weight watchers wtf !!!
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yesterday ww peeps who joined at work lets see muffins , big bowl of fruit , muti packs flavored oatmeal breakfast bars all talking points this point that ???? oh and a guy with a small amount ofcottage cheese and peaches canned of course
while i just ate 8 egg white omellete 138 cal ( onions,bellpeppers,mushrooms est 25 cal ) with 25 cal slice cheese , 70 cal 4 piece bacon and the devil food it self BREAD!!! white bread at that :bigsmile: 55 per slice total 343 calories :drinker:0 -
I don't know. I'm doing pretty good just being militant about counting calories on myfitnesspal, watching sodium intake, maxing out on water, and exercising 3-4 days week. 25 pounds in 60 days is nothing to sneeze at. i think people are looking for a easy way to lose weight, hence weight watchers. There's no easy way, other than validating EVERYTHING you eat and drink. If you go over, eat less the next day and exercise. If you haven't eaten enough, find efficent and healthy calories. I'm not a genius, but just counting and reading nutrition information is the key. It's just math.0
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I guess those people aren't following the healthy guidelines that Weight Watchers stresses (whole foods, fruit, veg, lean proteins, etc)?
Then again, they can eat whatever they want, right? It's not Weight Watcher's fault , is it?
If they were counting calories, they'd proabably eat those foods you deem "bad" too.
In my mind, it's all about choices, why should theirs bother you?0 -
they dont bother me its just the person they sent from ww did not know what she was talking about now is that a good idea for ww to send people in that dont know simple questions just because i lost close to 50 lbs kept off for nearly 3 yrs doesnt make me an expert so why do they think she was telling us she lost 50 with ww i am not against it ww just bad exp here with it at workI guess those people aren't following the healthy guidelines that Weight Watchers stresses (whole foods, fruit, veg, lean proteins, etc)?
Then again, they can eat whatever they want, right? It's not Weight Watcher's fault , is it?
If they were counting calories, they'd proabably eat those foods you deem "bad" too.
In my mind, it's all about choices, why should theirs bother you?0 -
Oh, so it's the "bad" leader and the food choices that are getting to you, I see.
I have no idea why WW would send such an uninformed leader, seems counterintuitive to me.
Though, the plan materials are pretty clear so if anyone were truly curious, they could read the materials
then confirm with their leader (even if said leader isn't that well versed in the WW plan materials).
I just get the sense that you think you're diet is better because you eat "real" food as opposed to those examples
you gave of the WW peoples breakfast choices, and it is somehow superior. WW doesn't say bread is the devil and allows for the foods you listed as your breakfast.0 -
Weight Watchers is one of the best "diets" out there, and you do not starve.0
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I found I could eat either on the weight watchers diet. As long as I stayed within my points it was all allowed. Course a proper breakfast like yours would fill me up more than a breakfast bar and some fruit so that was generally the sort of thing I'd have. It's just about choice. I'm making the same choices on what to eat now as I was then. I lost roughly 1lb a week at ww, I'm hoping to do the same here.yesterday ww peeps who joined at work lets see muffins , big bowl of fruit , muti packs flavored oatmeal breakfast bars all talking points this point that ???? oh and a guy with a small amount ofcottage cheese and peaches canned of course
while i just ate 8 egg white omellete 138 cal ( onions,bellpeppers,mushrooms est 25 cal ) with 25 cal slice cheese , 70 cal 4 piece bacon and the devil food it self BREAD!!! white bread at that :bigsmile: 55 per slice total 343 calories :drinker:0 -
I so agree with poster...
WW = Starvation
Anybody ever convert your calories into points? I have -- and without a doubt I can eat MORE doing MFP than doing the point system. The times I converted my daily calories to the point system I was around 35-40 points! That's odd - because WW says I should be around 24. Starvation, starvation, starvation.
WW will never get another dime from me.
~Tamie
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wow, there is a huge difference. The reason i dotn like the point systems is because not all calories are created equal. if you have X amount of chicken and X amount of chocolaate....both worth say... 5 points (no i dont know how the points work.....never did WW), then eat the chocolate right....same amount of points as the chicken right? Same points, yes, but go check out the nutrition.....calories are completely different.
How is that different? If you're just counting calories, what's stopping you from eating the chocolate?
Today is the last day of my WW week. I still have extra points left for the week, I'm down a pound already and yesterday I ate 2,005 calories. I'm hardly starving. Based on some of the posts I see on this board, I'm eating more than most people who are counting calories, and I'm eating quality food, not junk.
Anyone who did WW and was starving didn't do it right.
I still track what I eat on this site. My menu is public. I'm down 5 pounds in two weeks. You're all welcome to see what I'm eating if you want a TRUE AND REAL idea of what WW entails. I invite you to do so and to read the blog I posted a link to above.
There are a lot of people commenting here who have either never done WW (especially the person up there who thinks it's an easy, quick fix) or who didn't do it right.0 -
I think the weightwatchers spokesperson wasn't the best informed from what I can see. When I went to weightwatchers after my last daughter was born, the emphasis was on a change of lifestyle and healthy eating, not starvation and not eating all the points allocated on chocolate and cake. Some people do that, of course - one of my group members lost 22lbs in 6 weeks eating (in my view) rubbish food. But if you follow the guidelines, it's not unhealthy, and it's certainly not a quick fix.
I prefer MFP because a) I don't have time for meetings and b) I don't have any spare cash and c) I love the support that's available 24/7,
But I would never criticise another way of losing weight as long it is healthy and sustainable longterm.0 -
Im thinknig about joining WW again, because Im not having sucess here at all. I need the meetings and person to person interaction. Honestly, I wish I didnt, I wish this site worked for me, but its very difficult for me to get motivated here.0
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Im thinknig about joining WW again, because Im not having sucess here at all. I need the meetings and person to person interaction. Honestly, I wish I didnt, I wish this site worked for me, but its very difficult for me to get motivated here.
My Mom's the same way, for years, WW was what worked best for her (though it wasn't that effective, but was most effective). She's always felt the need for more personal accountability, rather than a green number on a computer screen. Though what's worked the best lately: menopause, good friends, and Curves!0 -
I lost almost 40 pounds on weight watchers years ago.. the only thing ww does is scale down calories into points.. and basicly each point is about 50 caloires... the break everything down in the books which they sell.. and the meetings are nice because you make friends that are going through the same thing.... I never starved on ww... just like i'm not starving now watching my calories again. if you are tracking your points or counting your calories.. it's all about the same, really. we just get into trouble when we stop keeping track of what we put in our mouths.. that's what got us all here..
I really love this site.. it's working so much better for me then WW did.. good luck with your journey0 -
Im thinknig about joining WW again, because Im not having sucess here at all. I need the meetings and person to person interaction. Honestly, I wish I didnt, I wish this site worked for me, but its very difficult for me to get motivated here.
I quit going to meetings a long time ago. I just didn't feel that that environment was best suited for me. I still do follow the plan though.
You gotta do whatever works for you. :flowerforyou:0 -
yes, I guess its different for everyone. I never thought WW worked that great, thought it was a rip off, but I have gained SO much this past yr, I have to try something different, and it has worked for me in the past. I just hope I like this meeting, because there are not too many in my area!0
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yes, I guess its different for everyone. I never thought WW worked that great, thought it was a rip off, but I have gained SO much this past yr, I have to try something different, and it has worked for me in the past. I just hope I like this meeting, because there are not too many in my area!
WW works if YOU work it. Like any diet, just signing up won't take off the weight. You have to work at it.
I've been back on WW 2 1/2 weeks now and I'm down 5 pounds and counting. I keep careful track of my points and exercise religiously. In short, I follow the program.
The question is not whether it works, but whether it's right for you. I know of a few people who go to the meetings for the group support but then count calories or follow some other weight loss program, so maybe that's what you need to do. You could also look into TOPS (although the women in that group, that I've met, tend to be kind of odd) or even Overeaters Annonymous if you just want the support but not the program.0 -
I was going to do WW, but decided to just do my own thang and I have successfully. I got the idea from my in-laws who do it. My FIL lost around 20 pounds in 2 months, my MIL only lost around 12, but she cheated a lot on it. She has no self control. LOL they don't really even do it anymore.0
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I'll add in my tuppence worth, though it's nothing that hasn't been said. I did WW and lost, and did feel deprived. BUT! I feel deprived on any diet/lifestyle change/whatever-you-want-to-call-it as I'd be happy eating loads of chocolate and cake every day. ANOTHET BUT!!! I am happy being slimmer, healthy, and treats now feel like treats. And that's from WW (plus hard work and common sense).
WW works, as everyone says, if it's right for them. I never went to meetings as I didn't want to pay the money, but like here, you can access their message boards (in the UK, anyway) for free and they're really good. The only reason I stopped 'following' WW (and I also agree, they're very similar) is that at my height/weight, I don't think I personally can count veg as free any more, as WW basically says (here in the UK) that with the exception of pease, parsnips and sweetcorn, you can eat as much as you like (and therefore in theory there's NO WAY one should feel starving).
On their boards, some people complain about their leader, so there are rogues out there, and that's what it sounds like you met at work. Shame, as I'd avoided WW for ages (big multinational, global company, I wanted to be different
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I just rejoined one wk ago...I felt deprived and hungry the first few days...why? Because I was eating way too many calories before that...thats how I got into this mess! But then I got used to it...and I splurged a lil on the weekend with my flex points. I weigh in tomorrow...lets see if I lose anything..wish me luck!!
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Good luck, Lee! I eat my weekly and AP points every week and lose. Although, since I started on Mirena, I've been having issues. That isn't WW's fault, though.0
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I just rejoined one wk ago...I felt deprived and hungry the first few days...why? Because I was eating way too many calories before that...thats how I got into this mess! But then I got used to it...and I splurged a lil on the weekend with my flex points. I weigh in tomorrow...lets see if I lose anything..wish me luck!!
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what got me interested in MFP in the first place was the ability to break down the calorie numbers into carbs/protein/fats etc. I was looking to learn more about fueling my body for exercise and rebuilding muscles afterwards and WW just didnt give me that sort of info.
And as someone who leans towards semi-vegetarianism, its important for me to watch my protein intake, not just calorie count. WW didnt teach me that at all. I successfully lost 20 pounds on WW some years ago -- prior to marriage and children -- but paid no attention to protein (fiber, yes!) and barely any to exercise! Yikes!
At first, i was only looking to MFP for better nutrition, not really as a weight loss tool (although i have plenty to lose) and it worked very well in that regard (i recommend it to athletes all the time). Then the plateau i was on (and was kind of ok with being on) just vanished and i started losing again!
MFP isnt perfect for everyone and neither is WW. I would personally recommend MFP over WW, but that is just MY opinion.0 -
I was on WW's after I had my youngest 4 years ago....I lost 55 lbs and loved the system its just to darn expensive which is why I'm here. I love the support and the fact that its FREE and I can sync it with my phone. 0
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It bears repeating, WW is not the same program that it was 20 years ago.They now have healthy guidlines that should be met daily. The very same things you find on the food pyramid are included in the healthy guidelienes; whole grains, lean proteins, fresh fruit/veg, dairy, etc. It's a very "clean" approach to eating, in my estimation.
I don't understand why some people think WW isn't taking healthy eating into consideration when designing their diet plan. I can't really fault a company that promotes healthy & sustainable losses and focuses on healthy guidelines, all the while not depriving onself. I don't follow the logic that just because someone spends their points on chocolate as opposed to grilled chicken with steamed veggies, they're somehow being cheated or not eating well and will deprive their body of nutrition and FAIL. I don't make that leap at all. Then again, I lost ALL my weight doing WW, eating "whole" and staying away from processsed foods.0 -
the people who did join are set for faliure or make it by starving
This is not true. I lost 38 lbs on wwers and certainly didn't do it by starving.0 -
I recently quit WW... I did it for about a year from June 2009 to June 2010. During that time, I actually gained a couple pounds.
I really liked the meetings... the leader was great, the group interaction was awesome, the encouragement really amped me up every week, despite not seeing changes in the scale (or my body).
A big part of the meetings was learning about portion control and making healthier choices... but also, how to get more food for less points. Which was both good and bad.
For example, Yoplait Fat Free Yogurt is about 100 calories, and based on the fat and fiber, it was 2 points. WW Yogurt has the same number of calories, but more fiber, so it was only 1 point. So, wouldn't you rather eat the WW Yogurt?
So, I added it up one day. My 22 point allowance (based on 50 calories/point average) would be 1100 calories... but I was actually taking in closer to 1600 calories. No wonder I wasn't losing any weight. I was taking in more calories than I was burning! I had my BMR tested, and it was 1200 calories. Even with moderate exercise 3-4 days a week, I wasn't creating a caloric deficit.
Anyway, the WW meeting I went to was actually a WW-at-work through the University. They didn't have enough people to continue it through the summer, so it started back up in September. I decided not to renew.0 -
what got me interested in MFP in the first place was the ability to break down the calorie numbers into carbs/protein/fats etc. I was looking to learn more about fueling my body for exercise and rebuilding muscles afterwards and WW just didnt give me that sort of info.
And as someone who leans towards semi-vegetarianism, its important for me to watch my protein intake, not just calorie count. WW didnt teach me that at all. I successfully lost 20 pounds on WW some years ago -- prior to marriage and children -- but paid no attention to protein (fiber, yes!) and barely any to exercise! Yikes!
At first, i was only looking to MFP for better nutrition, not really as a weight loss tool (although i have plenty to lose) and it worked very well in that regard (i recommend it to athletes all the time). Then the plateau i was on (and was kind of ok with being on) just vanished and i started losing again!
MFP isnt perfect for everyone and neither is WW. I would personally recommend MFP over WW, but that is just MY opinion.
As with anything else, it's all in how you work it. I do WW and am vegetarian and get plenty of protein. I track here so I don't have to pay for WW anymore (I have the tools I need for figuring points) and I burned more than 5,350 calories working out last week. So, yeah, I exercise.
WW encourages exercise because you get to eat more if you do it. Not everyone will or wants to exercise. It's a personal choice people make.
I agree that it isn't for everyone, but it seems like people are saying, "I did it this way and that was unhealthy and that's WW's fault."
Nope. It's YOUR fault. You can do MFP and be unhealthy in the way you do it, too. If you need someone standing over you telling you what to eat and how much to exercise, neither WW nor calorie counting is a good program.
And I am far from starving on WW. I average 1,500 to 2,000 calories a day and would eat more, but I'm just not hungry for more.
Magnolia -- You got 1,600 calories on 22 points??? What in the world were you eating? I don't count points for most veggies and even on the days I eat a huge salad, I get 1,700 calories for 29 or 30 points. (I get 20 daily and generally eat all my weekly and AP points -- and lose fine and don't starve).
I do see people who will eat frankenfood to get as much food as possible for their points. But, again, that's USER ERROR, not program error.0 -
Ive done weight watchers a few times. Its a pretty good prgram. However, dont expect group leaders to answer any nutrition questions beyond points & weight watchers terminology.0
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rml_16
I ate a lot of high fiber/low point or no point foods. If I had to point out the biggest culprits...
0 points
1/2 cup fiber one cereal
fiber one yogurt
vegetables... i figure at least 100 calories a day, if not more.
1 points
WW yogurt
low carb tortillas / flat out
90 calorie fiber one bars
Using "set points" with some of my food choices, like berries (when raspberries are available here, it's hard to not eat the entire 6oz container), or lean meats like chicken.0 -
what got me interested in MFP in the first place was the ability to break down the calorie numbers into carbs/protein/fats etc. I was looking to learn more about fueling my body for exercise and rebuilding muscles afterwards and WW just didnt give me that sort of info.
And as someone who leans towards semi-vegetarianism, its important for me to watch my protein intake, not just calorie count. WW didnt teach me that at all. I successfully lost 20 pounds on WW some years ago -- prior to marriage and children -- but paid no attention to protein (fiber, yes!) and barely any to exercise! Yikes!
At first, i was only looking to MFP for better nutrition, not really as a weight loss tool (although i have plenty to lose) and it worked very well in that regard (i recommend it to athletes all the time). Then the plateau i was on (and was kind of ok with being on) just vanished and i started losing again!
MFP isnt perfect for everyone and neither is WW. I would personally recommend MFP over WW, but that is just MY opinion.
As with anything else, it's all in how you work it. I do WW and am vegetarian and get plenty of protein. I track here so I don't have to pay for WW anymore (I have the tools I need for figuring points) and I burned more than 5,350 calories working out last week. So, yeah, I exercise.
WW encourages exercise because you get to eat more if you do it. Not everyone will or wants to exercise. It's a personal choice people make.
I agree that it isn't for everyone, but it seems like people are saying, "I did it this way and that was unhealthy and that's WW's fault."
Nope. It's YOUR fault. You can do MFP and be unhealthy in the way you do it, too. If you need someone standing over you telling you what to eat and how much to exercise, neither WW nor calorie counting is a good program.
And I am far from starving on WW. I average 1,500 to 2,000 calories a day and would eat more, but I'm just not hungry for more.
Magnolia -- You got 1,600 calories on 22 points??? What in the world were you eating? I don't count points for most veggies and even on the days I eat a huge salad, I get 1,700 calories for 29 or 30 points. (I get 20 daily and generally eat all my weekly and AP points -- and lose fine and don't starve).
I do see people who will eat frankenfood to get as much food as possible for their points. But, again, that's USER ERROR, not program error.
Well said, I agree 100%0
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