Toxins

Someone once (who apparently was a personal trainer and tossed herself out there as a nutrition expert) told me sodium ...

Now, obviously, if you have certain medical conditions or seriously overdo it, sodium can be harmful. But it's also a necessary electrolyte that we'd die without.

But pure sodium explodes in water--clearly this is harmful and can only be prevented through cleanses.

Is that why I keep blowing up???

Explains what happens when I have to go to the bathroom.

Me too, but PMS. Because of all the water retention. And doritos (sodium).

Juice cleanse. What is it about this phrase that it causes so many panties to immediately wad?

Actually, it was 'toxins" that wadded my panties.

But we take in toxins every day. Lots of them. The air, our water, our food, all have toxins.

Ok. So, how does a fruit/veggie cleanse help me remove these toxins?

I doubt it would. Though I suppose it could limit the number of toxins you take it buy limiting the variety of sources.

I don't think so many moliculs and things that make a toxin have names that I know of right off the top of my head of more like a type like biotoxins and enviormental toxins.

Edited because I can't spell today.

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I would simplify it for you but I don’t have the time for that much information exchange right now.

This is a pretty good explaintion I just found no way I can explain anything like this and it make since without much time and thinking about it
Pretty please?? I really need to hear about the moliculs & biotoxins.

This is a pretty good explaintion I just found no way I can explain anything like this myself without much time remembering and thinking about it http://www.drs.illinois.edu/bss/factsheets/biotoxins.aspx

Ok, that lists the names of biotoxins, but it does not suggest that we are ingesting those things on a regular basis. It was more of a how-to on handling them in a lab :huh:

As far as I can see, you're right. That link has little to nothing to do with any biotoxins you could flush out with juice. The ones are the list are controlled because they are deadly to humans and have weapons potential.

I'm actually not sure, despite significant graduate work in comparative nutrition and a doctorate in veterinary medicine, which "toxins" exactly you could flush out with juice.

Ok, what toxins can you flush out with a packaged cleanse that I could buy from an MLM or supplements store?

Those are pretty much unregulated snake oil which probably do more harm than good. The best "cleanse" is performed continuously by healthy kidneys and liver.

edited for sense

So people like to give their insides a good cleaning...who cares. Seems like you want to pick a fight.

I was going to post a gif but the internet doesn't even have one crazy enough for this thread....

So people like to give their insides a good cleaning...who cares. Seems like you want to pick a fight.

Well, it's to care about because sometimes these "good cleanings" can get a little carried away. Too few cals. Too much whoosh. Dehydrations can happen as can malnourished bodies as can messing up the balanced way the insides already work. But mostly just the excessive diarrheas. That's the problem sometimes. Is it a cleanse or just a backed up fixer? Like really. I'm not sure I've ever clearly gotten the difference? I'm all for foods that make you whoosh out bad stuff but why claim all kinds of extra things? I'm just generally against extravagant claims of any kind. And calling people's panties wadded. I mean how do you know they aren't wearing the ever popular anti-wad thong? Or even going commando?

I was going to post a gif but the internet doesn't even have one crazy enough for this thread....

Found one for you.

What chemical compounds are building up in our internal organs that we need to cleanse? What is going on in there that our kidneys, liver, and digestive system can't handle?

In my case .. Iron. Iron that I can not cleanse is building up in my organs. If I'm not careful it will damage my liver and pancreas, and give me diabeetus.

Alas, the only therapy is phlebotomy, as there's no cleanse that can help.

So basically, too much iron and we're screwed but there's nothing we can do about it?

Ok, good to know.

But I think iron would be a difficult thing to overdose on. I struggle to keep my iron levels in my diet high enough to meet my needs.

In my case, I have hemochromatosis. It's a genetic defect that makes me absorb up to 5x more iron from food than normal people. Most people can absorb 3-5% of the iron they eat. I can absorb upwards of 20%. Normal serum ferritin levels are 50-200 (If I remember correctly). Mine have been as high as 800. The problem is that the spare iron gets deposited mainly in the liver and pancreas, and too much can shut them down.

The only therapy is to remove a pint of blood once a week, until the levels go down. Needless to say, I try to eat to avoid that.

But once I'm there .. there's not a cleanse in the world that can help.
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My mother-in-law has this condition as well.
My husband and children are at a higher risk. Boo!!

Back to the toxins!!
This "Doctor" has a nicely written article about the dangers or the toxins and only names one, mercury, but didja know we are exposed to 2.5 billions of pounds of toxins each YEAR? ohmygod!

If I was desperate and naive, I'd be detoxing it up! haha
(and yes, I did comment, I'm wondering if it'll be deleted)

http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/19/is-there-toxic-waste-in-your-body-2/#comment-79837

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I was going to post a gif but the internet doesn't even have one crazy enough for this thread....

Found one for you.

Touche!

I don't think so many moliculs and things that make a toxin have names that I know of right off the top of my head of more like a type like biotoxins and enviormental toxins.

Edited because I can't spell today.

I would simplify it for you but I don’t have the time for that much information exchange right now.

It gets simplier?

just make sure you don't stop consuming dihydrogen monoxide! it's a silent killer, and if you stop consuming it you'll die!!!! everyone I know that's dies has consumed dihydrogen monoxide!

If I stop consuming it I'll die, but everyone that consumes it dies. There is no hope. :sad:

What chemical compounds are building up in our internal organs that we need to cleanse? What is going on in there that our kidneys, liver, and digestive system can't handle?

In my case .. Iron. Iron that I can not cleanse is building up in my organs. If I'm not careful it will damage my liver and pancreas, and give me diabeetus.

Alas, the only therapy is phlebotomy, as there's no cleanse that can help.

So basically, too much iron and we're screwed but there's nothing we can do about it?

Ok, good to know.

But I think iron would be a difficult thing to overdose on. I struggle to keep my iron levels in my diet high enough to meet my needs.

In my case, I have hemochromatosis. It's a genetic defect that makes me absorb up to 5x more iron from food than normal people. Most people can absorb 3-5% of the iron they eat. I can absorb upwards of 20%. Normal serum ferritin levels are 50-200 (If I remember correctly). Mine have been as high as 800. The problem is that the spare iron gets deposited mainly in the liver and pancreas, and too much can shut them down.

The only therapy is to remove a pint of blood once a week, until the levels go down. Needless to say, I try to eat to avoid that.

But once I'm there .. there's not a cleanse in the world that can help.

My mother-in-law has this condition as well.
My husband and children are at a higher risk. Boo!!

Back to the toxins!!
This "Doctor" has a nicely written article about the dangers or the toxins and only names one, mercury, but didja know we are exposed to 2.5 billions of pounds of toxins each YEAR? ohmygod!

If I was desperate and naive, I'd be detoxing it up! haha
(and yes, I did comment, I'm wondering if it'll be deleted)

http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/19/is-there-toxic-waste-in-your-body-2/#comment-79837

Maybe if I buy his cookbook, I can learn more about all the other toxins.....

oh yeah that's my other why should we care point. its often obscure knowledge that must be paid for and is not readily available neither in the schools we grew up in which if it were a real thing to be fearful of they might have told us about, but not even in this "information age" of computers and whatnot is that information available in a clear format and for free. which makes it suspect.

So people like to give their insides a good cleaning...who cares. Seems like you want to pick a fight.

Because they should use a bottle brush like a normal person.