Are you natty?

The amount of people that are saying steroids are so bad for you yet go out drinking and smoking is absolutely unreal.

Whilst I would agree in principle, that argument is based on something being negative and comparing it to other negative things, to show it in a less negative light.
So while what you say makes sense, just because people think steroids are bad, but do other bad things, that doesn't necessarily make steroids good, if you get what I am saying?

I would also say that it generally takes a lot longer to have side effects from drinking and smoking, and if someone uninformed gets drunk, they'll be back to normal pretty quickly, whereas an uninformed steroid user, who doesn't think about other parts of their cycle and PCT may not be so lucky.

Just for info, in the UK, using and importing steroids for personal use is not illegal, it's only selling them that is. However most of the MFP user base is US based, where it is illegal.

I've been diagnosed with hypogonadism and am on testosterone replacement therapy. Endo's couldn't tell me why, just stopped working properly when I was 28. Now I'm back at normal levels and feel farkin' brilliant in comparison. Before I was on TRT, I would get my 8-9 hours of sleep a night and wake up feeling like *kitten*! So anyway, I don't call myself natty but not enhanced either, some sort of grey area I'd say. Last blood tests showed my Total T at 13 after 2 weeks and recommended is 11-25. (I think that is nmol)

It's for this reason that I think people should get blood tests if the cals in vs out is not happening as it should. Something can be going on that you don't know about. Before I was diagnosed, I was totalling strugging with recovery and strength increases squatting about 125kg at 75kg BW at the time. Since starting, I've had much better recovery and have had steady strength and bw increases up to 83kg now.

moral: get your **** checked

The amount of people that are saying steroids are so bad for you yet go out drinking and smoking is absolutely unreal.

Whilst I would agree in principle, that argument is based on something being negative and comparing it to other negative things, to show it in a less negative light.
So while what you say makes sense, just because people think steroids are bad, but do other bad things, that doesn't necessarily make steroids good, if you get what I am saying?

I would also say that it generally takes a lot longer to have side effects from drinking and smoking, and if someone uninformed gets drunk, they'll be back to normal pretty quickly, whereas an uninformed steroid user, who doesn't think about other parts of their cycle and PCT may not be so lucky.

Just for info, in the UK, using and importing steroids for personal use is not illegal, it's only selling them that is. However most of the MFP user base is US based, where it is illegal.

I definitely agree with you here, steroids of course have a load of side effects but if anyone wishes to use them and thinks the positives outweigh the negatives then of course they should go for it. Yeah the worst thing about the UK is you have to go out the country to get them which makes no sense haha!

am i still natty i take a flinstone chewable everyday!

I'd use in a heartbeat if the side effects didn't scare me. I am planning to have my natural test levels run to see where I stand.

I have been on and off of TRT for a couple of yrs. Initially, I probably shouldn't have been prescribed Test C but I believe the Dr and clinic itself is a little liberal. My test levels were 520 ng/dl and the normal range for their testing is 348-1097 so I fall WNL. The dr said I would probably feel better if my test levels were at least 750, so he prescribed weekly shots. I did the weekly shots, got blood test done every 8 weeks or so. When levels reached close 1100, I would cycle off. I did notice when on, I got stronger but body compensation didn't change too much.
My wife and I have been trying on and off to have a baby. When on test C I had zero sperm. When I went off for 8 weeks, my sperm count went back to normal. In addition I had my test levels checked after I was off for 8 weeks and my test level was 550 and estrogen was 32 (28-76).

I have been off now for over 6 months I haven't noticed any negative side-effects except for my lifts went down but now starting to come back up. I think I will just stay off.
Cliffs.
Initial test levels 520 but still prescribed weekly shots
Got stronger on test but not that much of a change in body comp.
Eliminated sperm count while on but now back to normal
Will probably just stay off

Why would anyone want to "get big and ripped" girls do not think its sexy.. just saying.. lol.. Can't you just be healthy and strong???

attractive and fashionable
NOPE

Exactly. I didn't know English was a dead language already.
But did appreciate the guy who explained this new redefinition of an existing word.

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