Clean calories VS unclean

May I get some simple to the point answers and if you got some negative crap to say then go be retarded someplace else.

With that said...can someone tell me if someone ate only raw veggie and fruits compared to same amount of calories in processed food how does the weight loss compare.

Okay now compare juiced veggies and fruits to processed food as in weight loss.
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  • 4homer
    4homer Posts: 457 Member
    Weight loss would end up being the same. Initially with a diet composed of fruits and veggies most people notice a large amount of weight loss in the first couple of weeks but it will slow and then the loss would be be become the same. Juicing would make no difference.
  • Commander_Keen
    Commander_Keen Posts: 1,179 Member
    Your not going to get the answer you are looking for
    You will always get people who lost weight by either eating clean and by eating dirty.
    The difference will be their intensity of their work out.
  • RunBrew
    RunBrew Posts: 220 Member
    With that said...can someone tell me if someone ate only raw veggie and fruits compared to same amount of calories in processed food how does the weight loss compare.
    Weight loss is a math equation: if calories in is less than calories burned, your body burns stored fat to make up the deficit. you lose weight. It matters very little where they come from, carrots and green beans, or bacon cheeseburger.

    If you ate mostly vegetables and fruit, you still get calories, they're just mostly all carbs, and precious little protein.
    You need some meat, or at least beans and legumes.
    Okay now compare juiced veggies and fruits to processed food as in weight loss.

    Same story. calories are calories. Both are probably very deficient in any fiber content.

    People are proponents of 'eating clean' almost entirely because:
    1) Raw foods are often not as calorie dense, so 500 calories takes up more room in your stomach than processed foods, making you feel fuller.
    2) processed foods have additives that *may or may not* be good for your health in the long run. Processed foods haven't been around long enough for there to be a large amout of definitive research either way.

    Edit: I ate 'dirty' every day while losing weight, and still do. I drink beer, and love cheeseburgers, bacon and chocolate. I just made sure that when my body needed 2000 calories a day, I only ate 1750. I had no trouble losing 1 lb/week.
  • DiaryofaMadFatMan
    DiaryofaMadFatMan Posts: 131 Member
    Clean or unclean. Food is food. It's not a big deal what you eat as long as you have a deficit. I've been eating everything I want, within moderate of course, as you can tell from my ticker...it's working.
  • 4homer
    4homer Posts: 457 Member
    Clean or unclean. Food is food. It's not a big deal what you eat as long as you have a deficit. I've been eating everything I want, within moderate of course, as you can tell from my ticker...it's working.
    ^^also a good answer
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    There is a difference between weight loss and fat loss.

    For weight loss, all that is required is a calorie deficit. It had no bearing on health or anything else. It also does not differentiate between fat loss and weight loss (which includes muscle mass).
    "clean eating" vs processed food makes no difference for weight loss.

    Fat loss - still not dependant on clean vs processed but macros come into play a lot more.

    ETA - veggies and fruit have their place in a healthy diet, however, eating only those does not equate healthy.
  • AlongCame_Molly
    AlongCame_Molly Posts: 2,835 Member
    The weight loss will be the same, because....wait for it.......

    A calorie is a calorie.

    Some food will fill youu p better/keep you full longer, but if you ate a 1500 calorie diet of pizza and wings versus a 1500 calorie diet of chicken breast and broccoli, the weight loss would be the same.

    Obviously it would be stupid to try eating nothing but pizza and wings because you'd be starving and would probably feel like crap, but in terms of JUST weight loss, as long as you're eating a deficit it really, truthfully, and honestly does not matter what type of food you eat.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    May I get some simple to the point answers and if you got some negative crap to say then go be retarded someplace else.

    With that said...can someone tell me if someone ate only raw veggie and fruits compared to same amount of calories in processed food how does the weight loss compare.

    Okay now compare juiced veggies and fruits to processed food as in weight loss.

    Oh my.

    Pro-tip, OP: if you are wanting a serious discussion, you probably should not begin it with such a caustic remark. Previous posters were being kind in answering your question.

    I'm just going to say negative crap, well, just because. So, here goes: -crap
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    She's on a low calorie juice fast - she is not going to like any of your answers. :noway:
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    With that said...can someone tell me if someone ate only raw veggie and fruits compared to same amount of calories in processed food how does the weight loss compare.

    No difference.
    Okay now compare juiced veggies and fruits to processed food as in weight loss.

    No difference.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    Nevermind.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    She's on a low calorie juice fast - she is not going to like any of your answers. :noway:

    Whoa, I just looked at the diary. Under 20 grams of protein? For real?

    Just, wow.

    -crap
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    She's on a low calorie juice fast - she is not going to like any of your answers. :noway:

    I knew there would be a idiot abroad to the question.

    Well aren't you a delight.

    I'm guesing this is what happens when you only have around 1000 cals a day - all of juice. :noway:

    But - am I right - do you agree with the answers given?
  • Kevalicious99
    Kevalicious99 Posts: 1,131 Member
    She's on a low calorie juice fast - she is not going to like any of your answers. :noway:

    I looked at her diary .. poor girl. Juicing is not a good answer. Sure there are some internet sites that swear by it .. and documentaries that push this idea. But really ... it is hardly a good idea.

    Just cause some rich Australian guy did it and is making a ton of money from it now, doesn't make it a good idea.

    OP I hope you abandon this .. and start to eat real food sometime soon.
  • mamadon
    mamadon Posts: 1,422 Member
    Not sure what you are looking for here. You asked for simple to the point answers and you are getting them. Almost everyone is saying the exact same thing. A calorie is a calorie.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I'm sorry, but go be what somewhere else???
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    I'm sorry, but go be what somewhere else???
    ^this.
    :angry:
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    You received some good answers. Now that we have that out of the way, why aren't you eating? Your calorie intake is extremely low. You can lose weight without starving yourself.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I knew there would be a idiot abroad to the question.

    Oh dear.
  • Hauntinglyfit
    Hauntinglyfit Posts: 5,537 Member
    OP, you so nice. Please carry on with the juice fast, you're on the right path! :flowerforyou:
  • VelvetMorning
    VelvetMorning Posts: 398 Member
    I find that clean calories tend to be much more filling than unclean.
  • RonnieLodge
    RonnieLodge Posts: 665 Member
    With that said...can someone tell me if someone ate only raw veggie and fruits compared to same amount of calories in processed food how does the weight loss compare.

    No difference.
    Okay now compare juiced veggies and fruits to processed food as in weight loss.

    No difference.

    Agreed.

    But the difference will lie in how someone would FEEL doing either:

    1) eating at only raw fruit/veg and/or juice fast

    2) eating an array of things - say, fruit, veg & some processed - but not the highly processed - food.

    The difference would be:

    1) - someone will no doubt feel pretty rubbish, deprived, be experiencing sugar highs and crashes (especially with the fruit juice), irritable, hungry, anxious, hangry (that is hungry/angry)

    2) - someone would feel much more satisfied, energetic and.......sane.
  • Wildflower0106
    Wildflower0106 Posts: 247 Member
    A calorie is a calorie, even if you choose not to believe it... There would be no difference in weightloss if the deficit is the same. That is about as to the point as I can get.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    I find that clean calories tend to be much more filling than unclean.

    That would entirely depend on what meals you are comparing and what you consider clean. For breakfast - a sausage and egg McMuffin keeps me fuller than most other breakfast, including steel cut oats (clean depending on which version of clean you subscribe to)
    But my favourite restaurant's free range chicken with guacamole and spinach salad also fills me up better than a noodle bowl.
  • TX_Rhon
    TX_Rhon Posts: 1,549 Member

    Great post for reference. @ironfeline - I don't think you are an idiot :flowerforyou:
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    Wow OP! Great way to gain friends! Being rude to the people you are asking for help AND doing something as stupid as a VLCD with all juice.

    This site is for HEALTHY weight loss, not people who starve themselves and believe in juice fasts.
  • pattijean60
    pattijean60 Posts: 1 Member
    based on your food diary and times that you.mention stop intake at 2:30 your juicing will come to a quick stall soon. you are taking in less than 1200 calories a day and your body will soon go into starvation mode. I recommend you read choose to lose by Chris Powell. it will show you how you need protein and you are not getting any.
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    Bump for reference
  • Mother_Superior
    Mother_Superior Posts: 1,624 Member
    It may, or may not be effective, but from everything I've see on here juicing sure does seem to make people pleasant, and happy.

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