"We don't sell >1kg dumbells to women"???

I went to buy 4 kg weights for my ripped in 30 routine yesterday and this is what I got told. Eventually I had to tell him the weights were not for me but.... what? What kind of strength training program is one that incorporates just 2lb and 1 lb weights? I carry a laptob bag that weighs nearly 15 pounds because of everything I put in it!

So I came outside and told my mom what he said. Then she says, "Do you want to build muscle or something?" What was that about? I thought building muscle was only possible through a diet surplus and heavy lifting. As far as I know, 4 kg is NOT heavy, right?

That said, (although I also plan to do cardio during the day), how do I know how many grams of protein I need to eat to maintain muscle mass and lose fat?
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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    The guy in the store and (sorry to say) your mother are idiots. You're right.
  • Nimnyn
    Nimnyn Posts: 69 Member
    When I used to go to the gym all the time, I was using up to 35lb dumbbells, which isn't even super big! And my arms certainly didn't get huge... You'd think they'd hire people who had a clue about fitness.
  • OsricTheKnight
    OsricTheKnight Posts: 340 Member
    As far as I know, 4 kg is NOT heavy, right?

    Not only is 4kg not heavy, your goal should be to lift heavy. Not bodybuild, but real strength...

    Osric
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    :grumble:
  • MrsFowler1069
    MrsFowler1069 Posts: 657 Member
    Oh for crying out loud. Stupid.
  • capriqueen
    capriqueen Posts: 976 Member
    Could someone tell me how much protein I need to eat to maintain muscle mass please?
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    Could someone tell me how much protein I need to eat to maintain muscle mass please?

    Usually something around your goal weight in pounds multiplied by .8 is more than enough.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I'm sorry you live in Derpistan. Try a different store. Mail order.


    Edit: protein and other macro questions answered here:http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • Warchortle
    Warchortle Posts: 2,197 Member
    You get big by eating big whether it's fat or muscle.
  • keithmustloseweight
    keithmustloseweight Posts: 309 Member
    Should have asked for some dumbbells for left handed people while you were there
  • Should have asked for some dumbbells for left handed people while you were there

    ^ This.

    Idiot. Too bad he's probably going to procreate.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    Should have asked for some dumbbells for left handed people while you were there

    I do my shopping at the Leftorium
  • CipherZero
    CipherZero Posts: 1,418 Member
    Protip: If you've picked up a gallon of milk, you're using around 4kg.
    Sales guy, mother, and anyone else who claims people can get fit using >4kg dumb bells is an idiot.
  • deadbeatsummer
    deadbeatsummer Posts: 537 Member
    Not only is this stupid but it's also sexual discrimination and something that a store are not allowed to enforce. Please report this so that it doesn't happen again?
  • zorbaru
    zorbaru Posts: 1,077 Member
    this comes from the over zealous litigation that america is known for.

    shop sells weights to woman, woman gets hurt by said weight, woman sues sports shop.

    people are too worried about covering their own *kitten* rather than providing customer service because in todays society it seems that no one will take any responsibility for their own actions, and prefer to blame everyone else.

    (not saying that applies to the OP but its is more common than it should be and it results in attitudes like the store person)
  • postrockandcats
    postrockandcats Posts: 1,145 Member
    1) Go to another store,

    2) Buy the weights you want,

    3) Return to old store,

    4) Have a Pretty Woman moment.

    big-mistake-o.gif
  • kennie2
    kennie2 Posts: 1,170 Member
    did you ask for the manager?
  • 81Katz
    81Katz Posts: 7,074 Member
    I'm pretty much done talking about my lifting with people (in my life) anymore. I am sick of people being all "but but but ... you're gonna bulk up and get huge!"

    Ummm, no I won't! :grumble:

    I'd go elsewhere and I agree about speaking to a manager. A customer is a customer, not sure why because we have vaginas that we're treated as dainty incapable little creatures. Annoying!
  • alisonlynn1976
    alisonlynn1976 Posts: 929 Member
    Wow, that's dumb. If you could carry them to the register, doesn't that prove you can lift them without hurting yourself? The cat litter I buy is 5 kg...
  • Wow, that's dumb. If you could carry them to the register, doesn't that prove you can lift them without hurting yourself? The cat litter I buy is 5 kg...

    ^^^^Love this^^^^
  • kezzola
    kezzola Posts: 65 Member
    Most children get to over 4 kg pretty quickly. And women have no trouble carrying them around at all.
  • I went to buy 4 kg weights for my ripped in 30 routine yesterday and this is what I got told. Eventually I had to tell him the weights were not for me but.... what? What kind of strength training program is one that incorporates just 2lb and 1 lb weights? I carry a laptob bag that weighs nearly 15 pounds because of everything I put in it!

    So I came outside and told my mom what he said. Then she says, "Do you want to build muscle or something?" What was that about? I thought building muscle was only possible through a diet surplus and heavy lifting. As far as I know, 4 kg is NOT heavy, right?

    That said, (although I also plan to do cardio during the day), how do I know how many grams of protein I need to eat to maintain muscle mass and lose fat?

    This seems sexist and illogical... Maybe you look really weak? Nah I'm sorry, I can't even excuse that policy, it just sounds really dumb haha. Some males I know are exceptionally weak due to their poor lifestyle/diet... I wonder if the clerk would sell those weights to them, considering they are male. :grumble: Hmm... Good luck with the 30 days and take it easy on the weights by lifting slowly/warming up properly... which is common knowledge but generally I don't believe there is any reason to be alarmed over yourself lifting such weights... if you are healthy, what's the issue? :ohwell: I have no idea about the protein component of your question. Happy lifting. :smile:
  • this comes from the over zealous litigation that america is known for.

    shop sells weights to woman, woman gets hurt by said weight, woman sues sports shop.

    No. Not even a little bit. The idea that stores are under constant threat of frivolous lawsuit is a foolish myth. Every example in those email forwards your crazy racist uncle sends around is either a complete fabrication or heavily distorted. Truly ludicrous lawsuits aren't that common and typically get shut down almost immediately.

    Ironically, a store refusing service on the basis of gender is a pretty good grounds for a lawsuit.
  • MrsFowler1069
    MrsFowler1069 Posts: 657 Member
    this comes from the over zealous litigation that america is known for.

    shop sells weights to woman, woman gets hurt by said weight, woman sues sports shop.

    No. Not even a little bit. The idea that stores are under constant threat of frivolous lawsuit is a foolish myth. Every example in those email forwards your crazy racist uncle sends around is either a complete fabrication or heavily distorted. Truly ludicrous lawsuits aren't that common and typically get shut down almost immediately.

    Ironically, a store refusing service on the basis of gender is a pretty good grounds for a lawsuit.

    Exactly. Gender is actually a "protected class." Fitness is not. Besides, what if she wanted them for her poor crazy racist uncle who was trying to get in shape? What then? The disabled are also a protected class. She could make millions!
  • scottkjar
    scottkjar Posts: 346 Member
    A store stays in business by expanding its customer base. This store is contracting its customer base. The market will punish the stupidity of the people in the store.

    Patronize some other store. The other store makes more money, outcompetes this store, and puts this store out of business.

    Problem solved.
  • supplemama
    supplemama Posts: 1,956 Member
    Where do you live?? That doesn't even sound right. I'm surprised you gave them your money. I would have said Ok by your choice to be sexist you are losing a sale. I'll just go give (competitor) my money, And walked out.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    I find this incredibly difficult to believe.
  • Alex_is_Hawks
    Alex_is_Hawks Posts: 3,499 Member
    I find this incredibly difficult to believe.

    but we are Canadian....if this happened here it would be precluded with a "I'm sorry" and ended with a "show me your lumberjack jacket as proof of capability"

    right?
  • LearnFromTheRed
    LearnFromTheRed Posts: 294 Member
    Our local TV news would have a field day if this happened here.
  • Vote with your dollars/pounds/euros:

    If someone won't sell you what you want, go elsewhere to a place that isn't run by asshats.