clear liquids...and starving.

MSeel1984
MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
in Food and Nutrition
So...I have a surgery tomorrow morning and I am FAMISHED. I was allowed a very light breakfast and now nothing but clear liquids.

I know I'll be under by a minimum of 700 calories today and that tomorrow I will be starving.

I'm wondering to myself-is it ok to go over tomorrow, given that I'll have such a big deficit today?

Not saying I'm going to buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of peanut butter and go to town, but....use tomorrow as kind of a refueling day.
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  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I will Zig Zag my calories some weeks so yes perfectly fine to do that.... Best of Luck
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    I will Zig Zag my calories some weeks so yes perfectly fine to do that.... Best of Luck

    Thanks-I'm a little nervous.

    And BTW: IS THAT YOUR CALF?! HOly crap balls!
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I would probably buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of PB...
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Depends on how you feel after the surgery. A couple of low cal days won't do any harm in the overall scheme.
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I will Zig Zag my calories some weeks so yes perfectly fine to do that.... Best of Luck

    Thanks-I'm a little nervous.

    And BTW: IS THAT YOUR CALF?! HOly crap balls!

    Yep that be mine..... hehehe :tongue:
  • godsgrl33
    godsgrl33 Posts: 307 Member
    You should be able to eat jello, and drink soda (if you do). Even juice. Do whatever you can to keep up your sugar up. Ease back into eating normally, especially after surgery or your procedure. Anesthesia can do funky things to a person.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    You should be able to eat jello, and drink soda (if you do). Even juice. Do whatever you can to keep up your sugar up. Ease back into eating normally, especially after surgery or your procedure. Anesthesia can do funky things to a person.

    Oh I know-when they put me under to take my wisdom teeth out (they were impacted), I vomited half of the day the next day. :(

    I know they usually give you something light like crackers or jell-o after the surgery.

    Right now all I can think of is food. I have this amazing loaf of high fiber bread on the counter that is calling out to be made into toast, but I know I can't have it-not now anyway.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    I would probably buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of PB...

    Ditto... Double stuff.
  • Tessyloowhoo
    Tessyloowhoo Posts: 504
    From my experience anesthesia slows down digestion and can make you feel nauseous. I would avoid acidy stuff like oranges and high fat meals for the first 24 hours after anesthesia.

    I always say go with your gut... if you are craving it most of the time it is okay to eat it... cravings seem to be the bodies way of letting me know what i should attempt to eat
  • itsjustdawn
    itsjustdawn Posts: 1,073 Member
    I would probably buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of PB...

    Ditto... Double stuff.

    I love the Cowboys shirt. But double-stuff and a jar of Nutella.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    It is fine - and probably a good thing to 'make up' the next day if you can stomach it as more food helps recovery.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    Thanks for the advice all! I'm dreading tomorrow...It'll be good to just get it over with but...I'm afraid of what they may find more than anything else.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Do you have beef broth and chicken broth? It isn't going to fill you up, but it can give you some protein which may help you feel better through the day.

    Ease back into a full diet slowly. You'll be hungry, obviously. But if you cram all the food in your mouth, it won't sit well. Start small, eat slowly. Wait an hour. Eat more.

    And don't worry about calorie count for today or tomorrow at all. This is a separate event from your weight loss progression. Just do it, and then get back to normal. That said, do log it anyway, just so you have a continuous diary entry. But don't overthink it.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Are you having full anesthesia and being cut open? Or something like Versed, for a 'twilight sleep' for something like a colonoscopy?

    If it's the Versed, you won't feel any lingering effects afterward. Not at all like with actual anesthesia.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    Do you have beef broth and chicken broth? It isn't going to fill you up, but it can give you some protein which may help you feel better through the day.

    Ease back into a full diet slowly. You'll be hungry, obviously. But if you cram all the food in your mouth, it won't sit well. Start small, eat slowly. Wait an hour. Eat more.

    And don't worry about calorie count for today or tomorrow at all. This is a separate event from your weight loss progression. Just do it, and then get back to normal. That said, do log it anyway, just so you have a continuous diary entry. But don't overthink it.

    Yeah...I did a can of chicken broth for lunch with some jello...another can for dinner. I had thought about onion soup but I know there are pieces of onion in it...It's so strange how even though I'm getting calories, my tummy is growling. You don't really feel satisfied unless you're consuming solids. Very odd.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    Are you having full anesthesia and being cut open? Or something like Versed, for a 'twilight sleep' for something like a colonoscopy?

    If it's the Versed, you won't feel any lingering effects afterward. Not at all like with actual anesthesia.

    This is a "twilight sleep" situation.
    And that's a relief because when I was actually under for my wisdom teeth I was SO sick afterward. They gave me something to help with nausea when I had my appendix out and I wasn't sick the following day.
    Glad I'm not being cut open-can't afford to miss work :(
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Are you having full anesthesia and being cut open? Or something like Versed, for a 'twilight sleep' for something like a colonoscopy?

    If it's the Versed, you won't feel any lingering effects afterward. Not at all like with actual anesthesia.

    This is a "twilight sleep" situation.
    And that's a relief because when I was actually under for my wisdom teeth I was SO sick afterward. They gave me something to help with nausea when I had my appendix out and I wasn't sick the following day.
    Glad I'm not being cut open-can't afford to miss work :(

    This stuff is amazing. You won't even feel groggy afterward. You'll actually feel sort of refreshed. They put it in intravenously, and it goes to work almost immediately. You might sleep for real, you might just be completely disconnected but slightly aware. And then, they remove the drip and you're instantly awake and alert. There is no in-between, coming-out-of-it stage. It's wonderful.

    Good luck and good health!
  • burlingtongrl
    burlingtongrl Posts: 327 Member
    Thanks for the advice all! I'm dreading tomorrow...It'll be good to just get it over with but...I'm afraid of what they may find more than anything else.
    Good luck tomorrow and try to think positive.
  • action_figure
    action_figure Posts: 511 Member
    You might not feel up to eating tomorrow either, depending on the type of surgery.
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    I will Zig Zag my calories some weeks so yes perfectly fine to do that.... Best of Luck

    Thanks-I'm a little nervous.

    And BTW: IS THAT YOUR CALF?! HOly crap balls!

    Yep that be mine..... hehehe :tongue:

    Yours is a mind blowing success story! Awesome calves!
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    Hi,

    I can tell that you are really scared, and I plan to say a prayer for you.

    I too recommend broth, black coffee or tea. The warmth will help you feel more full--you can strain the onions out and drink the onion soup/

    Try to concentrate on getting well. It may take a few days--start slow afterward--ice chips, then jello, crackers, etc. If it's a local, you can probably eat a regular diet pretty quickly. Sometimes weight loss needs to take a back seat to healing.

    good luck!
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    Hi,

    I can tell that you are really scared, and I plan to say a prayer for you.

    I too recommend broth, black coffee or tea. The warmth will help you feel more full--you can strain the onions out and drink the onion soup/

    Try to concentrate on getting well. It may take a few days--start slow afterward--ice chips, then jello, crackers, etc. If it's a local, you can probably eat a regular diet pretty quickly. Sometimes weight loss needs to take a back seat to healing.

    good luck!

    Thank you so much for that advice...I won't be cut open so that's a relief...it's an internal issue. I'm more afraid of what they are going to find than of the procedure itself. I'm praying they find nothing, but my family has a history of these kinds of problems so I'm a little bit scared.
    The bouillon has been my saving grace. It's hot...it's flavorful and it's NOT SWEET. Which is a great break from all the jell-o and crystal light. Plus it's hot which, as you said, does help a lot with feeling full. I may go for some coffee here in a bit-but I'm someone who needs cream in my coffee-which I can't have :( SO I may go for tea instead.
  • spookiefox
    spookiefox Posts: 215 Member
    So...I have a surgery tomorrow morning and I am FAMISHED. I was allowed a very light breakfast and now nothing but clear liquids.

    I know I'll be under by a minimum of 700 calories today and that tomorrow I will be starving.

    I'm wondering to myself-is it ok to go over tomorrow, given that I'll have such a big deficit today?

    Not saying I'm going to buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of peanut butter and go to town, but....use tomorrow as kind of a refueling day.

    There is nothing magic about days. In any given week I have days over and days under. At the end of the week my days average out. For instance, on Thursday I was under by 500 cal. On Friday I was over by ~450.

    What's the surgery for? Yes, I'd treat myself tomorrow. I had to have my left hand repaired after a motorcycle accident last winter and eating some comfort foods was all that got me through. Well, that and oxycodone. LOL
  • spookiefox
    spookiefox Posts: 215 Member
    Are you having full anesthesia and being cut open? Or something like Versed, for a 'twilight sleep' for something like a colonoscopy?

    If it's the Versed, you won't feel any lingering effects afterward. Not at all like with actual anesthesia.

    This is a "twilight sleep" situation.
    And that's a relief because when I was actually under for my wisdom teeth I was SO sick afterward. They gave me something to help with nausea when I had my appendix out and I wasn't sick the following day.
    Glad I'm not being cut open-can't afford to miss work :(

    This stuff is amazing. You won't even feel groggy afterward. You'll actually feel sort of refreshed. They put it in intravenously, and it goes to work almost immediately. You might sleep for real, you might just be completely disconnected but slightly aware. And then, they remove the drip and you're instantly awake and alert. There is no in-between, coming-out-of-it stage. It's wonderful.

    Good luck and good health!

    You do want to be careful, though. Technically "Twilight Sleep" is usually midazolam (Versed) and fentanyl, and fentanyl is a narcotic 80X more potent than morphine (and 40X more potent than even heroin) with all the effects narcotics can have. And midazolam is an benzodiazepine like Valium--which is why you feel so relaxed and good after. Just be careful. And remember that nausea after an opioid is normal.
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    Are you having full anesthesia and being cut open? Or something like Versed, for a 'twilight sleep' for something like a colonoscopy?

    If it's the Versed, you won't feel any lingering effects afterward. Not at all like with actual anesthesia.

    This is a "twilight sleep" situation.
    And that's a relief because when I was actually under for my wisdom teeth I was SO sick afterward. They gave me something to help with nausea when I had my appendix out and I wasn't sick the following day.
    Glad I'm not being cut open-can't afford to miss work :(

    This stuff is amazing. You won't even feel groggy afterward. You'll actually feel sort of refreshed. They put it in intravenously, and it goes to work almost immediately. You might sleep for real, you might just be completely disconnected but slightly aware. And then, they remove the drip and you're instantly awake and alert. There is no in-between, coming-out-of-it stage. It's wonderful.

    Good luck and good health!

    You do want to be careful, though. Technically "Twilight Sleep" is usually midazolam (Versed) and fentanyl, and fentanyl is a narcotic 80X more potent than morphine (and 40X more potent than even heroin) with all the effects narcotics can have. And midazolam is an benzodiazepine like Valium--which is why you feel so relaxed and good after. Just be careful. And remember that nausea after an opioid is normal.

    Well and the other thing that makes me nervous is that I'm not allowed to keep my insulin pump on. I have to take it off. I have the basal rate turned down until tomorrow morning to only 80% of my usual dose...but I HATE being off my pump and the only thing I hate more than that is having high blood sugars...it feels awful. At least my husband will be there to give me a ride to and from and he'll make sure I get my pump back on asap.
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    do what the nurses tell you to eat. anesthesia can have a bad effect on the kind of food you eat.
  • bridgie101
    bridgie101 Posts: 817 Member
    editing - should have read the whole thread before posting.

    Um. you're a type 1 diabetic - don't you have to keep a certain sugar level in your system or you go into a coma?

    Is that doable on a liquid fast? Are you going okay with that?
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    You will be fine if you overdo it a bit tomorrow.

    Best wishes on your surgery. I hope it goes well.
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    I would probably buy a pack of Oreos and a jar of PB...

    If you feel like oreos after surgery - go for it.
    Good luck with your surgery.

    Oh and eating for a while on maintenance will help with recovery
  • MSeel1984
    MSeel1984 Posts: 2,297 Member
    editing - should have read the whole thread before posting.

    Um. you're a type 1 diabetic - don't you have to keep a certain sugar level in your system or you go into a coma?

    Is that doable on a liquid fast? Are you going okay with that?

    Yeah-I actually had some pretty great blood sugars yesterday. I did have regular jell-o in the house. I mostly had crystal light, diet snapple, bouillon, chicken broth...if my sugar started to get low, I had a regular jell-o. If it was running normal-high I had diet jell-o. My breakfast was a yogurt and a small pack of lower fiber oatmeal. So I did alright...but today I'm starving.

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