Do Paleo-eaters hate Darwin?

Mexico by 1 percent, I wonder where their eating...

Probably ... Mexico?

Maybe they're eating in the US?

So they're not sneaking over the border for jobs. They just want our food!

I know it's probably totally worth risking one's life and freedom for some Outback steak.

People that stay away from the majority of processed foods get flack no matter what they call it..

That's because they insist that any other food is poison and will kill us all, no matter what!

no, no they don't.

Honestly, I've never met, known, or talked to a person that "eats clean" or follows a Paleo diet that says that. They are just (and I'm generalizing here) aware that they are much better choices to make than eating out of a box.

I'd like to know where all these super crazy insistent "no bad-foods" eaters are that everyone keeps talking about :indifferent:

Since the theory of evolution completely destroys the logic of paleo-dieting?

Well, not really it doesn't. Evolution (and other sciences) suggests that we (humans) have evolved to eat whatever is available. If we can get nutrients (calories) from it and it doesn't kill us before we get to mate, we eat it. Different societies have and still do wildly different diets, from virtually all meat to very high carbohydrate. Jared Diamond, in Guns, Germs and Steel suggests that we have, wherever we find ourselves, been able to sustain ourselves on whatever plants and animals are available locally. Some plants require quite extensive processing before they are suitable for eating though (e.g. masa).

It seems to me that what Paleo does do is cherry-pick a few half-understood ideas from evolution, anthropology and the like and smush them into a half-baked theory of what we should eat nowadays. Basically, they say that cavemen evolved to eat it, and humans have not had time to adapt (evolve) to "modern" agriculture in the past 10,000 years. So, if cavemen didn't eat it nor should we. The ignore of course that we have no idea exactly what cavemen really did eat. They ignore that there was no monolithic caveman cuisine. They ignore that the fruit and veggies available today were not available to cavemen. They ignore evolution, gut microbiota and other science that say other than what they want to hear. Or they say "ignore the caveman behind the curtain!"

So no, they don't hate Darwin. He just gets misused and abused yet again.

Eat what you want. But the Paleo diet is basically based on pseudoscience.

I think you guys are confused on this whole argument of freedom and stuff that's pretty bad for you, chemical wise. I guess a lot of drugs should be legal to as i'm sure they could be processed and marketed just as well, and a lot of them are also bad for you, and some not so much.

I like the approach.

I am convinced that if I live long enough, I will probably die from something. So f*** it, pass the chocolate cake.

First off, like you haven't done the same thing MULTIPLE times in this thread. Secondly, you keep accusing us of doing things that you yourself are guilty of so that is whatever...

But, thirdly, you made this statement:

I completely agree that we have evolved, and some people take the whole "Paleo eating" lifestyle to the extreme for no reason. But some of these processed foods have some scary ingredients in them. Especially in the US, there are foods that are allowed here that are banned in other countries due to the ingredients in them.

Implying that the US government is allowing its citizens to be poisoned. Remember, we had that discussion back on page 3.

There are a couple very vocal Paleo-people at my CrossFit facility. Today, I kid you not, I overheard a discussion about how processed food gives people cancer and a host of other maladies. Just throwing this out there for for all of the Paleo-people who are saying, "Omg, guise, no one ever says that!"

again...it's simply about putting quality foods into the only body I have. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy cake and ice cream every once in a while.

I do that, too. I just call it eating.

Right! I have made some pretty awesome (and from scratch) Italian Cream cakes... with toasted coconut (that I toasted myself)... if that ain't quality right there... I don't know what is. :drinker:


Now I want cake.

Yes.....I'm not a total n00b :laugh: And I have not once seen someone say "I AM PALEO, AND IF YOU EAT [insert list of foods here] YOU WILL DIE AN IMMEDIATE AND HORRIBLE DEATH!!!!!!!" or something else really extreme and crazy that is along those lines.

Everybody is making assumptions of everybody (or maybe I'm just assuming that they are :laugh:). "Clean-eaters" assume that when "clean-eater-haters" say they can eat whatever they want that you mean "I will eat fast-food over anything else," which is more than likely not the case. "Clean-eater-haters" assume that all "clean-eaters" are completely insane for not wanting to eat processed foods, which I honestly don't think that's crazy at all.

Like I said myself in another thread today, and I didn't get any answer (that I've noticed yet), if someone can explain to me how, for example, eating a Big Mac meal with fries and a pop is just as healthy as eating a home-cooked chicken breast with fresh veggies, then myself (as a supporter of "clean eating") and possibly others will stop promoting the various "clean eating" lifestyles.

Yes, moderation, yes, lack of moderation even in "healthy" foods can cause someone to be overweight, but how many overweight people do you know only eat non-processed foods (in the generalized sense of the term)? I don't know any :indifferent: