Who is that "average woman" who needs to eat 2,000 cal?

My TDEE is 2300 and I eat around 2100 to lose weight. (And I just spent last week on vacation eating between 3500-4000 - yes, it was an AWESOME vacation! - and I gained two pounds that were gone as of today, so I'm assuming that was just my glycogen levels being restored.)

To maintain I have to eat 2000 calories a day...

Interesting topic. I'm awfully close to the 2,000 cal mark- 5'4", 138 lbs, and I've been maintaining for a month at 2100-2200 calories a day. I'm hoping that I can increase my LBM and see that number go a little higher, but I'm happy at more than 2,000 a day

My TDEE is 2300 and I eat around 2100 to lose weight. (And I just spent last week on vacation eating between 3500-4000 - yes, it was an AWESOME vacation! - and I gained two pounds that were gone as of today, so I'm assuming that was just my glycogen levels being restored.)

Oh man, I want that vacation and outcome afterwards!

I'm 5'9 and maintain at 2500-3000 a day depending on my activity level (but seriously I am hungry on anything less than 2200). I accept that I'm not average but from the other women I see around me 2000 a day seems about right (different if you are 4'10 I imagine!)

This thread is so mean...



















..........................get it.

Ugh.

And this is why you will *never* be on my FL.

This thread is so mean...



















..........................get it.

Ugh.

And this is why you will *never* be on my FL.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

My maintenance is above 2000 calories a day... but I'm a tall woman.

But in another thread, you said you weren't being consistent with your logging/eating so how do you know what your maintenance is? And if you know your maintenance, then I'm confused about the other thread in where you had issues losing.

Sorry, it just stuck out is all. But...back to the averages I guess....

Isn't there something about creating drama by bringing stuff from other threads? Why is my maintenance any of your damn concern in the first place?

It was just a question...sheesh.

At my height and weight, MFP has my maintenance (for sedentary) at 2230.

I have had my goal at 1800 calories for most of this year. No... I did not always stay at 1800 calories. Guesstimating, I would say I ate at maintenance or higher 6 to 8 times a month.

I'm having some hormone issues.

Why can I not ask a general nutrition question without giving a complete breakdown of my diet/fitness/macro-ratios and overall general health? My diary is my business... if I don't want anyone poking around in it, then that is my choice.

And yes, jonnythan, I deleted you... because you champion IIFYM, then wagged your finger at me when I let you in my diary!!

No one's asking to see your diary or berating you or anything like that.

Joy simply asked how you know your maintenance because of other questions you asked earlier. I wondered the same thing when I read this post.
And, I'm sorry, but you can't ask people to isolate your posts and only respond to them on an individual basis. If you post something about having trouble losing weight, and then post that you aren't logging/tracking/weighing, and THEN post that you know what your maintenance is.....well, people are going to put 1+1+1 together and come to a conclusion about what your problem might be. And then, they may even offer advice on how to fix your issue (medical conditions aside).

That's how MFP works. That's how I've seen you work in the forums many times. Don't be surprised and upset when people ask questions about inconsistent posts.

I'm genuinely sorry if it seemed that I lashed out a Joy. It's become a sensitive subject for me as I feel as if I have been ridiculed for how I choose to work my program. I do not weigh food. I have not been weighing myself. My question that wAs posted in the group was a general question about nutrition and it's relationship to hormones. I didn't feel like opening my diary was necessary to answer a general question relevant to everyone, in general.

But that wasn't a general question, relevant to everyone. Your question was very specific and relevant to your situation.

And you may have something going on - that's for your doctor to determine. But the advice you got in the thread still stands. You need to be more accurate and thorough with MFP before you can claim you're not seeing results.

If you don't log, don't weigh your food, don't exercise, etc, then you're missing pieces of the puzzle. So.....medical issues still aside, you are complaining about not getting results while not doing the work. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's simple for me to see what the problem is. And if there is a medical situation, it will not absolve you of having to do those things in order to reach your goal weight. If anything, you'll have to be twice as diligent.

You also have to realize that most people on this site do not utilize TDEE calculations until long after they've restricted calories and lost weight. Thus, their adjusted TDEE is reduced from baseline.

Here is an example, albeit an extreme one of two persons of identical height, weight and activity levels:

Person A is a yo-yo dieter who has lost weight rapidly only to gain it all back numerous times by following a semi-starvation diet.

Person B has never restricted calories before and has lived her entire life eating, at minimum, the maximum amount to maintain.

Because of Person A's restriction history, she will have a significantly less TDEE than Person B.

I saw a lot of snarky comments. Be nice people, we're all here for the same reason. If you can't be a positive influence, keep your mouth shut.

I did find a neat TDEE calculator that gives you percentages of what to eat based on exercise level. Not sure if it's true for my body, but might be right for yours.

Here's the link:
http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/

we're all here for the same reason

Every time someone says this, a baby seal gets clubbed.

:laugh:

we're all here for the same reason

Every time someone says this, a baby seal gets clubbed.

and gently placed between 2 burger patties to create the ultimate McSealDoubleDown!

yummmmmmmmmmm

Now you're talkin.

My maintenance is above 2000 calories a day... but I'm a tall woman.

But in another thread, you said you weren't being consistent with your logging/eating so how do you know what your maintenance is? And if you know your maintenance, then I'm confused about the other thread in where you had issues losing.

Sorry, it just stuck out is all. But...back to the averages I guess....

Isn't there something about creating drama by bringing stuff from other threads? Why is my maintenance any of your damn concern in the first place?

It was just a question...sheesh.

At my height and weight, MFP has my maintenance (for sedentary) at 2230.

I have had my goal at 1800 calories for most of this year. No... I did not always stay at 1800 calories. Guesstimating, I would say I ate at maintenance or higher 6 to 8 times a month.

I'm having some hormone issues.

Why can I not ask a general nutrition question without giving a complete breakdown of my diet/fitness/macro-ratios and overall general health? My diary is my business... if I don't want anyone poking around in it, then that is my choice.

And yes, jonnythan, I deleted you... because you champion IIFYM, then wagged your finger at me when I let you in my diary!!

No one's asking to see your diary or berating you or anything like that.

Joy simply asked how you know your maintenance because of other questions you asked earlier. I wondered the same thing when I read this post.
And, I'm sorry, but you can't ask people to isolate your posts and only respond to them on an individual basis. If you post something about having trouble losing weight, and then post that you aren't logging/tracking/weighing, and THEN post that you know what your maintenance is.....well, people are going to put 1+1+1 together and come to a conclusion about what your problem might be. And then, they may even offer advice on how to fix your issue (medical conditions aside).

That's how MFP works. That's how I've seen you work in the forums many times. Don't be surprised and upset when people ask questions about inconsistent posts.

I'm genuinely sorry if it seemed that I lashed out a Joy. It's become a sensitive subject for me as I feel as if I have been ridiculed for how I choose to work my program. I do not weigh food. I have not been weighing myself. My question that wAs posted in the group was a general question about nutrition and it's relationship to hormones. I didn't feel like opening my diary was necessary to answer a general question relevant to everyone, in general.

But that wasn't a general question, relevant to everyone. Your question was very specific and relevant to your situation.

And you may have something going on - that's for your doctor to determine. But the advice you got in the thread still stands. You need to be more accurate and thorough with MFP before you can claim you're not seeing results.

If you don't log, don't weigh your food, don't exercise, etc, then you're missing pieces of the puzzle. So.....medical issues still aside, you are complaining about not getting results while not doing the work. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's simple for me to see what the problem is. And if there is a medical situation, it will not absolve you of having to do those things in order to reach your goal weight. If anything, you'll have to be twice as diligent.

No one said I wasn't logging or exercising. All I said was that I don't weigh my food. I find it inconvenient. As I said in the group thread, I stopped lifting because I wasn't progressing with strength gains.

I'm offended by the fact that that conversation has poured over into this one. This thread was not about me. And my statement that my maintenance is above 2000 didn't contradict anything that I said in the other thread. What I said in the other thread is that hormone imbalance could be screwing with my maintenance intake. Yeah, 2230 might not be my actual maintenance level, but based on math it is. So, I don't see how "calling me out" for something I said in other threads was relevant.

Oh... and the question might have been relevant to my situation... or anyone else having issues with cortisol... which could be any number of people.

we're all here for the same reason

Every time someone says this, a baby seal gets clubbed.

There is something fundamentally wrong with you people who seem to find it amusing to berate or joke others. The majority of us are here for support and tracking, no matter what the individual goal: gain, lose or maintain. If someone asks for help, if you don't have any to offer, just don't respond.

we're all here for the same reason

Every time someone says this, a baby seal gets clubbed.

There is something fundamentally wrong with you people who seem to find it amusing to berate or joke others. The majority of us are here for support and tracking, no matter what the individual goal: gain, lose or maintain. If someone asks for help, if you don't have any to offer, just don't respond.

The phrase "we're all here for the same reason" is totally meaningless and wrong.

Furthermore, this meaningless and wrong phrase gets used all the time in an attempt to attack or discredit the "mean" or whatever comments, which are usually the ones that are most helpful, fact-based, and realistic.

We're not "all here for the same reason." Don't say that we are. Even if we were, that's not a valid criticism of anything anyone says.