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Different way of lifting

Posts: 87 Member
edited February 3 in Fitness and Exercise
So I recently found a new trainer. I'm giving him a shot because it's $10 cheaper a session. But I am not sure if I like his method. I have never heard of it before and wondered if anyone else ever had.

He makes you do 100 reps. If you get to 50 reps without pausing or stopping the weight goes up the next time. But even if you stop you still have to get to 100, no matter how many breaks you take.

Has anyone ever tried this? Is it effective or just a waste of time?

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  • Posts: 61,406 Member
    ummmm.......

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    i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.
  • Posts: 741 Member
    100 reps is fine if you're wanting to burn off some fat and not really do much for muscle development.
  • Posts: 39,744 Member
    BAH.
  • Posts: 87 Member
    ummmm.......

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    i got nothin. 100 reps? of what? and not 10 sets of 10, but 100 reps unbroken? what exercises did you do with what amount of weight during your last session? i'm 99.99999999999999999987% sure that i'm calling bullshurlit on this style of "lifting" but i'd like to get a few more details before i weigh in.

    yea i've been confused too but didn't know if it was something i wasn't aware of. i don't think it's possible to do the 100 unbroken, but he makes me get 100 in total of each exercise. and if i hit 50 without stopping the weight goes up the next time. it's "normal" exercises for lack of a better word. i was willing to give it a shot for the money savings but if it's not going to do what "normal" lifting does it's just a waste of money i guess
  • Posts: 87 Member
    oddly enough he's a competitive body builder... he swears it works. i don't know if i want to take the time to find out if no one else has ever heard of this method
  • Posts: 61,406 Member
    let's try to narrow down the meaning of the phrase "it works". works for what, exactly? it might work for something. if you're trying to get a pump, i bet it's damned effective. but that's primarily a bodybuilding thing, not a building strength or preserving muscle thing.

    what does he believe it works for and does his belief align with your personal goals?
  • Posts: 2,747 Member
    Lol he gots you doing the Grimm Repper workout.
  • Posts: 87 Member
    let's try to narrow down the meaning of the phrase "it works". works for what, exactly? it might work for something. if you're trying to get a pump, i bet it's damned effective. but that's primarily a bodybuilding thing, not a building strength or preserving muscle thing.

    what does he believe it works for and does his belief align with your personal goals?

    i don't know what you mean by "get a pump". he knows i want to get fit and gain muscle. he says this will achieve that. i'm not arguing for him. i legitimately want to know if ANYONE has ever come across this, as i have never heard of it.

    like i said. don't want to waste time if this will not achieve my goals. saving $10 means nothing if i won't do that.
  • Posts: 8,927 Member
    I don't think that's worth a $10 dollar savings. It sort of sounds like a body pump class and you can do those as an included cost of the gym membership.

    Getting a pump just means that your muscles temporarily puff up a little after lifting (and look bigger for a little while).
  • Posts: 8,281 Member
    Spend the extra $10.
  • Posts: 567 Member
    I've read a lot on weight lifting (not an expert at all) and I can't comprehend why 100 reps of anything would be good.

    Crossfit? It will help with endurance on whatever lifts you're doing?
  • Posts: 87 Member
    I don't think that's worth a $10 dollar savings. It sort of sounds like a body pump class and you can do those as an included cost of the gym membership.

    Getting a pump just means that your muscles temporarily puff up a little after lifting (and look bigger for a little while).

    yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.

    i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.
  • Posts: 8,927 Member

    yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.

    i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.

    Yeah, I guess you're right. They don't do 100 reps at a time. I just remember the instructor saying that we did 500 reps or something like that (but he meant of everything total). I just took the class about 3 times or so.
  • Posts: 1,293 Member
    i read something about lifting 10x10 a while ago, though i understood it more as an interval workout...
    100 reps sounds to me like you're spending an awful lot of time on each lift.
    it could be seen as some funky cross between cardio and lifting, but for me those are two separate things...

    eta: 100 reps vs say 50 (5x5 plus generous warmup) - you spend twice the time at a $10 an hour savings - how much less are you actually spending?
  • Posts: 61,406 Member
    yea my gym has classes like that, not that we've ever done 100 reps in them.

    i guess i'll ask him if he'd consider training me the way i want to, and if he says no i'll stop seeing him.

    do that plus ask him to explain the what's and why's behind his training style. if it makes sense to you and you are satisfied with his answers AND you actually enjoy his style, then stick with him for a few months and see how it goes.

    The truth is that there are many ways to do this so hell, for all i know his way might be awesome, especially if you're more interested in building muscle instead of strength. but it would bore the crap out of me and if i won't stick with it i might as well not start it. YMMV
  • Posts: 871 Member
    Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 reps

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8
  • Posts: 2,747 Member
    It is very time consuming. I'm finishing a high volume workout. 100's is not something I want to attempt after what I've done these 4 weeks. It's not a bad thing, but if you don't know why you're doing it, why do it?

    Eta: I love high volume, btw. Maybe give it a chance and if you don't like it, complain. There's other high volume workouts if this one is too much. Or switch to strength training.
  • Posts: 61,406 Member
    Mike Rashid does something similar and he's a natural competitive bodybuilder. Watch him do 225lbs on bench press for 210 reps

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwXUQiIw-8

    he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.

    but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.

    so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.
  • Posts: 567 Member

    he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.

    but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.

    so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.

    Thank you for bringing some context to this. Just because X person does something, doesn't mean it is appropriate for everyone.

    It really depends on where you are now, what your goals are and what you are willing to sacrifice to get there.
  • Posts: 871 Member

    he's doing rest-pause in groups 3-5 or so, not 50-100 unbroken reps. and it took him over half hour. it was basically his whole workout. and he's advanced (and most likely enhanced), not a beginner.

    but yeah, if the OP is more interested in developing bodybuilder type muscles, she's going to be doing a lot of sets and reps so hey, for all i know 100 reps in a row might be awesomesauce. i split a lot of reps over lots of sets and a variety of different exercises but hey, to each their own. what threw me off most was that most people with questions on MFP do not have BB goals. they are usually more interested in LBM retention and strength gains.

    so i'll say it again, if she gets a decent explanation from her trainer, try it and see.

    Her trainer isn't making her do 100 reps in a row, he's making her do 100 total reps with weights she cant do more than 50 consecutive reps with.
  • Posts: 34,971 Member
    It sounds like GVT done wrong.
  • Posts: 8,927 Member
    It just seems that for a beginner to be doing that many reps it could run the risk of some overuse injuries. Just something to think about.
  • That seems kinda brutal and more cardio geared than anything else.
  • Posts: 11,068 Member
    Spend the extra $10.

    ^^ That.
  • Posts: 1,060 Member
    Uhm, it may work for muscle endurance? But it really sounds like a glorified way to hurt yourself. It's worth the $10 extra for a competent one.
  • Posts: 4,966 Member
    Umm it sounds similar to a method employed by Chad Waterbury.

    For each excericse you have a rep goal for each excercise. For a given weight you will also have a goal for your first set.

    Example: Bench Press

    Rep Goal: 40 Reps

    First Set Goal: 100 lbs for 8 reps

    THen you just have to get 40 reps in, regardless of the number of sets it takes you. As long as you hit 100 for 8 on your first set you increase the weight. Sample might look like

    Set 1: 100x8
    Set 2: 100x7
    Set 3: 100x7
    Set 4: 100x6
    Set 5: 100x6
    Set 6: 100x6
    Set 7: 100x1

    Total Reps 40: Hit your first set goal so you increase the weight.

    I was never a fan of the style, but if your first set goal is 50 that seems pretty ludicrous.
  • Posts: 12,209 Member

    yea i've been confused too but didn't know if it was something i wasn't aware of. i don't think it's possible to do the 100 unbroken, but he makes me get 100 in total of each exercise. and if i hit 50 without stopping the weight goes up the next time. it's "normal" exercises for lack of a better word. i was willing to give it a shot for the money savings but if it's not going to do what "normal" lifting does it's just a waste of money i guess

    So what do you mean by 'normal' exercises?

    Squats? Bench? Bicep curls?
  • Posts: 8,927 Member

    So what do you mean by 'normal' exercises?

    Squats? Bench? Bicep curls?

    I was wondering about that also.
  • Posts: 49,126 Member
    100 reps is fine if you're wanting to burn off some fat and not really do much for muscle development.
    Reps don't burn fat. No exercise does. It burns calories. This many reps done straight are more for muscular endurance. If broken up to say 10 sets of 10 reps, then it could be used as volume training if the weight is heavy enough to only complete 10 reps in a set.

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  • Posts: 49,126 Member
    oddly enough he's a competitive body builder... he swears it works. i don't know if i want to take the time to find out if no one else has ever heard of this method
    Lol, that makes sense now. Probably enhanced too, so broscience is probably strong with this one.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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