**Controversial** Eating 1,200 Calories or Less
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well I'm just under 5 foot and MFP told me 1200 a day .If it's such a problem why are they doing it !!!!!!
NET, NET, NET, NET...this is a far cry different than 1200 gross. Also, being under 5 foot tall makes you a statistical outlier...the average female who is even remotely active needs more than 1200 calories...and again...it's NET...meaning you add back exercise calories.
MFP told you 1200 because you probably chose sedentary and want to lose 2lbs a week when you set up your account? If you were active, it would give you more calories to eat.
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- Because people don't know how to use MFP and don't understand that its 1200 NET calories...a far cry different than 1200 gross calories.
- Because people take the most aggressive approach whether they have 5 Lbs to lose or 200 lbs to lose and don't know the difference.
- Because there are an *kitten* load of young girls on this site who don't even need to lose weight who are netting well below 1000 calories...this is called an eating disorder.
- Because some of us actually care as much or more about actual NUTRITION than just losing a few Lbs...it is next to impossible to actually meet your body's requisite fat, protein, and vitamin and mineral needs when you're eating 1200 calories and exercising 800 of those off.
- Because some of us understand that when you do this for a prolonged period of time you destroy LBM which is very difficult to get back
- Because some of us have been around the block a few times and have been here awhile...and we get to see posts of 1200 calorie "success stories" turning into, "why is my hair falling out" and "why don't I have a period anymore" posts.
I could give you more but you don't really care anyway so why bother...enjoy your awesome and amazing "journey"
But why the anger and hostility??? Ever heard the saying that you catch more flies with honey???0 -
- Because people don't know how to use MFP and don't understand that its 1200 NET calories...a far cry different than 1200 gross calories.
- Because people take the most aggressive approach whether they have 5 Lbs to lose or 200 lbs to lose and don't know the difference.
- Because there are an *kitten* load of young girls on this site who don't even need to lose weight who are netting well below 1000 calories...this is called an eating disorder.
- Because some of us actually care as much or more about actual NUTRITION than just losing a few Lbs...it is next to impossible to actually meet your body's requisite fat, protein, and vitamin and mineral needs when you're eating 1200 calories and exercising 800 of those off.
- Because some of us understand that when you do this for a prolonged period of time you destroy LBM which is very difficult to get back
- Because some of us have been around the block a few times and have been here awhile...and we get to see posts of 1200 calorie "success stories" turning into, "why is my hair falling out" and "why don't I have a period anymore" posts.
I could give you more but you don't really care anyway so why bother...enjoy your awesome and amazing "journey"
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Being under the supervision of a doctor on a prescribed diet is a lot different than some 19 year old girl with about 2 lbs of fat on her eating 500 calories per day. Get real...
But we are not talking about 500 calories. We are talking about 1200.....why always jump to extremes ?
Because if you gross 1200 calories and you do, say about 1 hour of exercise, you're going to be right around 500-800 calories net....which is in no way healthy...which is why I keep saying NET calories.
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- Because people don't know how to use MFP and don't understand that its 1200 NET calories...a far cry different than 1200 gross calories.
- Because people take the most aggressive approach whether they have 5 Lbs to lose or 200 lbs to lose and don't know the difference.
- Because there are an *kitten* load of young girls on this site who don't even need to lose weight who are netting well below 1000 calories...this is called an eating disorder.
- Because some of us actually care as much or more about actual NUTRITION than just losing a few Lbs...it is next to impossible to actually meet your body's requisite fat, protein, and vitamin and mineral needs when you're eating 1200 calories and exercising 800 of those off.
- Because some of us understand that when you do this for a prolonged period of time you destroy LBM which is very difficult to get back
- Because some of us have been around the block a few times and have been here awhile...and we get to see posts of 1200 calorie "success stories" turning into, "why is my hair falling out" and "why don't I have a period anymore" posts.
I could give you more but you don't really care anyway so why bother...enjoy your awesome and amazing "journey"
But why the anger and hostility??? Ever heard the saying that you catch more flies with honey???
You catch no flies either way...I've been at this over a year and unfortunately, I do care...otherwise I'd just say **** it and move on. Nobody listens until bad **** happens...that's MFP0 -
well I'm just under 5 foot and MFP told me 1200 a day .If it's such a problem why are they doing it !!!!!!
What did you set as your weekly weight loss goal?0 -
I think people & society in general are focusing too much emphasis on just the numbers more than reality. We can perfectly survive & function on a low calorie diet. 200 years ago people didnt worry about calories, they got up in the morning and went about their day, they were much more physically active than we are today, and were overall much more slender than the average person today. They didnt have to jog, eat salads all the time in order to lose weight, or be haunted by that bag of potato chips thats hiding in the pantry. They were already slender because of a much more active lifestyle. Back then if there were any fat people, it was the rich or wealthy... Today is all backwards where a head of lettuce costs more than a .99 cent double cheeseburger.
The best thing is to focus on a healthy lifestyle, such as eating food, real food that is low in calories yet very healthy, such as fruit and vegetables and lean meats and just becoming more active. The result is weight that that you can live with and maintain for a very long time... Stop worrying about the numbers and eat sensibly folks....0 -
Because if you gross 1200 calories and you do, say about 1 hour of exercise, you're going to be right around 500-800 calories net....which is in no way healthy...which is why I keep saying NET calories.
I do an hour of weightlifting 3x/week. Resistance training burns significantly less than cardio... hardly anything, really. For those of us who prefer resistance training, are very short females, have sedentary jobs, and only have a little bit to lose, 1200 isn't that extreme. I eat 1300(TDEE-20%), but my weight loss is less than a pound a week that way. It's not going to be right for the vast majority of MFP members, but when I see folks say they won't accept friend requests from people who eat less than X calories or whatever, it's kinda discouraging.0 -
Ok i am new to all of this, MFP to says to eat 1200 calories a day. But now that i am exercising i always eat back those calories that i burned off is that correct????? Help0
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The best thing is to focus on a healthy lifestyle, such as eating food, real food that is low in calories yet very healthy, such as fruit and vegetables and lean meats and just becoming more active. The result is weight that that you can live with and maintain for a very long time... Stop worrying about the numbers and eat sensibly folks....
To be fair - learning and "worrying" about "the numbers" changed my life. No snark either, being completely honest.0 -
Ok i am new to all of this, MFP to says to eat 1200 calories a day. But now that i am exercising i always eat back those calories that i burned off is that correct????? Help
Yes that is the idea of MFP, the only pitfall that I can think of is that MFP sometimes overestimates calorie burns (some are about 30% higher than my HRM)0 -
Ok i am new to all of this, MFP to says to eat 1200 calories a day. But now that i am exercising i always eat back those calories that i burned off is that correct????? Help
YES!! but unless you know for sure how many calories you burned, a safe bet is to eat back 50 - 75% 0 -
Ok i am new to all of this, MFP to says to eat 1200 calories a day. But now that i am exercising i always eat back those calories that i burned off is that correct????? Help
Yes...that is what is meant by NET calories. Just make sure you're making some allowance for estimation error. Overestimating calorie burn is easy to do. I used to take about 80% of what my HRM told me for an aerobic event. Databases can be very, very unreliable for calorie burn.
You are doing it correctly though.0 -
People lead fairly insignificant and dissatisfying lives where their opinions are not taken to heart by their immediate peers. When their brave, confident internet personas are challenged with the same apathetic responses they receive in person it causes an immediate defensive reaction where they will literally get agitated by someone not taking their advice that they feel must be listened to because of underlying egotistical short comings.
The people who don't care one way or another, or post their two cents without having to point out why and how they are accurate and no-one else is ("I'm a doctor," "I know someone who..", "I read a study....") likely do not suffer from this!
That's how they come off to me, anyway. Hence explosive topics when something mildly controversial comes up. It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.0 -
Some were telling me the same thing...I listened and guess what I got fatter ;( ...So I customized my own to eating 1000 calories for the most part I stay under my caloric count, so within the last 10days I went from 228 to 219.0
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I think people & society in general are focusing too much emphasis on just the numbers more than reality. We can perfectly survive & function on a low calorie diet. 200 years ago people didnt worry about calories, they got up in the morning and went about their day, they were much more physically active than we are today, and were overall much more slender than the average person today. They didnt have to jog, eat salads all the time in order to lose weight, or be haunted by that bag of potato chips thats hiding in the pantry. They were already slender because of a much more active lifestyle. Back then if there were any fat people, it was the rich or wealthy... Today is all backwards where a head of lettuce costs more than a .99 cent double cheeseburger.
The best thing is to focus on a healthy lifestyle, such as eating food, real food that is low in calories yet very healthy, such as fruit and vegetables and lean meats and just becoming more active. The result is weight that that you can live with and maintain for a very long time... Stop worrying about the numbers and eat sensibly folks....
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People lead fairly insignificant and dissatisfying lives where their opinions are not taken to heart by their immediate peers.
Do dah. Do dah.0 -
Quote fail] ]It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.]]
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.0 -
It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.
Then obviously you fall into the category of people who don't care and don't suffer from any of the above, right?
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There are plenty of answers already posted. For me, I don't give a f**k how many calories you eat. I'm not the Food Police.0 -
I'm under 120 pounds, have an office job, and my maintenance calories are only about 1600 if I can't work out. 1200 is, frankly, on the high side if I want to lose anything, even a slow loss. I don't care what people say because I've seen it on my own body and I know what works for me. Great if you're a 110 pound lady who hits the gym an hour a day and can pound 2000 calories a day, but that's not my life and I can't eat like it is.0
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I eat 2086/day
exercise 30-45 min/day
5-6 times/wk
lose average 5 lbs/mo
Yum Yum!!!
1200 calories I would pass the hell out!!!!:sick:0 -
I'm always amused that no one seems to be THAT bothered by a 20 year old 6'4" bloke well muscled bloke eating 1400 calories, say.
But you get a 50 year old 4'11" woman eating 1100 calories and "OMG she's gonna die!"
Similarly, I'm sure plenty eating 2k, hell 4k+ don't get decent micronutrient levels, while some eating 900 probably do much better.
Most of the 'reasons' seem to be accounting for situations that may not be at all relevant to the person in question.
Quite like, as mentioned above, the bible, as it goes.0 -
It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.
Then obviously you fall into the category of people who don't care and don't suffer from any of the above, right?
yeeesh, I'm secretly jealous I dont has the willpower to put down my hummus and wheat thins or cookie to lose just one more ounce quicker.0 -
It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.
Then obviously you fall into the category of people who don't care and don't suffer from any of the above, right?
yeeesh, I'm secretly jealous I dont has the willpower to put down my hummus and wheat thins or cookie to lose just one more ounce quicker.
lol, no one was saying you were jealous honey.0 -
- Because people don't know how to use MFP and don't understand that its 1200 NET calories...a far cry different than 1200 gross calories.
- Because people take the most aggressive approach whether they have 5 Lbs to lose or 200 lbs to lose and don't know the difference.
- Because there are an *kitten* load of young girls on this site who don't even need to lose weight who are netting well below 1000 calories...this is called an eating disorder.
- Because some of us actually care as much or more about actual NUTRITION than just losing a few Lbs...it is next to impossible to actually meet your body's requisite fat, protein, and vitamin and mineral needs when you're eating 1200 calories and exercising 800 of those off.
- Because some of us understand that when you do this for a prolonged period of time you destroy LBM which is very difficult to get back
- Because some of us have been around the block a few times and have been here awhile...and we get to see posts of 1200 calorie "success stories" turning into, "why is my hair falling out" and "why don't I have a period anymore" posts.
I could give you more but you don't really care anyway so why bother...enjoy your awesome and amazing "journey"
This X 1,000,000.
Also consider that there are a lot of us who have "been there, done that" (for 20 years!) and we are trying to save other people unnecessary struggles that do NOT work for the long term and do not promote ideal health. But nah, we are just being "mean" and "judgmental" and "unsupportive" .0 -
It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.
Then obviously you fall into the category of people who don't care and don't suffer from any of the above, right?
yeeesh, I'm secretly jealous I dont has the willpower to put down my hummus and wheat thins or cookie to lose just one more ounce quicker.
lol, no one was saying you were jealous honey.
Maybe it's subconscious?!
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It could also be a vague, discontent, subconscious jealously when people become literally angry at someone who eats 1,200 calories or less because they lack the will power to do so. Who knows.
lolz. I'm losing 1.5 lbs a week eating 1550. I don't give two sh*ts if you want to starve yourself to get to the same place I'm getting (not you specifically but others). So I would sign they off in bogus crap. There are plenty of successful people who try to steer others towards properly fueling the body but you know the whole talking to a wall sentiment.
Then obviously you fall into the category of people who don't care and don't suffer from any of the above, right?
yeeesh, I'm secretly jealous I dont has the willpower to put down my hummus and wheat thins or cookie to lose just one more ounce quicker.
lol, no one was saying you were jealous honey.
Maybe it's subconscious?!
I think the subconscious ones are the ones who get really really mad but don't apply to the above theory! You know, the whole, "Holy F YOU IDIOT YOU WILL DIE" type of responses (less dramatic though, thankfully)0
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