STOP COUNTING CALORIES: EAT CLEAN

high gi rice is not clean? WTF?

Every Japanese person I met told me to wash the rice until the water runs clear. Then it is clean and good to cook.

Cook your own meals and you eliminate the problem.

What are you doing here if you don't want to count calories? It's not for everyone. If you don't want to do it...then don't! But eating clean and healthy doesn't mean you won't gain if you are over eating.

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maintaining weight requires you to eat clean

Lying is bad, mmkay?

I never count calories. Ever!
I do NOT log my food here.

I simply eat correctly. Meaning I don't eat garbage, I watch portions, I don't snack, I don't use sugar of ANY kind. Not even the fake crap. I drink water, water, water. And only water. When I think I've had enough water, I drink a few more cups of water.
I exercise 3-5 days a week. I never eat fast food, candy or processed crap.

Every morning I drink an 8oz glass of water with 1oz of Lemon juice in it within the 10 minutes of waking up.
I NEVER, EVER skip breakfast. In fact, within 1 hour of waking I eat a 3-4 egg white omelet along with 6oz of Chobani Plain Fat-free Greek Yogurt and 1/2 of an orange, every single day..

Lunch is usually a large salad with chicken and Fat free Italian dressing. And an apple or something. I'll snack on carrots or other veggies through out the day.

I drink half my body weight in water every day minimum.

Dinner is similar to lunch.

This is my daily routine.


I never log it and I've lost 40+ pounds. As long as you eat right, exercise and font snack on crap, drink sugary drinks and exercise, you should be fine. You know what you shouldn't be eating or drinking.

FYI, fat free foods like your FF yogurt and FF salad dressing are very processed. They almost always contain extra chemicals, sodium or artificial something to make up for the fat that is removed...

Eating "clean" isn't going to cause you to lose weight unless it makes it easier for you to eat at a calorie deficit. Counting calories really isn't that difficult, doesn't take that much time once you figure it out, and allows you to know exactly where you are, so that you don't over or under eat. If it doesn't work for you, that is no one's business but your own, but I do wonder why you are on a site built around a calorie counter. You might as well walk into a WW meeting and tell everyone that you don't like the food. It may be true, but it's not a good way to start a conversation.

i didn't mean to offend calorie counters out there... like i said, i was just curious and wanted to seek advice on times i didn't want to record my calorie intake or simply times when im uncertain of calories in a certain dish like the ones my parents make. i know how to count calories and its very effective. this app makes it so much easier which is why i am using it right now. the thread title may have been misleading.. i don't want any calorie counters out there to stop counting calories calories. i am rather just bringing this topic up. i have read many articles against calorie counting and for clean eating. i'm sorry if i made a bad impression. ofc on a calorie counting app like this i would have thought many were devoted calorie counters, i just wanted to see what people thought or what they would do if they stopped counting calories and just started eating clean. sorry again

I'm not offended personally but can't speak for anyone else. I calorie count most of, but not all of, the time. Being incredibly detailed about over time though has allowed me to adjust my perception of what a portion looks like and what it feels like to be truly hungry (vs. bored) or satisfied (vs. stuffed).

The only thing that I will point out is that it is a factual error to say that one must "eat clean" to lose weight or that "eating clean" is "better" than calorie counting. The irrational fear of "chemicals" displayed by so many in the clean eating movement never fails to amaze me. The body needs certain nutrients and we can feed our bodies in a variety of ways. Many of us have been quite successful at body recomposition by eating diets with a good mix of what many would define "clean" along with plenty of "processed" foods, along with a fair amount of added sugar. If you want to look at the reality, you can't overlook this counterexample to the claims in all of those clean eating books that are marketed to the dieting public.

No thanks, I'd rather eat "dirty" and still get results.

I eat white pasta, potatoes, dairy, red meat, and many other things people categorize as "dirty" such as cheese puffs, pop tarts, and ice cream and amazingly enough I still lost weight and am perfectly healthy.

And counting calories is not tedious; it helps me to see my macros ratios accurately which helps me attain my goals faster by eating the right amount of protein for my body weight. (for example)

i like to eat 'dirty' too because it tastes good lol although, it lacks nutrition value so i try to limit these 'dirty' processed food and control my portion sizes. i don't think potatoes, red meat, dairy should be classified as bad food! yeah i agree now, it's definitely worth it at the end since i've seen great results from it when i was a religious MFP user last yr. i just need to make it an everyday habit again.

Poor cows!

If women miscount their calories it can be detrimental for their loss.

lets say they miscount 100 calories and they consume 1500 calories a day, that is quite a bit vs a guy who consumes 2500 calories.


Not everything is set in stone to 100% of the exact calories regardless if that is what you want to believe.
fruit, meat(one of the hardest consistencies), veggies, etc.

processed food labels can be quite a bit off, my suggestion is Aim lower, because you are probably intaking more.

Personally I dont counter calories, directly. I just have a general idea

Another boring series of tit for tat tirades between people espousing clean eating vs. IIFYM. Honestly, people, give it a rest and use the extra time to go burn off a few thousand calories. That actually WILL help you live healthier.

I will cite one study (yes, peer reviewed) that sheds light on the subject. The study, conducted by Philip M. Fernbach, Todd Rogers, Craig R. Fox and Steven A. Sloman, cites a psychological phenomenon called "The Illusion of Explanatory Depth" first postulated by Rozenblit & Kell to describe the ill-informed rants people get into over politics. I am going to go out on a limb here and make an inference which is based purely on supposition: that rants between food fanatics adhere to the same psychological phenomenon. I will quote the abstract below, and you can decide for yourself:

"We hypothesized that people typically know less about such policies than they think they do (the illusion of explanatory depth; Rozenblit & Keil, 2002) and that polarized attitudes are enabled by simplistic causal models. We find that asking people to explain policies in detail both undermines the illusion of explanatory depth and leads to more moderate attitudes (Experiments 1 and 2). We also demonstrate that although these effects occur when people are asked to generate a mechanistic explanation, they do not occur when people are instead asked to enumerate reasons for their policy preferences (Experiment 2). Finally, we show that generating mechanistic explanations reduces donations to relevant political advocacy groups (Experiment 3). The evidence suggests that people’s mistaken sense that they understand the causal processes underlying policies contributes to polarization."

I think you shouldn't write posts if you have no idea what you're talking about....


lol.
I've always wanted to qrite that.

Personally i think its more about making the right choices rather than over thinking calorie consumption. For instance calorie counters sometimes might think like oh this biscuit is only 85 cals whereas this banana is 100 and therefore go for the biscuit because it keeps their calorie count lower. As long as your making a healthy choice is shouldnt be restricted by the amount of calories init but more about the nutritional value. If ur making a choice between 2 cheat meals, maybe go for the lower calorie option then but other than that if its the right choice then calories shoodn't really matter .

Everyones different though but i know i used to be one of those people who would think why waste all those calories on a piece of fruit when i can have a treat for the same amount ha. But after following the Rapid Fitness plans i have a totally diferent outlook on food now and feel much happier and healthier .