Do "sugarphobes" also avoid drinking any alcohol?

BrainyBurro
BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
all ethanol is created by the fermentation of glucose, sucrose, and/or fructose.

the resulting ethanol is nothing if not highly refined and processed sugar.

that makes it bad and off-limits to sugarphobic people, right?

i wonder how many people who insist that table sugar is "teh debil" are intellectually consistent enough to be teetotallers as well.

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  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    ethanol is metabolized like a 2 carbon fat though...
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    the resulting ethanol is nothing if not highly refined and processed sugar.

    Ah ha...that's why booze is sooooo goooood....

    Also, I'm not going to be surprised if sugarphobes do in fact avoid alcohol...they probably have lots of phobes and unhealthy relationships with all kinds of foods and whatnots....
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Hmmmm...I love sugar so I wouldn't know.
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    now i want a drink :drinker:
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I think the sugarphobes intentionally avoid consuming anything they may enjoy, because they have convinced themselves that things that actually taste good are automatically bad.

    Some of the crazier ones have managed to convince themselves that these things that taste good actually taste bad. It's a fascinating psychosis.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I like to mix booze into my sugar water.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I like to mix booze into my sugar water.

    That's pretty much how they make port. No wonder it's so good.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I like to mix booze into my sugar water.

    Double Whammy.....
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    I like to mix booze into my sugar water.

    Maker's mark, sugar water, lemon juice. I just blew your mind. I will accept tales of drunken shenanigans as payment.


    (yes I know it's a whiskey sour stop salting my game)
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    This one does... I don't drink...

    And I tend to avoid all forms of refined sugar, using 100% fresh from the local bee farm honey and 100% maple syrup if sweetener is needed.

    Natural foods are sweet enough. No sugar is needed. *said as I fall face first into an apple.... mmmmmmm
  • athensguy
    athensguy Posts: 550
    I wonder if people who avoid eating pure sodium and pure chlorine also avoid eating sodium chloride.
  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    IN for experiments ingesting pure sodium...
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    only if they are pinko commies
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?

    There's a difference between fructose and sucrose.

    Educate yo-self: http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
  • ChristiH4000
    ChristiH4000 Posts: 531 Member
    I'm guessing they don't drink and they probably hate kittens too.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?

    paleolithic man didn't have developed language skills, so even if one of them figured this out, there's no way he could have told the others.

    :frown:
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    I wonder if people who avoid eating pure sodium and pure chlorine also avoid eating sodium chloride.

    I heard the results with pure sodium can be quite explosive....ooooo cool
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    I'm guessing they don't drink and they probably hate kittens too.

    I don't hate kittens... or puppies.

    Ignorant people who don't realize that most "paleo people" follow the paleo diet mostly for medicinal reasons, I do though... stop lumping all of us "paleo people" into one category of religious fanatics... some of us eat this way out of necessity. Thanks.
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?

    There's a difference between fructose and sucrose.

    Educate yo-self: http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM

    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm. lustig isn't exactly a fan of fructose...so I'm not sure what point you are making by posting that video.

    Educate yo-self!

    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
  • elsdonward
    elsdonward Posts: 81 Member
    I get it - this was a chance to get your small pic of yourself on Right?

    Come on - there are no sugarphobes they do not exist have you seen one??? How can you tell one is out there

    Most aliens know that sugars are different - ref honey, molasses, raw cane etc = and what makes them different is their natural qualities

    You work for Tate and Lyle Right??
  • shr645
    shr645 Posts: 1
    all ethanol is created by the fermentation of glucose, sucrose, and/or fructose.

    the resulting ethanol is nothing if not highly refined and processed sugar.

    that makes it bad and off-limits to sugarphobic people, right?

    i wonder how many people who insist that table sugar is "teh debil" are intellectually consistent enough to be teetotallers as well.

    During fermentation, glucose/sucrose/fructose are broken down and converted into ethanol. So, the sugar is no longer there.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?

    paleolithic man didn't have developed language skills, so even if one of them figured this out, there's no way he could have told the others.

    :frown:

    pfft shows how little you know there's total cave paintings in the south of france clearly showing an apple with a big red cross through it and several messages of grunt grunt oog oog fruit diabetes grunt grunt obesity grunt oog oog high fructose corn syrup...me hump woman now. Very graphic but even then paleo people knew they knew.
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    Do paleo people realize there is sugar in fruit?

    There's a difference between fructose and sucrose.

    Educate yo-self: http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM

    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm. lustig isn't exactly a fan of fructose...so I'm not sure what point you are making by posting that video.

    Educate yo-self!

    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

    You're right... he's not a fan of fructose either... but he explains the difference between fructose and sucrose in this video - which is why I posted it... he also says that whole fruit is ok (in moderation <--- that blastphemous word) b/c the fructose is still bound to fiber.

    I will read your posted link b/c I'm always willing to learn more. Thanks for sharing.
  • Quieau
    Quieau Posts: 428 Member
    I doubt that I count as a full-fledged sugarphobe since I still have some in my diet and I'm not against all kinds of sugar, just the highly processed kind with no other nutritional value. I would put alcohol in that category and I avoid it because of its effect on the liver (the sugars). Teetotaler? No, I guess I drink about 2-3 beers a year (usually a half beer with a meal of seafood or wings) and a drink or two during our Christmas celebration. Because it's just not worth the calories to me. If you drink to the level of having a buzz, you're really overdoing it on the sugar/alcohol in most cases. I don't think it's going to kill anyone unless they do it all the time. I have (as a middle aged woman now in my 50s) witnessed the liver failure and subsequent premature death of several friends who relied more on alcohol sugars than food for sustenance at times. It's very sad, but I don't think everyone who has a drink or a few is headed down that path.

    It's all about priorities. Alcohol may not be a priority, but I'll sugar if it's in organic ice cream or home baked goods. In small amounts and mixed with good nutrition, there's no harm in it to the body, as the body is always self-healing. It's when you overwhelm the body's ability to heal from your damage with the sheer volume (and without adding any real nutrition to aid in that detoxification process) that you really get into trouble.

    Most of the dangers of processed sugars are long term. Many can enjoy years, decades or even a lifetime of enjoyment of sugar and alcohol based on a lucky balance of genetics, lifestyle and activity levels (activity helps your body cope with the alcohol and junk too). There are so many factors that play into it, and many don't really start feeling its effects until their later years. Hindsight is always 20/20. I'm glad I never developed the alcohol habit, but the caramel habit has done me just as much damage, I'm pretty sure.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    most "paleo people" follow the paleo diet mostly for medicinal reasons

    Haha! That's funny.

    Anyway, the person you're responding to didn't mention paleo. Neither did the OP. This thread isn't about paleo.
  • marvybells
    marvybells Posts: 1,984 Member
    now i want a drink :drinker:

    me too! the pinot in the fridge is calling my name and it doesn't seem to care that it's only 10:30am on a thursday
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    all kinds of sugar, just the highly processed kind with no other nutritional value.

    You know sugar is considered a "nutritive sweetener" (as opposed to non-nutritive sweeteners like aspartame)?

    Yeah, it turns out that sugar is a carbohydrate. Carbohydrates are macronutrients.

    Macronutrient.

    Sugar is inherently nutritive, as it provides calories.
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    Hmmm.. I manage a liquor store and I've noticed most frequent alcohol buyers also purchase chips, pop and chocolate bars without any apparent guilt. The ones who don't buy the confectionary items are also usually the ones who are on the hunt for gluten free, low carb, organic or diet booze..... undoubtedly under an assumption that those are healthier. Those products are also priced far higher.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    all ethanol is created by the fermentation of glucose, sucrose, and/or fructose.

    the resulting ethanol is nothing if not highly refined and processed sugar.

    that makes it bad and off-limits to sugarphobic people, right?

    i wonder how many people who insist that table sugar is "teh debil" are intellectually consistent enough to be teetotallers as well.

    During fermentation, glucose/sucrose/fructose are broken down and converted into ethanol. So, the sugar is no longer there.

    so you're saying that a sugary drink like plain orange juice is to be avoided, but something like grain alcohol where the sugars have been fully consumed during fermentation, is perfectly fine to drink and consistent with a low-sugar lifestyle? hmmmmmm...
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