Vegan Anyone?

I appreciate your post. I do enjoy nuts and seeds like most vegans, but there is only so much you can eat in a sitting, and so many hours in a day. (I try not to eat too late.) I didn't worry about my intake of calories before I was on MFP, and you're right.... maybe I shouldn't care about that so much. My weight gain was due to my being injured in a motorcycle wreck, stress, and convenience foods. Regardless, I'm on top of it now. I appreciate people with something POSITIVE to contribute... so thanks.

Weight gain is caused by a calorie surplus regardless of contributing factors (sorry to hear of your troubles) But it does seem that you are ignoring advice based upon the fact you are looking for answers you want.

Put the seeds in your shakes, blend foods to condense the volume.

So many hours in a day? Your kidding right? handful of nuts 600-900cals boom!

People are being positive by trying to help you.

Not to mention pizza (either sauceless or with soy cheese), soy ice creams, hummus with pita chips, and so much more...even tofu is pretty calorie dense and I eat that pretty often raw with just some soy sauce or memmi.

jayjay12345654321

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. Your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

BrownSuga245

I am trying really hard to see the positive in what everyone has to say. I don't understand why you are attempting to rip apart every comment and criticize me. That is not helpful at all. What's the point of saying anything if you will disagree with everything and everyone. I thanked someone for recommending a book. I didn't say they were correct and everyone else was wrong. Whatever. I thought this would be a good forum to meet others who are Vegans and could relate. I don't wish to debate with anyone. I have better things to do.

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. It your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

Yep..

Hitting even my minimum calories without stepping outside of vegan into vegetarian is hard for me, too. I really don't want to include butters, cheese and other dairy, but on occasion when I find myself incredibly low in numbers (400-500 range), I'll have cottage cheese

I am trying really hard to see the positive in what everyone has to say. I don't understand why you are attempting to rip apart every comment and criticize me. That is not helpful at all. What's the point of saying anything if you will disagree with everything and everyone. I thanked someone for recommending a book. I didn't say they were correct and everyone else was wrong. Whatever. I thought this would be a good forum to meet others who are Vegans and could relate. I don't wish to debate with anyone. I have better things to do.

There are vegan groups but they'll tell you the same things we've said. In fact, we've tried to point out you know what to eat - you just need to stop being so restrictive so you can meet your goals.

But...best of luck OP. Hope you figure it out

I am trying really hard to see the positive in what everyone has to say. I don't understand why you are attempting to rip apart every comment and criticize me. That is not helpful at all. What's the point of saying anything if you will disagree with everything and everyone. I thanked someone for recommending a book. I didn't say they were correct and everyone else was wrong. Whatever. I thought this would be a good forum to meet others who are Vegans and could relate. I don't wish to debate with anyone. I have better things to do.

Did post a plant based group for you and most people have been trying to be helpful.

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. It your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

Yep..

Hitting even my minimum calories without stepping outside of vegan into vegetarian is hard for me, too. I really don't want to include butters, cheese and other dairy, but on occasion when I find myself incredibly low in numbers (400-500 range), I'll have cottage cheese

Wait wait. You (directed to JayJay) first say you eat cottage cheese to hit your #s then come back with a death in the family. I'm confused. One moment it is a rather regular go to and then it was a 2x thing because of a circumstance. Ummmm.....

OP basic summary of thread.

You ask for help, describing your problems.

People respond with healthy and sustainable answers (mostly)

You choose to ignore said help besides that given by the person exhibiting the exact same dangerous behavior as you.

People disagree with unhealthy habits and you reply saying they are snarky and not positive.

Also a few funny gifs to keep it light.

Welcome to the forums.

jayjay12345654321

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. It your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

Yep..

Hitting even my minimum calories without stepping outside of vegan into vegetarian is hard for me, too. I really don't want to include butters, cheese and other dairy, but on occasion when I find myself incredibly low in numbers (400-500 range), I'll have cottage cheese

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. It your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

Yep..

Hitting even my minimum calories without stepping outside of vegan into vegetarian is hard for me, too. I really don't want to include butters, cheese and other dairy, but on occasion when I find myself incredibly low in numbers (400-500 range), I'll have cottage cheese

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

There's a difference between eating it twice and having it occasionally. If you only ate it twice due to a circumstance rather than the need to meet a calorie goal...totally different and your wording reflected it was more than just a one/two time thing

trogalicious

Is there anything else you need from me?

yes. for one, you could lighten up. If you're gonna claim to be a vegan, don't get upset when people try to understand why you're against cooking with vegetable oil.. but hey, cottage cheese is okay.

for another, you shouldn't be sitting here saying it's all gravy to just eat 1000 calories or so.. vegan or not. That's not healthy, regardless which way you look at it.

take a step back, you gave bad advice.. you were questioned on the advice you gave.. that didn't make sense... and now you're all butthurt and calling cyber bullying?

I'd really recommend a few days away from the computer.. or at least away from the forums.

and for a whole bunch of people that mean so little to you, you sure seem to take a lot of what we say personally...

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

jayjay12345654321

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

Blissfully ignored now.

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

Blissfully ignored now.

Seriously? Wow. Just wow.

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

So, you resort to dairy, but not cooking food?

Correct.

Ummm......vegans aren't supposed to eat dairy

It's not raw either.

Correct again. But it was after midnight and the fridge was nearly empty, so I ate some of the children's cottage cheese. Twice, in fact. The day he died, and the day of his funeral. Both days I failed to eat enough during the day and was stuck with what I had to choose from.

Um what? That sounds terrible and sorry for your loss if you are being sincere but how was anyone meant to know that. It your previous reply's are contradictory and make no sense even with this to put it into context.

Yep..

Hitting even my minimum calories without stepping outside of vegan into vegetarian is hard for me, too. I really don't want to include butters, cheese and other dairy, but on occasion when I find myself incredibly low in numbers (400-500 range), I'll have cottage cheese

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

No-one is asking or expecting you to discuss it. Your initial post was misleading. Simple as that.

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

Blissfully ignored now.

And yet you wrote that, interesting!...they say ignorance is bliss, so I imagine you to be full of bliss.

determinedbutlazy

You're vegan and want more calories? Eat more natural vegetable fats like olive oil, nuts, avocado etc. A handful of nuts can come to about 600 calories.
I used to eat a vegan diet and by using soy margarine, flour and vegetable stock I made a pretty good creamy calorie dense pasta sauce which was great with asparagus, pasta, green beans and toasted almonds.
There's plenty of calorie dense vegan foods, otherwise there would be no overweight vegans.

Make toasted bruschetta with herbs and tomatoes and olive oil... Drizzle salads with a garlic or chilli infused oil and top with avocado... There's so many options.

fatfudgery

I'm a raw vegan. I don't cook food.

I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.

OP: a couple more suggestions: nutritional yeast and hemp seed (they are complete proteins). Nutritional yeast is great on popcorn. Spray the popcorn with oil and sprinkle with it. It is also usually fortified with B12.

DavPul

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

Blissfully ignored now.

And yet you wrote that, interesting!...they say ignorance is bliss, so I imagine you to be full of bliss.

Full of bliss. And cottage cheese.

EvgeniZyntx

I didn't think I need to put my personal loss out there to justify my actions to people who mean nothing to me. Therefore, the "occasion" I chose not to specify was my father's passing last month. At that time, I was not concerned about vegan, about cyber bullies, about judgmental strangers, about weight, or about anything other than the fact that both days all I could do was nibble because I had no appetite. Is there anything else you need from me? Because what I do in my life is far more important to you than you are to me.

I am sure everybody is sorry for your personal loss, nobody had issue with that. It was the fact that you were the one who put dairy out there and also some very unhealthy advice about calorie intake.

Also you brought up the loss before anyone else did and that was your prerogative, if you didn't want it discussed why mention it in the first place as it had no relevance to OP situation.

Blissfully ignored now.

And yet you wrote that, interesting!...they say ignorance is bliss, so I imagine you to be full of bliss.

Full of bliss. And cottage cheese.

Coffee, coffee everywhere.

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OP. Nuts. There is absolutely no reason to undereat if you include nuts and avocados and other calorie dense foods in your diet - 100 g of nuts exceeds 500 calories.

Of course, eat too many and there are side effects. Not rainbows.

markandel

Hi - do you add fruit on the food counter? Apples etc add a lot of sugar-but it is natural, right? Other weight loss groups don't and tell you to eat as much fruit and vegetables as you want. Opinions please