Is accepting fatness a good thing?
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I didn't read the replies, but while it is not a good thing to accept being heavy, it is also not a good thing to think Skinny means healthy.
I am considered Obese based on my BMI. My husband weighs what he should. I exercise 4 to 6 times a week and eat lots of veggies. He never exercises, eats like no veggies and drinks at least once a week. My cholesterol and BP is perfect, sugars, triglycerides all good. His Cholesterol is high, triglycerides are high too. BP is fine. We both went for Life Insurance, his was on target with the estimate for his age, my price went down because I am so healthy
He likes to pretend its his family history, but I know its his cholesterol and the meds.
So being thin doesn't mean as much overall.
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Teach him to make healthy choices and to look past commercials and what he is told on TV. Teach him that healthy food can be sweet and savory, teach him how to cook for himself and to enjoy cooking. Teach him that while he shouldn't shame someone for making bad choices, that doesn't mean he has to make the same bad choices.
How old is he? Because at some point he can handle hearing that he has to be healthy to run faster, play longer without getting tired.0 -
Yes. It is a good thing.
Accepting fatness doesn't necessarily mean that we view fat as good though.
It should be treated as hair colour or eye colour, we all have different colours but no one really cares. So if someone is okay with being big then let them be, and if they want to lose weight let them.
There should be no thin = good or fat = bad. If someone is happy at 350lbs or someone is happy at 120lbs, who cares? It should all be viewed the same.
Another point: skinny people and skinny models wouldn't be so "idolised" if we accepted all sizes.0 -
To an extent, yes it is. Morbid obesity is unhealthy, but why is one person's health any other person's business? I think it's more important that people be judged as a whole and not reduced to their size. It seems like if you're fat that's pretty much your only defining characteristic. Who cares if you're smart, funny, creative, adventurous, educated...it doesn't matter, you're fat.
Obesity is certainly a health issue, but I know plenty of thin people who are very unhealthy. My best friend, for example- thin, yes. Also a smoker who coughs and hacks so much he even does it in his sleep now, without noticing. He subsists on cigarettes, coffee, and energy drinks, with the occasional sandwich bought from a convenience store cooler. He can't walk around the park without gasping for air. He gets sick at least two or three times every winter and it lasts for weeks. But at least he's thin!! Meanwhile, I am working on losing forty pounds, but I walk every day, eat healthy food, have perfect blood pressure and cholesterol, and almost never get sick. Yet people look at me and think I'm the one who's unhealthy?0 -
Well, it's not that we should accept morbid obesity BUT slightly fat or chubby as we call it should be acceptable. As long as you are healthy and doctors say you're fine then no one else's opinions on it should matter. I see images of people online who look like this (posted below) and are attacked brutally and called horrible names. Like that just doesn't make sense! They look healthy. Sure they have a little more but it's not actually causing any harm to themselves. People need to accept that weight and even a bit bigger, as long as they are still healthy like i said. You don't have to like it, just accept it.
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I DO think that the overall trend to 'love yourself whatever' isn't that great.
So often we seem to be removing the impetuous to improve oureslves.
If people tell me I SHOULD be happy being fat and unhealthy and I believed them, why would I want to improve myself.
I think people should be allowed to feel bad about their current situation - but take solace from the fact they CAN change their situation and be happy that they are working towards their goals.0 -
Accept people...........................don't accept fatness. Is it fair to sit comfortably in a seat on a bus, then have someone who is obese come and sit right beside you easily taking up their seat and extending into yours? And each time the bus stops, you can feel the weight of that person against you? Actually had this happen to me at Disney World.I don't want anyone to think I am being mean. This is an honest question. I understand as a population we are getting fatter all the time. I know I am guilty of it, that's why I am here trying to lose weight. But it seems like there is this big push to just accept fatness and leave it at that. My problem with that is that we know it isn't healthy. We idolize super skinny people, but commercials promote crappy food and drinks. I accept that I am fat now, and I don't believe in shaming people for their weight, but I also know that I would be much healthier if I lost some of the excess.
Is it really a good thing to just accept that people are getting heavier?
I treat my obese/very overweight clients like people. Most are very very nice. So accept them as people. I don't accept that people HAVE to be fat and neither do they.
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With everything said above I want you to look at it this way... If fat people do think its appropriate for anyone to talk about their weight and not to be judged then I would hope they could keep their judgments about my lifestyle today... Thirst week I had an over weight nurse say "just how long do actually think you can go loggin everything to eat?", then I had the clerck at the grocery store say "you never buy anything fun" and then today a out of shape gas station attendant said "you've lost too much weight"... So lets all be accepting of others, but I wish they'd return the favor... Here's my saying "don't comment on my eating, weight or lifestyle and I won't on yours"
Body shaming, in any form, shouldn't be socially acceptable. I get just as irritated with the whole "real men love curves" or "only dogs love bones" comments as I do with the things that have been said to me personally in the past where my weight is concerned. Accepting oneself and learning to love the skin you are in at the moment is important, in my opinion, and nobody should feel entitled to make such judgemental comments.0 -
I accept that the only body I have power over is my own. But I am not going to lie to anyone if they ask me if appearances don't play a part in how people are treated. I have a stepdaughter who is morbidlly obese at age 25. She subscribes to all the "curvy women rule" facebook forums, etc. I noticed she has started losing weight for health purposes. I think those "accept fatness" groups help her feel better about herself and she is trying to get healthier. So maybe acceptance of our "fatness" is the start to "owning" who we are so we realize we have a choice. Not sure. Glad I found the pathway to my current weight and maintenance.0
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Just a quick question: Would you consider someone healthy who may be overweight, but has good blood profiles, low stress, etc., but has chronic pain (light) in their knees, low back, feet and shoulders (not from exercising, but just everyday movement)?
Why do I ask? Because these happen to be the common issues that many people who are just overweight complain about.
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Not all people who are skinny are in shape! Why is it that it's just acceptable to judge those who are overweight when there are plenty of "skinny fat" people that get basically no flack about being unhealthy and eating a ton of garbage and not exercising a day in their life?
Whoever says that they are against self-acceptance at any weight is just plain out wrong, imho. People need inner motivation to improve their health. There have been studies done that show that fat shaming (which means NOT ACCEPTING people who are fat) actually makes people fatter. So let people have their own "health revelations" if they want to. It will mean a lot more in the end if they do it for themselves and not because of peer pressure, and they'll be a lot more likely to make it a lifestyle change rather than just trying to impress people that "don't accept it".
And if they don't ever get healthy, what is it any of your business anyway? Live and let live.0 -
self acceptance is a good/great thing, realising that you are a good person, no matter what shape your body is in is an important concept. Some other important concepts are that loving yourself should mean taking care of yourself and being the best version of yourself, whatever that may be, after all if you love yourself, you are TOTALLY WORTH IT. another idea that people need to keep in their thoughts is DON'T LIE TO YOURSELF. ie don't pretend to be happy with your body if you are not, don't say things like "i am just meant to be chubby" when you are not. there are basic body types that we are born with, and you can't change that, but you can have the best version of that body type if you are willing to work for it.......anyone can, you just need determination. don't say things are too hard when what you mean is that you aren't willing to put in the effort.0
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Just a quick question: Would you consider someone healthy who may be overweight, but has good blood profiles, low stress, etc., but has chronic pain (light) in their knees, low back, feet and shoulders (not from exercising, but just everyday movement)?
Why do I ask? Because these happen to be the common issues that many people who are just overweight complain about.
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You've basically described myself. I recently had a full health check up and whilst all my tests came back fine, the ailments you've described are impacting upon my quality of life. Even losing a few kg, I can feel a significant difference in the low level joint pain. I know it's not arthritis because the pain goes away when I lose some weight, and returns when I put it on. I might not have any physical health issues YET but being overweight contributes to my mental health too - for the first time I am suffering self-esteem issues which is a direct result of my weight. I would NOT consider myself as healthy...0 -
I don't care. Be fat, or be thin. It's your life.0
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Many do things that are bad for their health.
Some smoke, some drink excessively, some eat too much.
Even though we know it is bad, it does not always stop us.
Fat acceptance is just the same as smoking acceptance in my view.
Being fat is bad, unhealthy and really kinda dumb, but its dammed hard to tell my brain not to crave those delicious tasty treats...0 -
In other people, sure. Other peoples' weight is none of my business.0
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of course not. it should be discouraged.0
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I've been fit 95% of my life. Is it for everyone? No. Does it mean I'm healthy and will live another 20 twenty years? No. Is it a lifestyle I enjoy? Most definitely.
I don't look at another person that is overweight & judge. Many people are going through health problems that they can't control. Unfortunately their will always people that want to bring drama if your heavy, light, muscular, pretty, curvy or what have you. Eliminate the drama from your life and love yourself, and the rest will take care of itself.0 -
And many who are just overweight don't really think that it may be an issue later either. Since I work in a Wellness Center, we see the effects of how weight affects joints in all the areas I described. Weight definitely has an impact on how long joints last.Just a quick question: Would you consider someone healthy who may be overweight, but has good blood profiles, low stress, etc., but has chronic pain (light) in their knees, low back, feet and shoulders (not from exercising, but just everyday movement)?
Why do I ask? Because these happen to be the common issues that many people who are just overweight complain about.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You've basically described myself. I recently had a full health check up and whilst all my tests came back fine, the ailments you've described are impacting upon my quality of life. Even losing a few kg, I can feel a significant difference in the low level joint pain. I know it's not arthritis because the pain goes away when I lose some weight, and returns when I put it on. I might not have any physical health issues YET but being overweight contributes to my mental health too - for the first time I am suffering self-esteem issues which is a direct result of my weight. I would NOT consider myself as healthy...
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Absolutely not.0
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people need to accept/love themselves as they are today, right now, this minute, if they are to start working towards a better them. We all know that there can be a wide range of health problems related to carrying varying amounts of body fat. But i believe one would have to accept themselves as they are, in order to make the necessary changes and maintain them.0
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