What supplements do you or did you take?

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  • Amadbro
    Amadbro Posts: 750 Member
    Bulk Powders
    PWO
    Agmatine @3g
    Citrulline Malate @6g
    DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) @ 3.5g
    Erase Pro @ 3 caps per day

    Xtend BCAA
    Controlled Labs Oximega fish oil
    Controlled Labs Orange Triad Multivitamin
    All-Max Creapure Creatine
    Muscletech Whey protein

    Identical stack when I cut just maybe add some Dexaprine

    meh Im not the craziest about thermogenics the Citrulline Malate Ive personally never had. Interesting stack does it give you the endurance you're after? How do you feel without it? Your PWO I am referring to the rest is pretty identical to most


    I don't use any thermos. There isn't a single thermo in my stack..
    The agmatine and Cit Mal are the key ingredients in Hemovol. They promote vascularity/increased pumps. You buy them in bulk and save alot of $ by not having to buy Hemovol and get even better benefits because you can jack up dosage depending on your needs.
    The DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) I also get in bulk has been proven to raise T levels by quite alot, stacked with Erase, keeps estrogen and estrogen related sides at bey. I cycle the DAA/Erase and this will be my 2nd cycle. Had amazing results with bloodwork showing a 75% increase in free testosterone after my last cycle.

    was only referring to the Dex

    Dexaprine XR is something I tried at the end of my cut..it gave me AMAZING concentration and focus. Dosage is only 1 capsule but it's recommended to take 1/2 a cap due to its potency and let me tell you IT IS POTENT. It's actually banned in some countries.
  • Amadbro
    Amadbro Posts: 750 Member
    Bulk Powders
    PWO
    Agmatine @3g
    Citrulline Malate @6g
    DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) @ 3.5g
    Erase Pro @ 3 caps per day

    Xtend BCAA
    Controlled Labs Oximega fish oil
    Controlled Labs Orange Triad Multivitamin
    All-Max Creapure Creatine
    Muscletech Whey protein

    Identical stack when I cut just maybe add some Dexaprine

    meh Im not the craziest about thermogenics the Citrulline Malate Ive personally never had. Interesting stack does it give you the endurance you're after? How do you feel without it? Your PWO I am referring to the rest is pretty identical to most


    I don't use any thermos. There isn't a single thermo in my stack..
    The agmatine and Cit Mal are the key ingredients in Hemovol. They promote vascularity/increased pumps. You buy them in bulk and save alot of $ by not having to buy Hemovol and get even better benefits because you can jack up dosage depending on your needs.
    The DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) I also get in bulk has been proven to raise T levels by quite alot, stacked with Erase, keeps estrogen and estrogen related sides at bey. I cycle the DAA/Erase and this will be my 2nd cycle. Had amazing results with bloodwork showing a 75% increase in free testosterone after my last cycle.

    was only referring to the Dex

    hmmm where do you get them in bulk? Most people I know usually just take the hemo and call it a day, its interesting to find others that break it up

    Amazon my friend
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006M0HMB2/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E88BON2/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    You can save $ and get even better benefits because you can control the dosage. Just make sure to have a scale..
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
    1.) Protein powder
    2.) Fish oil
    3.) Multi-vitamin

    The rest of the time I'm eating healthy, lots of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, lean meat, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Works good for me.

    mmm if you are hitting your goals of protein in the lean meats+nuts+yogurt/cheese department, then the protein powder isn't necessary that could save ya a few bucks

    Except whey is a fast digesting protein which is what you want pwo to take advantage of that anabolic window and the bodies increased sensitivity to insulin.

    and so is fish. I have personally never really been too afraid of an anabolic window and I have seen gains outside of it. As a matter of fact I usually don't get in any protein untill about 3 hours after my workouts and I am still getting the muscle gains I was after. I use to be terrified of not getting in a protein shake of some sort right after my workout but when I stopped I didn't notice a change at all and was still getting gains in the gym. But of course to each his own :)

    Meal timing is irrelevant..I'm just referring to what is OPTIMUM...tons of studies have been done citing the benefits of whey post workout due to its increased absorption rate.

    Here's one for example

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm
    "The faster the protein and carbohydrates get to the muscle, the better your chances for muscle building and recovery. Current research has demonstrated that subjects receiving nutrients within one hour after exercise recover more quickly than subjects receiving nutrients three hours after exercise. Liquid nutrition is making more sense, isn't it?"

    References at the bottom

    See thats the thing for every article there is usually an article to dispute it. I am not saying whey protein is unnecessary, I take it too and yes it has a nearly 100% absorption rate, what I am saying is for that person's particular diet he can offset the need for it cause his diet is really good. Article below
    http://www.protraineronline.com/nutrition/protein-supplements-vs-protein-foods/

    snippet:
    Most bodybuilders and strength athletes already consume more than enough protein, so the importance of BV to these athletes who are already consuming enough protein has been overplayed. Even though whey has a higher BV than chicken breast, fish, or milk protein, if the total quantity of protein you consume is sufficient, then it is not likely that substituting whey for food proteins will result in any additional muscle.
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
    oh and we are in agreement there whey is freaking delicious and highly versatile
  • Amadbro
    Amadbro Posts: 750 Member
    1.) Protein powder
    2.) Fish oil
    3.) Multi-vitamin

    The rest of the time I'm eating healthy, lots of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, lean meat, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Works good for me.

    mmm if you are hitting your goals of protein in the lean meats+nuts+yogurt/cheese department, then the protein powder isn't necessary that could save ya a few bucks

    Except whey is a fast digesting protein which is what you want pwo to take advantage of that anabolic window and the bodies increased sensitivity to insulin.

    and so is fish. I have personally never really been too afraid of an anabolic window and I have seen gains outside of it. As a matter of fact I usually don't get in any protein untill about 3 hours after my workouts and I am still getting the muscle gains I was after. I use to be terrified of not getting in a protein shake of some sort right after my workout but when I stopped I didn't notice a change at all and was still getting gains in the gym. But of course to each his own :)

    Meal timing is irrelevant..I'm just referring to what is OPTIMUM...tons of studies have been done citing the benefits of whey post workout due to its increased absorption rate.

    Here's one for example

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm
    "The faster the protein and carbohydrates get to the muscle, the better your chances for muscle building and recovery. Current research has demonstrated that subjects receiving nutrients within one hour after exercise recover more quickly than subjects receiving nutrients three hours after exercise. Liquid nutrition is making more sense, isn't it?"

    References at the bottom

    See thats the thing for every article there is usually an article to dispute it. I am not saying whey protein is unnecessary, I take it too and yes it has a nearly 100% absorption rate, what I am saying is for that person's particular diet he can offset the need for it cause his diet is really good. Article below
    http://www.protraineronline.com/nutrition/protein-supplements-vs-protein-foods/

    snippet:
    Most bodybuilders and strength athletes already consume more than enough protein, so the importance of BV to these athletes who are already consuming enough protein has been overplayed. Even though whey has a higher BV than chicken breast, fish, or milk protein, if the total quantity of protein you consume is sufficient, then it is not likely that substituting whey for food proteins will result in any additional muscle.

    You're right I'm just viewing it from a nutrient timing perspective (If you believe in it)..but you should avoid drinking your calories when you can. Did you see the amazon link I posted? Pretty cool huh? Poor people like me have to save that$
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
    - Multi.
    - Magnesium for nerve pain.
    - Calcium chews -- because they're like candy ;)
    - B complex -- an experiment to see if they gave me more energy. They don't seem to. I'll probably be dropping them.
    - C -- recommended by my dermatologist for collagen production to help skin recover during weight loss. It's cheap and can't hurt.
    - Probiotics.
    - Garlic for high blood pressure -- seems to help.
    - Omega 3 when I remember to buy it.

    ya know I found some multivitamin chews at GNC that are freaking delicious. To be honest its the only reason I am able to take multivitamins everyday ^_^

    http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=15319136
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
    1.) Protein powder
    2.) Fish oil
    3.) Multi-vitamin

    The rest of the time I'm eating healthy, lots of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, lean meat, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Works good for me.

    mmm if you are hitting your goals of protein in the lean meats+nuts+yogurt/cheese department, then the protein powder isn't necessary that could save ya a few bucks

    Except whey is a fast digesting protein which is what you want pwo to take advantage of that anabolic window and the bodies increased sensitivity to insulin.

    and so is fish. I have personally never really been too afraid of an anabolic window and I have seen gains outside of it. As a matter of fact I usually don't get in any protein untill about 3 hours after my workouts and I am still getting the muscle gains I was after. I use to be terrified of not getting in a protein shake of some sort right after my workout but when I stopped I didn't notice a change at all and was still getting gains in the gym. But of course to each his own :)

    Meal timing is irrelevant..I'm just referring to what is OPTIMUM...tons of studies have been done citing the benefits of whey post workout due to its increased absorption rate.

    Here's one for example

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm
    "The faster the protein and carbohydrates get to the muscle, the better your chances for muscle building and recovery. Current research has demonstrated that subjects receiving nutrients within one hour after exercise recover more quickly than subjects receiving nutrients three hours after exercise. Liquid nutrition is making more sense, isn't it?"

    References at the bottom

    See thats the thing for every article there is usually an article to dispute it. I am not saying whey protein is unnecessary, I take it too and yes it has a nearly 100% absorption rate, what I am saying is for that person's particular diet he can offset the need for it cause his diet is really good. Article below
    http://www.protraineronline.com/nutrition/protein-supplements-vs-protein-foods/

    snippet:
    Most bodybuilders and strength athletes already consume more than enough protein, so the importance of BV to these athletes who are already consuming enough protein has been overplayed. Even though whey has a higher BV than chicken breast, fish, or milk protein, if the total quantity of protein you consume is sufficient, then it is not likely that substituting whey for food proteins will result in any additional muscle.

    You're right I'm just viewing it from a nutrient timing perspective (If you believe in it)..but you should avoid drinking your calories when you can. Did you see the amazon link I posted? Pretty cool huh? Poor people like me have to save that$

    of course I saw it 0.0

    that is freaking sick how on earth did you find that?
  • Amadbro
    Amadbro Posts: 750 Member
    Just researched..amazon has everything
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
    thats awesome bro, thanks for the info
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    1.) Protein powder
    2.) Fish oil
    3.) Multi-vitamin

    The rest of the time I'm eating healthy, lots of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, lean meat, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Works good for me.

    mmm if you are hitting your goals of protein in the lean meats+nuts+yogurt/cheese department, then the protein powder isn't necessary that could save ya a few bucks

    Definitely a valid point. I'm on a 20% deficit though right now to drop some weight so I find the protein powder is helpful to keep the protein intake up without a lot of extra calories as well as convenience. Once I get back up to maintenance I think I probably will eliminate the powder from my diet and just stick to whole foods.
  • hankela
    hankela Posts: 12 Member
    tag
  • HerbertNenenger
    HerbertNenenger Posts: 453 Member
    Wow, there are some major weight loss pros here. I have a scoop of Amazimg Grass every morning because I have read a lot about manmade/fake vitamins that do ,ore harm than good the ones that litter every supermarket and drugstore shelf in the U.S....it"s actually extrememly hard to find supplements that are food and plant based that our bodies can actually process. Plus, I believe whe you have a bery balanced diet and eat healthfully you"re not going to need a lot of supplements.
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    1.) Protein powder
    2.) Fish oil
    3.) Multi-vitamin

    The rest of the time I'm eating healthy, lots of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, lean meat, nuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. Works good for me.

    mmm if you are hitting your goals of protein in the lean meats+nuts+yogurt/cheese department, then the protein powder isn't necessary that could save ya a few bucks

    Except whey is a fast digesting protein which is what you want pwo to take advantage of that anabolic window and the bodies increased sensitivity to insulin.

    and so is fish. I have personally never really been too afraid of an anabolic window and I have seen gains outside of it. As a matter of fact I usually don't get in any protein untill about 3 hours after my workouts and I am still getting the muscle gains I was after. I use to be terrified of not getting in a protein shake of some sort right after my workout but when I stopped I didn't notice a change at all and was still getting gains in the gym. But of course to each his own :)

    Meal timing is irrelevant..I'm just referring to what is OPTIMUM...tons of studies have been done citing the benefits of whey post workout due to its increased absorption rate.

    Here's one for example

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi4.htm
    "The faster the protein and carbohydrates get to the muscle, the better your chances for muscle building and recovery. Current research has demonstrated that subjects receiving nutrients within one hour after exercise recover more quickly than subjects receiving nutrients three hours after exercise. Liquid nutrition is making more sense, isn't it?"

    References at the bottom

    See thats the thing for every article there is usually an article to dispute it. I am not saying whey protein is unnecessary, I take it too and yes it has a nearly 100% absorption rate, what I am saying is for that person's particular diet he can offset the need for it cause his diet is really good. Article below
    http://www.protraineronline.com/nutrition/protein-supplements-vs-protein-foods/

    snippet:
    Most bodybuilders and strength athletes already consume more than enough protein, so the importance of BV to these athletes who are already consuming enough protein has been overplayed. Even though whey has a higher BV than chicken breast, fish, or milk protein, if the total quantity of protein you consume is sufficient, then it is not likely that substituting whey for food proteins will result in any additional muscle.

    I agree, I think you can get similar results by just eating whole foods for protein sources, but the whey protein powder is just so convenient and relatively cheap for what you get per serving. I make my own protein bars that have about 250 calories and 35g of protein to bring to work to snack on between lunch and dinner. Its just very convenient.

    There is so much information out there its overwhelming. I've had good results with just eating a relatively healthy diet with a higher protein intake and eating a deficit to continue fat loss. It's a slow process but gets steady results.

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