Different way of lifting
annebaum41912
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So I recently found a new trainer. I'm giving him a shot because it's $10 cheaper a session. But I am not sure if I like his method. I have never heard of it before and wondered if anyone else ever had.
He makes you do 100 reps. If you get to 50 reps without pausing or stopping the weight goes up the next time. But even if you stop you still have to get to 100, no matter how many breaks you take.
Has anyone ever tried this? Is it effective or just a waste of time?
He makes you do 100 reps. If you get to 50 reps without pausing or stopping the weight goes up the next time. But even if you stop you still have to get to 100, no matter how many breaks you take.
Has anyone ever tried this? Is it effective or just a waste of time?
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i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.0 -
100 reps is fine if you're wanting to burn off some fat and not really do much for muscle development.0
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i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.
yea i've been confused too but didn't know if it was something i wasn't aware of. i don't think it's possible to do the 100 unbroken, but he makes me get 100 in total of each exercise. and if i hit 50 without stopping the weight goes up the next time. it's "normal" exercises for lack of a better word. i was willing to give it a shot for the money savings but if it's not going to do what "normal" lifting does it's just a waste of money i guess0 -
oddly enough he's a competitive body builder... he swears it works. i don't know if i want to take the time to find out if no one else has ever heard of this method0
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let's try to narrow down the meaning of the phrase "it works". works for what, exactly? it might work for something. if you're trying to get a pump, i bet it's damned effective. but that's primarily a bodybuilding thing, not a building strength or preserving muscle thing.
what does he believe it works for and does his belief align with your personal goals?0 -
Lol he gots you doing the Grimm Repper workout.0
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let's try to narrow down the meaning of the phrase "it works". works for what, exactly? it might work for something. if you're trying to get a pump, i bet it's damned effective. but that's primarily a bodybuilding thing, not a building strength or preserving muscle thing.
what does he believe it works for and does his belief align with your personal goals?
i don't know what you mean by "get a pump". he knows i want to get fit and gain muscle. he says this will achieve that. i'm not arguing for him. i legitimately want to know if ANYONE has ever come across this, as i have never heard of it.
like i said. don't want to waste time if this will not achieve my goals. saving $10 means nothing if i won't do that.0 -
I don't think that's worth a $10 dollar savings. It sort of sounds like a body pump class and you can do those as an included cost of the gym membership.
Getting a pump just means that your muscles temporarily puff up a little after lifting (and look bigger for a little while).0 -
Spend the extra $10.0
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I've read a lot on weight lifting (not an expert at all) and I can't comprehend why 100 reps of anything would be good.
Crossfit? It will help with endurance on whatever lifts you're doing?0 -
I don't think that's worth a $10 dollar savings. It sort of sounds like a body pump class and you can do those as an included cost of the gym membership.
Getting a pump just means that your muscles temporarily puff up a little after lifting (and look bigger for a little while).
yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.
i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.0 -
I don't think that's worth a $10 dollar savings. It sort of sounds like a body pump class and you can do those as an included cost of the gym membership.
Getting a pump just means that your muscles temporarily puff up a little after lifting (and look bigger for a little while).
yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.
i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.
Yeah, I guess you're right. They don't do 100 reps at a time. I just remember the instructor saying that we did 500 reps or something like that (but he meant of everything total). I just took the class about 3 times or so.0 -
i read something about lifting 10x10 a while ago, though i understood it more as an interval workout...
100 reps sounds to me like you're spending an awful lot of time on each lift.
it could be seen as some funky cross between cardio and lifting, but for me those are two separate things...
eta: 100 reps vs say 50 (5x5 plus generous warmup) - you spend twice the time at a $10 an hour savings - how much less are you actually spending?0 -
yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.
i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.
do that plus ask him to explain the what's and why's behind his training style. if it makes sense to you and you are satisfied with his answers AND you actually enjoy his style, then stick with him for a few months and see how it goes.
The truth is that there are many ways to do this so hell, for all i know his way might be awesome, especially if you're more interested in building muscle instead of strength. but it would bore the crap out of me and if i won't stick with it i might as well not start it. YMMV0 -
Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 reps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8 0 -
It is very time consuming. I'm finishing a high volume workout. 100's is not something I want to attempt after what I've done these 4 weeks. It's not a bad thing, but if you don't know why you're doing it, why do it?
Eta: I love high volume, btw. Maybe give it a chance and if you don't like it, complain. There's other high volume workouts if this one is too much. Or switch to strength training.0 -
Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 repshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8
he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.
but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.
so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.0 -
Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 repshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8
he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.
but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.
so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.
Thank you for bringing some context to this. Just because X person does something, doesn't mean it is appropriate for everyone.
It really depends on where you are now, what your goals are and what you are willing to sacrifice to get there.0 -
Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 repshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8
he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.
but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.
so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.
Her trainer isn't making her do 100 reps in a row, he's making her do 100 total reps with weights she cant do more than 50 consecutive reps with.0 -
It sounds like GVT done wrong.0
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It just seems that for a beginner to be doing that many reps it could run the risk of some overuse injuries. Just something to think about.0
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That seems kinda brutal and more cardio geared than anything else.0
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Spend the extra $10.
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Uhm, it may work for muscle endurance? But it really sounds like a glorified way to hurt yourself. It's worth the $10 extra for a competent one.0
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Umm it sounds similar to a method employed by Chad Waterbury.
For each excericse you have a rep goal for each excercise. For a given weight you will also have a goal for your first set.
Example: Bench Press
Rep Goal: 40 Reps
First Set Goal: 100 lbs for 8 reps
THen you just have to get 40 reps in, regardless of the number of sets it takes you. As long as you hit 100 for 8 on your first set you increase the weight. Sample might look like
Set 1: 100x8
Set 2: 100x7
Set 3: 100x7
Set 4: 100x6
Set 5: 100x6
Set 6: 100x6
Set 7: 100x1
Total Reps 40: Hit your first set goal so you increase the weight.
I was never a fan of the style, but if your first set goal is 50 that seems pretty ludicrous.0 -
ummmm.......
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i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.
yea i've been confused too but didn't know if it was something i wasn't aware of. i don't think it's possible to do the 100 unbroken, but he makes me get 100 in total of each exercise. and if i hit 50 without stopping the weight goes up the next time. it's "normal" exercises for lack of a better word. i was willing to give it a shot for the money savings but if it's not going to do what "normal" lifting does it's just a waste of money i guess
So what do you mean by 'normal' exercises?
Squats? Bench? Bicep curls?0 -
ummmm.......
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i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.
yea i've been confused too but didn't know if it was something i wasn't aware of. i don't think it's possible to do the 100 unbroken, but he makes me get 100 in total of each exercise. and if i hit 50 without stopping the weight goes up the next time. it's "normal" exercises for lack of a better word. i was willing to give it a shot for the money savings but if it's not going to do what "normal" lifting does it's just a waste of money i guess
So what do you mean by 'normal' exercises?
Squats? Bench? Bicep curls?
I was wondering about that also.0 -
Reps don't burn fat. No exercise does. It burns calories. This many reps done straight are more for muscular endurance. If broken up to say 10 sets of 10 reps, then it could be used as volume training if the weight is heavy enough to only complete 10 reps in a set.100 reps is fine if you're wanting to burn off some fat and not really do much for muscle development.
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Lol, that makes sense now. Probably enhanced too, so broscience is probably strong with this one.oddly enough he's a competitive body builder... he swears it works. i don't know if i want to take the time to find out if no one else has ever heard of this method
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