Please!!! I'm getting so fed up
DizzyLinds
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I've been on here a couple of years now and all that's happened is weight gain with now an increase in measurements.. I've been told to do 5x5, use tdee and generally up calories from having spent years doing excess cardio and eating minimal food.
Background, PE Teacher (mixture of being on feet and t desk), lifting heavy, some cardio in spin, intervals, jogging etc. 29 years, 4ft 11 and weight has crept up to 58kg from about 53-54. Waist used to be 27.4 now 29. My diary is open. I use my hrm to track collides burn and generally I know it's around 300 in a typical session.
Recently I've returned from my holiday and am feeling heavier and clearly I know why...from alcohol and all inclusive. Even on normal weeks I'm eating ok, drink at weekend and log but no loss, I even stopped drinking for 5 weeks with no loss or change. I love food and do enjoy treats and wonder surely that giving up a treat that fits into my daily allowance is what I need to do. You can see from my diary how I log and weigh my food.
Just need some support.
Background, PE Teacher (mixture of being on feet and t desk), lifting heavy, some cardio in spin, intervals, jogging etc. 29 years, 4ft 11 and weight has crept up to 58kg from about 53-54. Waist used to be 27.4 now 29. My diary is open. I use my hrm to track collides burn and generally I know it's around 300 in a typical session.
Recently I've returned from my holiday and am feeling heavier and clearly I know why...from alcohol and all inclusive. Even on normal weeks I'm eating ok, drink at weekend and log but no loss, I even stopped drinking for 5 weeks with no loss or change. I love food and do enjoy treats and wonder surely that giving up a treat that fits into my daily allowance is what I need to do. You can see from my diary how I log and weigh my food.
Just need some support.
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How long ago did you increase calories? This takes time - I went years with overexercising and too little calorie intake. You will see a gain in weight initially as you get things back on track.
Also, if you just got back from a holiday, you will see an increase but remember it takes 3500 calories EXTRA to produce a pound of fat.0 -
I have been at this a while as well, I am pretty good with logging. There may have been a week or so where I was not logging but that was because of a medical issue. That is over and I pretty much log all that time. I do have "bad" days where I go over my calorie alotment, but I get back on board in no time.
I understand gaining as I have gained as well, despite running three times a week and playing tennis one time a week. I work out 4 days and I still seem to be going up not down. I know my frame builds muscle but I don't want to use that as an excuse, I want the weight off! I used to be in the 150's so I know I can get back there.
I am trying to focus more on how I look vs. what the scale says, because if I focus on that I will loose my ever loving mind!
Don't give up and don't get frustrated. Our bodies are complex machines and what we sometjimes thing should work does not so we have to keep switching things up to see what works best for us, but you know all of this
Have you thought about cutting back on the weights and maybe doing more cardio running only? Just curious as to whether
this would have an impact. Lift only once or twice a week for maybe 30 minutes and have most of your program consist of cardio? Since you are a PE teacher, have you thought of getting together with a personal trainer, show them your consistent routine to see if based on your BMI (which I think is bull) and your LBM, what they think might be the best for you to do to loose weight?
These were suggestoins given to me as well. Best of luck and keep going, the weight loss will come.0 -
Same thing happend to me, got back from Vegas about half a stone heavier! It seriously messes with you, you dont know when to eat or sleep and the food out there is really bad for you!
Anyways, so whern you say 5x5 are you talking weight lifting? I would go lighter and higher reps if you are, keep the heav weights for once a week training - rest/puase training or something.
Hope you enjoyed your holiday, personly I think your looking good for it!0 -
I'm doing 5x5 on alternate days, then on days that I don't do that I rest or do cardio. I said about not lifting heavy but so many people keep saying I should continue with it.
I don't look as good and as slim as I used to and I'm disliking my shape and how my stomach is now fatter and also my hips and bum. It's really depressing too that I can't fit into my old clothes.
I've upped calories since 2011 so it's nearly two years. I was seeing a PT who got me doing long cardio and lighter rep training but I really can't afford this now as I've got a mortgage. See the thing is if I'm exercising and eating at some deficit surely I shouldn't be consuming 3500calories to gain fat...even if some days are higher and some lower?0 -
Hey Dizzy,
I looked over your diary...
Back to 9/10/13
Protein looks decent...I would say try to bump that up some though.
Carbs might could go up a little.....definitely if you are doing some good daily exercise.
I SEE NO VEGGIES.....green leafy veggies.
I would do weights, and I would lift what you can to hit between 6 - 8 reps.0 -
When I first started lifting I definitely gained and felt bigger for almost two months. I saw no movement on the scale for weeks and not change in my measurements. Then all of a sudden, two months later I dropped 6 lbs in 4 weeks. I eat at a very minimal deficit, so there is no way I should have dropped that much, but I did and it has stayed off. So, just keep at it. Make sure that you are measuring and weighing everything that you eat, and that you aren't over estimating your calorie burn. Keep in mind that your HRM isn't going to be accurate on calorie burn for a weight training session, so don't eat all of those calories back. It'll come off you just have to stick with it.
Also, I am one of those people that had to cut out all sweets. I was eating a cookie every day for a snack because it fit in my macros and my calories, but unfortunately it really did hinder my progress. So, I stopped eating them and can feel a difference in my energy level and obviously my weight has gone down, my stomach flattened out. I'm not saying that you will have the same experience (i am actually insulin resistance which is why it helped me so much), but try different things. Unfortunately there isn't a set road to weight loss, everyone is different. Perhaps try to cut out the goodies for a couple of weeks and see how you feel and if you notice results. If you don't, put them back in and try something else. Its all about trial and error when figuring out how your body reacts to weightloss efforts. Good luck, friend me if you'd like support0 -
Also, I am one of those people that had to cut out all sweets. I was eating a cookie every day for a snack because it fit in my macros and my calories, but unfortunately it really did hinder my progress. So, I stopped eating them and can feel a difference in my energy level and obviously my weight has gone down, my stomach flattened out. .....
Yeah I have to do the same thing if I am wanting to shed any fat.....
Cut out as many if not all simple sugars.0 -
Could it be water related? Whats your salt in take like?0
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I've been on here a couple of years now and all that's happened is weight gain with now an increase in measurements.. I've been told to do 5x5, use tdee and generally up calories from having spent years doing excess cardio and eating minimal food.
Background, PE Teacher (mixture of being on feet and t desk), lifting heavy, some cardio in spin, intervals, jogging etc. 29 years, 4ft 11 and weight has crept up to 58kg from about 53-54. Waist used to be 27.4 now 29. My diary is open. I use my hrm to track collides burn and generally I know it's around 300 in a typical session.
Recently I've returned from my holiday and am feeling heavier and clearly I know why...from alcohol and all inclusive. Even on normal weeks I'm eating ok, drink at weekend and log but no loss, I even stopped drinking for 5 weeks with no loss or change. I love food and do enjoy treats and wonder surely that giving up a treat that fits into my daily allowance is what I need to do. You can see from my diary how I log and weigh my food.
Just need some support.
So if I read this correctly you are freaked out that after a vacation with lots of drinking and eating that your measurements when up? Sorry I find the post sort of confusing.
When did you start 5x5? Are you including your expected exercise calories in your TDEE calculations?
I personally would not suggest stopping with the heavy lifting, stick with 5x5 as it is set up.
As for weight gain, if you have been eating way to few calories for a long time, you have likely caused adaptations in your metabolism that will simply take time to correct themselves. A study of people on a very low calorie diet for a substantial period of time resulted in hormonal changes that made weight gain much more likely, and those changes lasted even to a follow up blood test a year later. This is not to say that happened to you, but that sort of adaptation of metabolism to long term sever calorie restriction is documented and will take time to correct. Add to this your over indulgence on vacation, and you will simply have to work it off.
Frankly 1400 calories does not seem excessive for your weight and age.0 -
I have always had one square of dark chocolate per day and recently I've had maybe a bit more. I've also been lifting for well over a year so its not new to my body.0
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I've been on here a couple of years now and all that's happened is weight gain with now an increase in measurements.. I've been told to do 5x5, use tdee and generally up calories from having spent years doing excess cardio and eating minimal food.
Background, PE Teacher (mixture of being on feet and t desk), lifting heavy, some cardio in spin, intervals, jogging etc. 29 years, 4ft 11 and weight has crept up to 58kg from about 53-54. Waist used to be 27.4 now 29. My diary is open. I use my hrm to track collides burn and generally I know it's around 300 in a typical session.
Recently I've returned from my holiday and am feeling heavier and clearly I know why...from alcohol and all inclusive. Even on normal weeks I'm eating ok, drink at weekend and log but no loss, I even stopped drinking for 5 weeks with no loss or change. I love food and do enjoy treats and wonder surely that giving up a treat that fits into my daily allowance is what I need to do. You can see from my diary how I log and weigh my food.
Just need some support.
So if I read this correctly you are freaked out that after a vacation with lots of drinking and eating that your measurements when up? Sorry I find the post sort of confusing.
When did you start 5x5? Are you including your expected exercise calories in your TDEE calculations?
I personally would not suggest stopping with the heavy lifting, stick with 5x5 as it is set up.
As for weight gain, if you have been eating way to few calories for a long time, you have likely caused adaptations in your metabolism that will simply take time to correct themselves. A study of people on a very low calorie diet for a substantial period of time resulted in hormonal changes that made weight gain much more likely, and those changes lasted even to a follow up blood test a year later. This is not to say that happened to you, but that sort of adaptation of metabolism to long term sever calorie restriction is documented and will take time to correct. Add to this your over indulgence on vacation, and you will simply have to work it off.
Frankly 1400 calories does not seem excessive for your weight and age.
The gain in weight has been increasing over a period of time. Whatever I do I struggle to lose and now im even more concerned as I've gained over the holidays... I'm talking a holiday period of 7 weeks.
I've been doing 5x5 for over a year now. I have also heard that even 1700 isn't even too much. This what confuses me the most.0 -
I've been doing 5x5 for over a year now. I have also heard that even 1700 isn't even too much. This what confuses me the most.
Depends on the foods and the marco breakdown.
Since you gained weight, you might need to re-visit/re-adjust your daily caloric needs.0 -
I've been on here a couple of years now and all that's happened is weight gain with now an increase in measurements.. I've been told to do 5x5, use tdee and generally up calories from having spent years doing excess cardio and eating minimal food.
Background, PE Teacher (mixture of being on feet and t desk), lifting heavy, some cardio in spin, intervals, jogging etc. 29 years, 4ft 11 and weight has crept up to 58kg from about 53-54. Waist used to be 27.4 now 29. My diary is open. I use my hrm to track collides burn and generally I know it's around 300 in a typical session.
Recently I've returned from my holiday and am feeling heavier and clearly I know why...from alcohol and all inclusive. Even on normal weeks I'm eating ok, drink at weekend and log but no loss, I even stopped drinking for 5 weeks with no loss or change. I love food and do enjoy treats and wonder surely that giving up a treat that fits into my daily allowance is what I need to do. You can see from my diary how I log and weigh my food.
Just need some support.
Check out the eat more to weight less thread.. it may be helpful0 -
But as I said in earlier post.
Get more veggies in your diet. Green leafy kind0 -
Where its been summer I've been eating more salad based food. Normally winter time etc I pack in loads of carrots, broccoli, green beans etc.
I have been told to aim for 40/30/30? (Pro/carbs/fat)0 -
But as I said in earlier post.
Get more veggies in your diet. Green leafy kind
I support this post! Learn to love salads!0 -
Where its been summer I've been eating more salad based food. Normally winter time etc I pack in loads of carrots, broccoli, green beans etc.
I have been told to aim for 40/30/30? (Pro/carbs/fat)
Broccoli/ asparagus/ other green leafy's should be on your daily diet.
The fiber content is very important for weight loss.
You can try that....seems like a decent even balance.
On workout days, I might would up carbs to ~40% and drop fats to 20%
And non-workout days, drop carbs and up fats (good fats) a bit.....
Keep protein high daily.
But again, you may need to drop daily caloric intake......0 -
Im looking forward to more greens as over the summer I reduce them as its too hot and I prefer a salad. I'm just still unsure what to drop the calories too? I find carbs really don't agree when they are much higher. I generally make sure most of my fats are good ones...avocado, yogurt, cottage cheese, nuts, seeds etc.0
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Im looking forward to more greens as over the summer I reduce them as its too hot and I prefer a salad. I'm just still unsure what to drop the calories too? I find carbs really don't agree when they are much higher. I generally make sure most of my fats are good ones...avocado, yogurt, cottage cheese, nuts, seeds etc.
You could try two days where your carbs are elevated.
Then a day or two, where they are very low (< 50 - 70gr maybe).....and fats elevated a bit.
Keep protein up on all days.0 -
FYI,
Using the IIFYM calculator and putting in your numbers.
Mind you, I use these as ball-park figures....not hard and fast numbers. So they give an me idea of where I should be.....
But for you.
BMR 1200
TDEE 1600
With 3 days of exercise / wk.0 -
I generally do 4 days per week plus being at work. So I should eat between these numbers?0
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Yeah, even changing up the exercise numbers, your TDEE still comes out around 1600....
So try a couple months coming in around 1500.....
Keep your protein up, and carbs/fats in check
See what happens.0 -
But remember......treat those calculator numbers as "ideas"......just to get you going in the right direction.0
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I was on 1500...zero happened! What about cheat meals? I tend to eat out/drink socially on weekends.0
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then plan those cal in ahead of time. then you can cheat but still be around your daily goalsI was on 1500...zero happened! What about cheat meals? I tend to eat out/drink socially on weekends.0 -
How long should I be waiting to see some sort of loss?0
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By what I generally see with everyone that does a diet/lifestyle change...
60 - 90 days.
Gives the body time to adapt and start cleaning itself out....since people who are doing this, are beginning to add in healthier foods...like veggies.0 -
Maybe you need to go back to test-weighing everything. I've found in the past that one of my failings was to start operating 'by eye'. That way lies failure. I did notice that you had in there 20 grapes at something like 50g. whoever created that must have been talking about some very small grapes. Maybe the foods you are choosing from the net, being member submitted, are actually inaccurate?
You're safe in the arms of the laws of physics. You cannot be an exception to the 'calories in minus calories used equals calories saved' equation. this can only mean one of 2 things:
1. you're losing the weight but something in your body is masking it;
2. the calculations are wrong: either the system is calculating the calories used by you in exercise wrongly somehow, or your kitchen scales are off, or you've started 'guestimating' and been getting it a bit wrong.
I looked at your bmr calculator and got 1211 cals a day if you don't get out of bed. I guess a tiny person like you is going to use fewer calories when you exercise. But I still would have thought you'd be coming in at over 1700 for maintenance. how much exercise do you do in a day?0 -
I saw a big difference from interval training. I've upped my cals so that I'm only seeing a minimal deficit from my TDEE. As a result I'm only seeing half a lb off every week. With another 30lbs to go it's frustrating as I know I could lose it quicker at a weightloss class but I've been there so many times and the fat has just piled back on. Stick with it hun. I have an all inclusive booked for October - eek! It's so easy to just join everyone else and eat whatever.0
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50g is actually 10'grapes....I halved it...so 10 grapes is 50g and not 20! I pretty much weigh everything I eat using a digital scale.
As a PE teacher I'm on my feet quite a bit of the day. When I I exercise I will do warm up jog for half a mile then heavy lifting with short intense cardio after, or spinning, 5k run etc. training around 4 days per week. I play netball once a week too. According to my hrm which has a new battery, I'm burning aroundb300-400 calories per session. My heart rate sits above 125bmp wi a lot of the time it being over 150bpm.
Thanks Laura. What do you do for your interval training!0
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