Do Paleo-eaters hate Darwin?

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    ^^ Yes! All hail 'Murica !! -_-
    Doesn't take much then does it? I'm having a friendly debate and you're getting snarky...

    So that first thing wasn't you? Alert the MFP police. You've been hacked.

    Is that the pot calling the kettle black? I didn't know you held the only patent allowed in forums for sarcasm

    Oh dear.

    I don't think I can continue this conversation.
  • asimmons221
    asimmons221 Posts: 294 Member

    OMG. The US also bans imports from other countries.

    That's the point. Every country has its rules. Why is the US backwards and other countries are correct? I don't see Americans dropping dead left and right from our food supply.


    "The 3,000 annual deaths and 130,000 hospitalizations due to foodborne illness, though tragic, are miniscule compared with other deaths related to our diet. Every year at least 310,000 Americans go to an early grave and many more are sickened because of largely preventable diet-related conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, obesity, hypertension, strokes, and some cancers. The big problem with our food supply isn’t pathogens, it is processed food. We’re being killed not by E. coli, salmonella, or campylobacter, but by the nutritionally hollow contents of the bags, boxes, and fast-food clamshells that have managed to pass as nourishment in our society." - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/01/our-unsafe-food-supply-is-killing-us.html

    This is from 2012, but still relevant - "Two U.S. health and environment organizations sued the federal government on Wednesday for what the groups say is a failure to implement and enforce a new food safety law that could help prevent thousands of deaths caused by food-borne illnesses each year." - http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/30/usa-food-lawsuit-idUSL2E8JTH2220120830

    That was found with a quick search. You saying people don't die from eating sh!tty foods is naive. You can come back and talk about how people can't afford to eat healthy or with whatever excuse you want, but you can't deny the fact that our country is the fattest in the world and pretending it has nothing to do with what we eat as a society is like sticking your head in the sand. Yes it has a lot to do with portion control and lack of activity as well, but food has a big part in it and the majority of people eat anything that comes in a paper bag handed through a drive through window and smells good.

    The 310,000 people dieing of heart disease, diabetes, obesity, hypertension, strokes, and some cancers has a lot more to do with eating too much, not moving enough, and living long enough to develop these problems because we aren't dieing of pathogens, malnutrition, or other diseases.

    And the US isn't even the fattest in the world.

    Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...

    Probably ... Mexico?
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    I think you guys are confused on this whole argument of freedom and stuff that's pretty bad for you, chemical wise. I guess a lot of drugs should be legal to as i'm sure they could be processed and marketed just as well, and a lot of them are also bad for you, and some not so much.

    I like the approach.

    There is a big difference between narcotics and food!
    Actually, I like to take a cup of coffee and inject it direct into my veins.
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...

    Probably ... Mexico?
    Maybe they're eating in the US?
  • PapaverSomniferum
    PapaverSomniferum Posts: 2,670 Member
    I think you guys are confused on this whole argument of freedom and stuff that's pretty bad for you, chemical wise. I guess a lot of drugs should be legal to as i'm sure they could be processed and marketed just as well, and a lot of them are also bad for you, and some not so much.

    I like the approach.

    There is a big difference between narcotics and food!
    Actually, I like to take a cup of coffee and inject it direct into my veins.

    best way to take it, really.

    Though sometimes I'm lazy and just snort ground espresso.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...

    Probably ... Mexico?
    Maybe they're eating in the US?
    So they're not sneaking over the border for jobs. They just want our food!

    I know it's probably totally worth risking one's life and freedom for some Outback steak.
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    Since the theory of evolution completely destroys the logic of paleo-dieting?

    How does the theory of evolution say we have to eat processed foods out of boxes? O_o I'm not sure how that works.
    Agreed

    Also agree...
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...

    Probably ... Mexico?
    Maybe they're eating in the US?
    So they're not sneaking over the border for jobs. They just want our food!

    I know it's probably totally worth risking one's life and freedom for some Outback steak.

    And a bloomin' onion!
  • MUALaurenClark
    MUALaurenClark Posts: 296 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.
  • awise19
    awise19 Posts: 154 Member
    misread this as

    "Paleo-eaters ate Darwin"

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    which would make a good indie album title

    HAHAHAHA. Yes it would.
  • PapaverSomniferum
    PapaverSomniferum Posts: 2,670 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.

    good thing, too, mastodons being extinct and all, and cannibalism being illegal in most countries, including 'Murica.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.

    good thing, too, mastodons being extinct and all, and cannibalism being illegal in most countries, including 'Murica.
    If 'Murica wasn't so nutritionally backwards, we'd be allowed to eat people.
  • MUALaurenClark
    MUALaurenClark Posts: 296 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.

    good thing, too, mastodons being extinct and all, and cannibalism being illegal in most countries, including 'Murica.
    I bet there are probably some parts of the all great and glorious 'Murica where cannibalism is legal.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    But the logic is fashioned around the concept that because cavemen ate that way, we should too. And as someone else pointed out in a very logical post earlier, we really don't know what cavemen ate.

    Why do you need a book, a movement, or anything else to dictate how to not eat processed foods?
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I'm confused as to why you would call it "paleo" if it isn't?
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I'm confused as to why you would call it "paleo" if it isn't?

    It's a marketing tactic. Tell people what they already know they should be eating, throw in some speculation and anecdote, call it something jazzy, and slap a price tag on it.

    Millions of books sold...
  • RoseTears143
    RoseTears143 Posts: 1,121 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    But the logic is fashioned around the concept that because cavemen ate that way, we should too. And as someone else pointed out in a very logical post earlier, we really don't know what cavemen ate.

    Why do you need a book, a movement, or anything else to dictate how to not eat processed foods?

    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..whether it's a keto diet, paleo, clean eating...it doesn't matter how it's worded. Everyone wants to argue about why eating processed foods are fine and act like those that don't want to eat it are committing and act of treason or heresy.

    So what should we call it to please the masses if "Paleo" offends so much?
  • allisonrinkel
    allisonrinkel Posts: 224 Member
    Is this misreported?
  • PapaverSomniferum
    PapaverSomniferum Posts: 2,670 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.

    good thing, too, mastodons being extinct and all, and cannibalism being illegal in most countries, including 'Murica.
    I bet there are probably some parts of the all great and glorious 'Murica where cannibalism is legal.

    It's only really "illegal" if you get caught.

    amirite?
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    But the logic is fashioned around the concept that because cavemen ate that way, we should too. And as someone else pointed out in a very logical post earlier, we really don't know what cavemen ate.

    Why do you need a book, a movement, or anything else to dictate how to not eat processed foods?

    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..whether it's a keto diet, paleo, clean eating...it doesn't matter how it's worded. Everyone wants to argue about why eating processed foods are fine and act like those that don't want to eat it are committing and act of treason or heresy.

    So what should we call it to please the masses if "Paleo" offends so much?
    How about "latest fad or craze"?
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    But the logic is fashioned around the concept that because cavemen ate that way, we should too. And as someone else pointed out in a very logical post earlier, we really don't know what cavemen ate.

    Why do you need a book, a movement, or anything else to dictate how to not eat processed foods?

    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..whether it's a keto diet, paleo, clean eating...it doesn't matter how it's worded. Everyone wants to argue about why eating processed foods are fine and act like those that don't want to eat it are committing and act of treason or heresy.

    So what should we call it to please the masses if "Paleo" offends so much?

    You're missing the point.
  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
    I can't wait for people to shut up about paleo/clean-eating. It's a fad. If you want to live that way, go ahead, just get off your high horse and let me eat my chemicals.
    The ironic thing is that every single thing in this world is made up of chemical compounds, in some shape or form.
  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    Ignore the caveman behind the curtain.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..
    That's because they insist that any other food is poison and will kill us all, no matter what!
  • RoseTears143
    RoseTears143 Posts: 1,121 Member
    really? you're really going to argue that meats, vegetables, nuts and seeds are bad for you??

    if we changed the name from paleo to "does not like to eat processed foods", would that be better? the way of eating literally has nothing to do with cavemen.

    But the logic is fashioned around the concept that because cavemen ate that way, we should too. And as someone else pointed out in a very logical post earlier, we really don't know what cavemen ate.

    Why do you need a book, a movement, or anything else to dictate how to not eat processed foods?

    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..whether it's a keto diet, paleo, clean eating...it doesn't matter how it's worded. Everyone wants to argue about why eating processed foods are fine and act like those that don't want to eat it are committing and act of treason or heresy.

    So what should we call it to please the masses if "Paleo" offends so much?

    You're missing the point.

    If the point is pointed in the direction of people jumping on the bandwagon to eat that way because it is the newest fad in dieting, I got the point. If that wasn't the point, please do explain.

    And to answer the question directly about needing a book or a movement to eat this way, I don't. I do it by choice to feel better..personally.
  • RoseTears143
    RoseTears143 Posts: 1,121 Member
    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..
    That's because they insist that any other food is poison and will kill us all, no matter what!

    no, no they don't.
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    sigh...it's about putting quality foods into your body. DASSIT.

    it's not about trying to eat like we are living 200000 years ago.

    good thing, too, mastodons being extinct and all, and cannibalism being illegal in most countries, including 'Murica.
    I bet there are probably some parts of the all great and glorious 'Murica where cannibalism is legal.

    It's only really "illegal" if you get caught.

    amirite?

    vil2_ecrire.gifNote to self: avoid parts of the US with a high number of missing person cases
  • MUALaurenClark
    MUALaurenClark Posts: 296 Member

    People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..whether it's a keto diet, paleo, clean eating...it doesn't matter how it's worded. Everyone wants to argue about why eating processed foods are fine and act like those that don't want to eat it are committing and act of treason or heresy.

    So what should we call it to please the masses if "Paleo" offends so much?

    exactly... I "eat clean" ...ok? I don't (or rarely) eat processed foods.

    I don't give a *kitten* what cavemen ate. You're right, I can't know for sure.. and again, I don't care...but I do know that bringing it back to the basics, ie, not processed, steroids, chemicals, etc, is what's *best* for my body. So I eat meats, vegetables, nuts, seeds, some fruit, little starch, and no sugar. Call it what you want to call it.