see my goal as being anything less than still chubby, and even that seems scary. I don't know, just thoughts I am having. I am stll trying though because the other half of me would love to be slim.
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I'm terrified of having a nice home to raise a family in and earning a degree in the field of my interest.
Oh, wait, no I'm not, because that makes no sense. :huh:
I'm not sure what this post is about...do you have a question we can help you with? Because no one can maker you WANT or be excited to be slim. That comes from within.0 -
I don't know, just wanted to say it really, maybe should have blogged it or something.
It is a bit logical though because something musthave been making me keep making that choice to be fat for years, else i'd be slim. Maybe it was purely the reason of how nice food is, but maybe also not.0 -
Ask yourself what scares you more...the thought of being insulin dependent, or the thought of being healthy?0
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For someone that has been very heavy, for a long time, there are often emotional factors in there. As you begin to lose weight, you start to face that. It's normal and all part of the process. Facing those feelings is what will make your weight loss successful and sustainable. So, you are doing the right thing to examine those emotions. It will benefit your life in many ways.0
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Absolutely do NOT mean to be unkind in any way, but I've seen several of your posts and your reasons for overeating seem to be all over the place. I am hoping you will speak to your healthcare provider about counseling to help unravel the root cause and get help...
Truly wishing you the best!:flowerforyou:0 -
Just had to express it, part of me is stil hanging back with the weight loss because I am scared of being slim. I've always been fat ever since I was a child, and ever since about 16, I have been what could be classed as really quite exceptionally large. It's just how I know myself so part of me worries I'll lose part of my identity, even if it is a negative part. Being this size hasbeen helpful to me some ways, I guess it is protection, it makes me feel safe. It particularly made me feel a bit protected against relationships, and if this isn't TMI, sexual stuff. I know lotsa of people my size and bigger do enjoy these things but I guess I thought it'd make me less visable. It just makes me feel safe I guess, like people see me as innocent an things, maybe vulnerable because obesity is such an obvious sign of a personal weakness. I suppose I feel like people would be kinder and have less expectations of me (I don't think I am right about knder since I get alsorts of hate for my size!). I can't describe it well, sorry for such a rambling post. Just like, the thought of being slim scares me. Even now I can't see my goal as being anything less than still chubby, and even that seems scary. I don't know, just thoughts I am having. I am stll trying though because the other half of me would love to be slim.
These are really valid concerns. But the first question is, what is the underlying issue for your weight gain (and maintaining). For many people there is a deeper emotional issue. For some people (and this sounds like it is true in your case), extra weight is protective. IT protects you from getting more attention, forming close bonds with people and whole host of other things. So how can you maintain your shell, when you need it, without letting your weight function as your shell?
Here are some really good blog posts on this topic:
http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/blog/losing-weight-and-losing-identity/
http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/blog/how-losing-weight-made-me-a-feminist/
But the first thing is that you really have to develop a bit of confiedence in yourself the way you are now, and the way you hop to be (easier said than done).
You won't achieve the success you want until you get the root of the emotional issues.0 -
I have NOT always been over weight so in that way I can't really relate but that being said I do understand your point. It is an interesting concept that I have never really heard expressed. It definitely helps me understand other people with weight issues that I know.
The post by RobinMWilson is absolutely correct though. In the past 5 years since my weight problems developed due to the lack of the ability to remain active as I have always been before some unfortunate injuries leaving me with many permanent disabilities. In that short period of time I have developed other health issues like she is speaking of. I have been diagnosed with diabetes and high blood pressure which are greatly improving with the 70 lb. weight loss
I do not fear being thin and look forward to it and I hope you come around and recognize the serious issues being over weight could cause. I have already had. I have gone from a 4XL to XL and some Large shirts and from a 56 inch waist to now wearing 36 inch waist pants. I look forward to losing the remaining 34 lbs. I have to go.
Thanks for your insight.0 -
Thanks jaded, that's cool
slim4health, i duess I am all over the place, or at least my understanding of it is just not good. I am a bit all over the place in general, to be fair.
Glad if I can help people understand. People don't imagine that anyone would on any level want to be fat but I guess it is true, something must be keeping us this way!0 -
I know exactly how you feel; there is no mystery to the fear, from my perspective because I've been there. I'm still kind of there, sometimes. I search for excuses (I'll have to buy new clothes,etc.). It's psychological. It's what we become accustomed to. It does, indeed, feel safer; after all, who is going to try to physically harm someone who could hospitalize them by falling onto them (that's how I coped with the treatment, and that always baffled me about bullies and people's mean comments, and was proof of their stupidity.) It also keeps us from enjoying other people, participating in all "life" offers. All of that, however, is depressing, and depression drives weight gain which causes more depression. Binary is right; explore the emotions, but keep at it. I hit 576 pounds by the end of a really, really bad marriage, and I lost 200 before beginning to use this tracker. I still have a way to go, but It. Is. Worth. The. Trouble. Asking those questions is important. So is embracing the new awesomeness you're becoming. Think of it as trading your old body in for a new one (and everything hurts less!) and, equally as important, trading old skill (survival) sets for newer, more fulfilling sets.0
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I understand what you mean and I think a lot of people feel that way. You get used to yourself a certain way, it's comfortable, and change is always scary. I agree that being overweight can also feel protective and safe. What you are feeling is normal. You will get through it.0
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I'm terrified of having a nice home to raise a family in and earning a degree in the field of my interest.
Oh, wait, no I'm not, because that makes no sense. :huh:
I'm not sure what this post is about...do you have a question we can help you with? Because no one can maker you WANT or be excited to be slim. That comes from within.
play nice now. it can be a legitimate fear.0 -
I grew up as overweight and, even though technically I have been "normal" for a decade, frankly I was safely on the chubby side.
Losing weight is not a difficult thing for me, I have always swiftly lost those extra 3 pounds I had gained here and there. Yet I never, ever went below those 130 pounds. Because I was afraid.
Because I am still afraid. My whole identity revolves around my weight. Changing that gives me a sense of losing myself. Of having to "get" a new personality.
I'm now right at that weight, at my lowest-to-date, and determined to shake that weird fear off and "go see" how life is in fit-land. I can always go back if i don't like it there... That's how I manage this fear. "It's just a trip" I say.
But these, as weird as they sound to some of you, are real fears some of us, that were never thin, face.0 -
I'm terrified of having a nice home to raise a family in and earning a degree in the field of my interest.
Oh, wait, no I'm not, because that makes no sense. :huh:
I'm not sure what this post is about... do you have a question we can help you with? Because no one can maker you WANT or be excited to be slim. That comes from within.0 -
To Along_Came_Mol: Spoken like someone who has never been truly fat! You wouldn't understand. Move along!0
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I'm not scared for the same reasons as you, but I am. I don't like attention being brought upon myself. When I become more physically fit and slimmer the one thing that I don't want is for people to come up to me and remark about my transformation. I don't want people saying "Wow! You've lost a lot of weight!" and stuff like that. It just makes me really self conscious. I'd rather they just not even say anything.
I'm losing this weight for myself, not to gain attention or to be more attractive (although I do like the Idea of looking better in a swimsuit or tight dresses). I am doing this for myself. I want to be more physically fit to be better at sports (Horseback riding and Skiing and Crew), not to be "Hot" or whatever. In addition, being more physically fit would boots my confidence greatly (and the added bonuses too, as far as looks go)
But Yes. I am scared too. In a way.
But my fear will not stop me from achieving my goals0 -
I'm terrified of having a nice home to raise a family in and earning a degree in the field of my interest.
Oh, wait, no I'm not, because that makes no sense. :huh:
I'm not sure what this post is about...do you have a question we can help you with? Because no one can maker you WANT or be excited to be slim. That comes from within.
Actually, you are incorrect. This is a legitimate fear. Some people put on weight to protect themselves emotionally.
OP, please see a therapist. You need to understand what is driving your need to retain your weight. Until you overcome that fear or learn to manage it, you will keep hitting the same roadblock in your weight loss journey.0 -
I relate to you 150%. I really don't know what else to say but that. It gave me great relief reading this post. That I wasn't the only one. I thought it was just me :-D So happy and relieved right now! I'm not morbidly obese, but for me, it's the fear of failure. So I do it, I lose the weight (which I've lost some of before) and I fail. So all that work is nothing. It's a fear. I am working on breaking down that mental road block. I know what I"m eating, I know what to be aware of, etc. You have to figure out what is your fear.0
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Sorry, I can't sympathize with this as I don't understand the reasoning at all.0
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It's not something I relate to personally, but I have seen other people go through it. And while this particular thing was never a coping mechanism for me, I had other coping mechanisms, so I can understand that.0
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Sure you might lose your identity but the identity you'll take on will be SO MUCH BETTER.
If you find out that you like being fat better than being skinny you can eat a couple hamburgers and BAM problem fixed.0 -
It's a little different for me-but I am also somewhat afraid of being "slim"
I just really don't know what I will look like. And most of my fear is from wondering if I will know when to stop.0 -
OP, I absolutely understand what you mean. This was a brave post to share with us, and I wish you all the best.0
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Try to approach it from a different angle. Remove the idea of being 'slim' from your thoughts and give yourself targets focused on improving your health.
I am sure (at least I hope) there are people in your life whom you care about, and focusing on being around longer for them is perhaps a better way for you to focus your energy. Losing weight will be a natural byproduct of leading a more active and healthy lifestyle - but not the goal.
We all naturally have a fear of the unknown, it is human nature. It is also perfectly reasonable that you dont really know what makes you nervous or anxious about changing your appearance, you just know this as something unfamiliar and potentially life-changing. That can be scary in-and-of-itself.
Part of you obviously wants to make a change, otherwise you wouldn't be here! Just pick something that is going to be motivating for you to work towards and focus on that. Make small sustainable changes and don't turn your eating or exercise habits 180degrees over night.
This can, and will, be done.0 -
As someone who was both abused as a young child, and someone who has always been obese, I understand 100%! Through lots of therapy, I KNOW that for me, the fat was a padded barrier between me and the "harshness" of what else was out in this big, bad world. I was obese enough that I could be pretty much invisible. I had friends, but I kept everyone at arms length literally. I always kept the focus on them and not me. Yes, I was being a wonderful friend, but was shortchanging myself. (no pun intended since I'm 4'8" LOL)
OP, your feelings are very valid, and I guess the thing that motivates me is the health benefits. I WAS insulin dependent, on BP meds, have multiple orthopedic issues,and of course good ol' depression. I've lost half the weight I need to get to a healthy BMI.I'm no longer on ANY diabetic meds, off the BP meds, and the orthopedic issues, although still with me, are not near as painful. Yes, it's hard sometimes because I really MISS that padding between me and the rest of the world! The trade off is a better quality, longer life. And Hun, YOU'RE WORTH IT!0 -
I've seen a lot of similar feelings from people with depression and eating disorders as well - they're afraid of recovery because they don't know who they are without their disorder. It's scary to lose a part of your identity, even if it's a part that you don't particularly like. Also, things like overeating or self-harm can both be coping and comfort mechanisms so it can also be scary to not know what you're going to do when you're stressed out or triggered in the future if you don't have the coping mechanism to fall back on. I'd recommend trying to find new things that can help take the place of what overeating is doing for you emotionally, try to find or explore other hobbies or interests so that you can always remember the REAL things that define you! You have an identity beyond your weight, whatever your weight may be. And there's no shame in going to a therapist about things like this, honestly I think everyone should see a therapist if they can afford it - it never hurts to have someone with experience help you sort through your thoughts, it doesn't mean you're "crazy"!0
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OP, you are definitely not alone in this fear. Not an hour ago I caught a glance of myself in the mirror. I was shocked to see how thin I looked (relatively). I glanced down at my fat stomach and was oddly reassured. (Side note – I have been overweight/ obese for the last 40 years). I was then freaked out by feeling “comforted” by still being fat. I am going to do some research and find some counseling. Losing 61 lbs so far has made a big difference in my health and quality of life. Neither one of us deserves having these types of thoughts threaten our weight loss journey. Good luck to you!0
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Try to approach it from a different angle. Remove the idea of being 'slim' from your thoughts and give yourself targets focused on improving your health.
Excellent and very thoughtful advise. <Slow clap>0 -
There are some really understanding & positive posts on this thread ... most ppl understand the fear of the unknown... I do.
OP...you have a lot of ppl here that can relate and that are 100% behind you, you're most definitely not alone in your thoughts!
Anyone not understanding simply hasn't been down the path others of us have, they haven't walked in our shoes... and that's OK, they have their own path to go down.
Thank you for your honesty in your post.... it's helping me better understand my fear & it sounds like others as well.:flowerforyou:
Cheers for you joining up, for opening up and helping others by doing it!:drinker:Check this article out:
Is Fear Making You Keep the Weight On?
By Katie Rickel, PhD
Practically every day in my practice as a weight-loss psychologist, I hear a patient lament, “I know so much about losing weight that I could write my own book about diet and exercise. So, why can’t I follow through and do what I know I should?” You may have wondered this about yourself. It should be easy – just eat less and move more, right?
Wrong. For the vast majority of those wanting to lose weight, a “knowledge deficit” is not the culprit for failed attempts. Instead, there is an underlying fear that can stall even the most well-crafted eating and exercise program, and these fears create subconscious motives to continue engaging in unhealthy behaviors. These are the fears I see most commonly:
Fear of Heightened Expectations
Joe long considered himself the “black sheep” in his family because his siblings always outshined him. Since childhood, his parents had very low expectations for him because he never took much initiative – in his career, in relationships, or in his self-care. Joe’s most common response to their nagging was typically, “Well, I’m too heavy to do that," or “That’s not possible for a fat guy like me.”
Sadly, many overweight individuals manage to convince themselves (and convince people around them) that their weight “disqualifies” them from pursuing certain goals. They may hesitate to advance their careers, to seek out romantic relationships, or to engage in physically-demanding activities. Folks may lack the confidence that they could be successful in these endeavors. Thus, losing their excess weight creates a sense of fear and hesitancy and becomes a justification for not even trying.
Fear of Attractiveness
Heather was sexually abused as a teenager and the experience left her feeling uneasy in situations where she received even playful sexual attention from men. Although she did not consciously harbor a desire to make herself unattractive, she did notice that she was approached much less frequently as she gained weight. Over time, she grew accustomed to this “protection” that her weight afforded her.Although cultural ideals about body types are constantly shifting, our society today tends to equate a trim figure with sexuality. Obese individuals may be viewed as lacking in sexual appeal, and this prejudice may actually be adaptive for overweight people who would rather not be viewed as sexual beings. Thus, there is often significant anxiety around losing weight and subsequently attracting more sexual attention. People may lack confidence that they could successfully ward off unwanted advances.
Fear of Losing One’s Identity
Tony, or “Tubby T” as his friends called him, was known for his big personality. He always made jokes about his weight before others could, and Tony defined himself – in large part – by the decadent, food-laden events that he hosted. However, he was beginning to develop some weight-related health concerns and struggled with adopting a healthier lifestyle. He couldn’t imagine not being the “big guy” or changing the way he socialized.
When one’s identity has been shaped by having a literally large presence, the prospect of becoming smaller through weight loss can feel unfamiliar and uncomfortable. Similarly, when an individual’s social environment centers around overeating, there is potential for a great loss if more moderate and structured eating behaviors are adopted. For Tony, losing weight implies that he might lose a piece of what makes him uniquely “Tony.” Even with the threat of weight-related health problems, losing weight might feel like losing his identity.
For some, the desire to lose weight is simple and uncomplicated. For others, losing weight carries inherent risk – risks some might not be willing to take. However, oftentimes, the perception of these risks is simply a lack of confidence. At any weight, Joe could make whatever lifestyle choices he deems best for him; Heather could be as selective as she wishes about getting into romantic relationships; and Tony could remain a social butterfly. The work lies in disentangling the role weight actually plays from the power that we so easily give it.
Edited to include- http://www.doctoroz.com/blog/katie-rickel-phd/fear-making-you-keep-weight0 -
OP, I think your points are very valid. Change is scary for everybody. You have gotten some good advice here. I think things will begin to improve for you if you can get to a point where staying the same is scarier than changing. I have gotten to that point because the medical problems I've begun to develop are scarier than wondering what my life will be like if I'm no longer fat. Only you will know when you've reached the tipping point. Others have suggested that you see a therapist, and I echo that too. Good luck!0
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I feel the same way. I am scared of succeeding because then I will like a failure for not doing it sooner. I am afraid of the loose skin I KNOW I will have. I am scared people will start talking to me, people who would not before because then I will know it is ONLY because of how I look. I am scared of people treating me better because I will know I was treated badly before because of my weight.
Losing weight is pushing your mind as well as your body. People stay overweight because it is comfortable. No, not comfortable trying to find clothes that fit or people saying rude things...but comfortable in that it is easier to stay overweight than work hard to lose it. Because when you start to do that, you are admitting to yourself and others that you got yourself into a situation that was not healthy. You are admitting you were wrong and no one likes to do that.
You have to focus on other things. Do not focus on the numbers or the body type you will have. Focus on what you will be able to do that your weight is holding you back on now. Focus on little things....being able to walk further and breathe easier. Being able to play with your kids (if you have them). Being able to do the things in life you deserve.0
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